angelman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 PS - I've had to turn talkSport off. "It's imperative that we sign vD" blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Coutinho has told Klopp he will not play for liverpool again even if it costs him his world cup place .....reported in Mirror today . So basically he is on strike ........Karma is wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Coutinho has told Klopp he will not play for liverpool again even if it costs him his world cup place .....reported in Mirror today . So basically he is on strike ........Karma is wonderful I'd usually find this a little sad but to be honest, me and my boy find this quite amusing if true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Coutinho has told Klopp he will not play for liverpool again even if it costs him his world cup place .....reported in Mirror today . Virgil will read that and a light-bulb will appear above his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Virgil will read that and a light-bulb will appear above his head. The lightbulb only cums on when he's finished noshing Klopp off and it's time for bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 The lightbulb only cums on when he's finished noshing Klopp off and it's time for bed. Going on strike is basically the final straw that players like Coutinho & VvD have to force a move, so it wouldn't surprise me if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Coutinho has told Klopp he will not play for liverpool again even if it costs him his world cup place .....reported in Mirror today . So basically he is on strike ........Karma is wonderful You have to laugh on RAWK. The contrast between the two threads, the VVD one and the Coutinho one. They live in a different world those bin dippers, everything we have said about VVD, they are now having to say about Coutinho......so funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 (edited) Going on strike is basically the final straw that players like Coutinho & VvD have to force a move, so it wouldn't surprise me if this happens. Don't you need reasonable cause to go on strike ? Is it not also a group action to protest against some unreasonable condition or other. The player may be refusing to play in games but isn't on strike. The best way for these chaps to make their point, whatever that may be, would be to play and just get sent off for some reproachable action or other. Edited 16 August, 2017 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Sky bet have suspended betting on VVD to Man City. Might mean some hefty betting from ITK's or just some chancers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Don't you need reasonable cause to go on strike ? Is it not also a group action to protest against some unreasonable condition or other. The player may be refusing to play in games but isn't on strike. The best way for these chaps to make their point, whatever that may be, would be to play and just get sent off for some reproachable action or other. If he is withdrawing his labour completely he is on strike, strikes do not have to be made by a group, or at least the size of the group can be one. If a player refuses to do anything that is reasonably expected of him under the terms of his contract, which would include training at the club training ground and other PR duties, not just playing, then he is on strike. I doubt that Coutinho is actually doing all of this, just the playing part. Why would he stop training? Unless of course the Club have banned him from the training ground/facility, which would be very odd given that they want to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Sky bet have suspended betting on VVD to Man City. Might mean some hefty betting from ITK's or just some chancers. Skybet currently 9-1 on VVD to Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Skybet currently 9-1 on VVD to Man City. that particular bet was 25-1 about three weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 that particular bet was 25-1 about three weeks ago It's a pretty small market though, doesn't take much to move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 This would be good if true. Liverpool fans & media won't believe it though, as it doesn't fit their narrative... Simon PeachVerified account @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes agoMore #SaintsFC are interested in Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt - club keen on Dutch defender but not as replacement for compatriot Virgil van Dijk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 That would be great news. CB area still weak since Fonte left and 1 quality player short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 This would be good if true. Liverpool fans & media won't believe it though, as it doesn't fit their narrative... Simon PeachVerified account @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes agoMore #SaintsFC are interested in Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt - club keen on Dutch defender but not as replacement for compatriot Virgil van Dijk That's always going to be the line though, whether it's true or not. They cannot allow the selling club to think we've got £70 million coming in shortly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 This would be good if true. Liverpool fans & media won't believe it though, as it doesn't fit their narrative... Simon PeachVerified account @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes agoMore #SaintsFC are interested in Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt - club keen on Dutch defender but not as replacement for compatriot Virgil van Dijk AS you say LFC and press won't believe it. What they fail to understand is that our business model seems to have changed, both due to increase in money coming in, as well as a new owner. Kreuger even said that there was no need to sell THIS year unlike in other years. But no one seems to be listening. (As a caveat, I do realise that everyone has their price, and if anyone was to offer £80m or more, then.......) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Hoedt would make sense, even if VVD stays for the coming season. Can't see Gardos sticking around, Jan isn't ready yet, Jack is clearly going to play a fair bit. An extra body gives us the option for 3 at the back. How long is left on Maya's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Hoedt would make sense, even if VVD stays for the coming season. Can't see Gardos sticking around, Jan isn't ready yet, Jack is clearly going to play a fair bit. An extra body gives us the option for 3 at the back. How long is left on Maya's contract? This is about as ITK that I'll ever be. I have an acquaintance who is good friends with Gardos. He reckons that he is happy at the club and not looking for a move elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 That would be great news. CB area still weak since Fonte left and 1 quality player short. We've been stronger without Fonte who was on the slide, it was VVD we missed, Yoshi and JackS did a great job but no one in the whole Premier league would fully cover for Van Dyke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Hoedt would make sense, even if VVD stays for the coming season. Can't see Gardos sticking around, Jan isn't ready yet, Jack is clearly going to play a fair bit. An extra body gives us the option for 3 at the back. How long is left on Maya's contract? Honestly can't see we would spend 15million on a player and have him as the number 3 CB. It would mean that Jack becomes the long-term no.3 and we let Yoshida go in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Apparently, Hoedt has the same agent as VVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Hoeydt would be first choice with either stephens or VVD if he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 No chance we will be going with VVD, Hoedt, Stephens, Yoshida and Bednarek. If Hoedt comes in then I'd be staggered if that doesn't mean VVD is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 No chance we will be going with VVD, Hoedt, Stephens, Yoshida and Bednarek. If Hoedt comes in then I'd be staggered if that doesn't mean VVD is off. it is what Tom28 has been alluding to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 No chance we will be going with VVD, Hoedt, Stephens, Yoshida and Bednarek. If Hoedt comes in then I'd be staggered if that doesn't mean VVD is off. The general consensus everywhere seems to be that Bednarek is for the U23 team. Everyone has been begging for a 'Fonte replacement', surely Hoedt could be that? But I am inclined to agree with your assumption sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Apparently, Hoedt has the same agent as VVD. oh dear. he'll know what fee to set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 oh dear. he'll know what fee to set This is where we stand up and say to Hoedt that we're keen on him, but we won't deal with Wassermann. Find a new Agent son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 oh dear. he'll know what fee to set The club set the fee not the agent, he just tries to get the most money for himself.................................. oh! and the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 This is where we stand up and say to Hoedt that we're keen on him, but we won't deal with Wassermann. Find a new Agent son. then we will have to find another player, I would suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 This is where we stand up and say to Hoedt that we're keen on him, but we won't deal with Wassermann. Find a new Agent son.Hoedt agency is Sports Entertainment Group not Wassermann from what I can tell Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Ralph Krueger has done an interview stating VVD will not be sold. https://audioboom.com/posts/6210154-listen-saintsfc-chairman-ralph-krueger-maintains-club-stance-that-virgil-van-dijk-will-not-be-leaving-in-this-window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 (edited) Uh oh, Ralph Krueger has done an interview stating VVD will not be sold.http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15477027.Krueger__Virgil_will_be_welcomed_back_when_he_accepts_he_is_not_for_sale/ Krueger was asked whether Saints would even turn down a ludicrous offer if one came in and replied: “I will tell you one thing - over the years we have spoken I don't give definite answers where there isn't a definite. “With all the knowledge I have today and all the information I have on my plate right now my answer is we are carrying our strategy through the summer and that's it. “ Edited 16 August, 2017 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Apparently, Hoedt has the same agent as VVD. Hoedt is with SEG. vD is with Wasserman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 That interview with Krueger sounds to me like... club and VVD have agreed a deal for him to stay on and play for another year like what they did with Morgan... Good news if true. I can't see him being sold this window now. Impossible after that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Not impossible if someone bids a stupid amount. I suspect if it was £80m+ then that would do it. But who would spend that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Lol, following that, the VVD thread on RAWK has been shut. Looks like their fans may finally be getting the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Lol, following that, the VVD thread on RAWK has been shut. Looks like their fans may finally be getting the message. No it hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonwindmill Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 PS - I've had to turn talkSport off. "It's imperative that we sign vD" blah blah blah. Evenings are no better. Adrian Durham might as well be a skate the way he talks about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Sounds like Gao majority share has put to bed any doubt over vvd bring sold which ties in with what Tom28 alluded to. Ballsy statement he now needs to make sure it happens. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Evenings are no better. Adrian Durham might as well be a skate the way he talks about us. Durham is a big fan of saints tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/liverpool-transfer-target-virgil-van-dijk-not-sale-southampton-chairman-ralph-krueger-a7896866.html Krueger: "The new partnership has completely and wholly backed our strategy and plan and on September 1 people will see how serious we were and are." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 September 1. Judgement day. sounds like a trailer to blockbuster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonwindmill Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Durham is a big fan of saints tbf I think perhaps he is as far as our stability is concerned, but lately I've heard him roll out the same lines as many others about the inevitability of VvD going to Liverpool etc. At the weekend he said something about Pellegrino being "Puel in disguise" because we'd failed to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15477027.Krueger__Virgil_will_be_welcomed_back_when_he_accepts_he_is_not_for_sale/ I think that's more or less that. The 'not definite' is probably down to the fact that at the start of this window you could have safely said that Neymar is definitely not for sale... it's very slightly possible an insane offer that we literally can't ignore comes in from someone other than Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC-TID! Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 it is what Tom28 has been alluding to No it isn't. The plan was always to buy another CB regardless of whether or not Virgil stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 You have to laugh on RAWK. The contrast between the two threads, the VVD one and the Coutinho one. They live in a different world those bin dippers, everything we have said about VVD, they are now having to say about Coutinho......so funny! I can't wait until September the 1 st when, (here's hoping) Coutinho goes and they don't get VVD, for the 'We didn't want him anyway' double posts. Loverly jubbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 Not impossible if someone bids a stupid amount. I suspect if it was £80m+ then that would do it. But who would spend that much? Only Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 This would be good if true. Liverpool fans & media won't believe it though, as it doesn't fit their narrative... Simon PeachVerified account @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes agoMore #SaintsFC are interested in Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt - club keen on Dutch defender but not as replacement for compatriot Virgil van Dijk That'll appear on RAWK as: Eh,eh,eh, Dat Simon PEEEEECH just tweetid dat the Chiken FAHKERS ar makin' a bid for Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt asa replasmen fer VV........yer 'erd it 'er firsssssssta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 16 August, 2017 Share Posted 16 August, 2017 That'll appear on RAWK as: Eh,eh,eh, Dat Simon PEEEEECH just tweetid dat the Chiken FAHKERS ar makin' a bid for Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt asa replasmen fer VV........yer 'erd it 'er firsssssssta. No it wont because they have finally got the message it seems and closed the VVD thread on RAWK .............bout time ....lets move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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