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Virgil Transfer Rumours - Summer 17

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Dellman

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If we sell for under £90m we've been taken for mugs as with Mane. Also the market has blown bigtime, wasn't Pogba £90m a year ago? That makes 90 realistic for VVD but I actually hope we keep him to his contract, otherwise we are just encouraging unprofessional conduct--and having to eat our 'not for sale' words again.

simo

simo

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The dippers are still holding onto the "he only wants to play for us" line , I think they are seriously underestimating the agents roll in all this if it's a choice between staying "because his heart is set on Klopp" (and the agent not getting his payday) and going to any other club that meets our valuation Vvd will obviously be convinced to go there !

LaptopSaint

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If we sell for under £90m we've been taken for mugs as with Mane. Also the market has blown bigtime, wasn't Pogba £90m a year ago? That makes 90 realistic for VVD but I actually hope we keep him to his contract, otherwise we are just encouraging unprofessional conduct--and having to eat our 'not for sale' words again.

 

Don't be daft. If we get 60 mill that will be a world record fee for a defender. I'd take that if the club decided to accept. My preference though is still to keep him until Xmas at least - to make the point.

angelman

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I really do think that some of our supporters are way over valuing v Dijk. While I admit that there is a paucity of good CBs and vD is hugely in demand, just because one or two transfers are ridiculously over valued (aren't they all?) doesn't mean that they all will be.

CB Fry

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If we sell for under £90m we've been taken for mugs as with Mane. Also the market has blown bigtime, wasn't Pogba £90m a year ago? That makes 90 realistic for VVD but I actually hope we keep him to his contract, otherwise we are just encouraging unprofessional conduct--and having to eat our 'not for sale' words again.
We're not going to get ninety million pounds FFS.
Golac's Cunning Stunts

Golac's Cunning Stunts

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I really do think that some of our supporters are way over valuing v Dijk. While I admit that there is a paucity of good CBs and vD is hugely in demand, just because one or two transfers are ridiculously over valued (aren't they all?) doesn't mean that they all will be.

Your last sentence really makes no sense at all

SNSUN

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Don't be daft. If we get 60 mill that will be a world record fee for a defender. I'd take that if the club decided to accept. My preference though is still to keep him until Xmas at least - to make the point.

 

I reckon £60 million+ is about right in what we'll get, as you say it's a world record for a defender (although probably not for long), but under that will be poor considering the stance we've taken, even if it's "with add ons". I do believe we won't sell to Liverpool (which would be unanimously welcomed by Saints fans) but I would be very surprised if he's still here in September. If he does still happen to be here, IMO we can't take the risk as to whether he'll buckle down or not - either way we need to be bringing in a centre back.

 

I'm liking signings that 'unite' the fan base - we've had that with Gabbiadini and Lemina this year for the most part (less so with the unknown Bednarek), so i hope we can find a centre back we can all get behind. Reading comments on here, that seems to be Hoedt over Wimmer.

benjii

benjii

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It does to me. If you can tell me what you have trouble with, then I can explain for you.

 

He's right. It's a contradiction. It's nonsense.

Saint86

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Will be blunt. I am not sure there is much between VVD's current ability, and where stephens will be at the end of the season. VVD is a fantastic footballer and a giant of a man who is superb physically but sometimes lacks intelligence. Stephens is a classy defender who is only getting better and better with each game I watch him. He's not VVD yet, but I can see him being very good.

Dusic

Dusic

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Will be blunt. I am not sure there is much between VVD's current ability, and where stephens will be at the end of the season.

 

Think you have been hit with a blunt instrument. VVD miles better than Stephens will ever be (no slight on JS).

ohgulydoprado

ohgulydoprado

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Will be blunt. I am not sure there is much between VVD's current ability, and where stephens will be at the end of the season. VVD is a fantastic footballer and a giant of a man who is superb physically but sometimes lacks intelligence. Stephens is a classy defender who is only getting better and better with each game I watch him. He's not VVD yet, but I can see him being very good.

 

It's ok Les, you can sell him as long as it's not Liverpool.

austsaint

austsaint

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Will be blunt. I am not sure there is much between VVD's current ability, and where stephens will be at the end of the season. VVD is a fantastic footballer and a giant of a man who is superb physically but sometimes lacks intelligence. Stephens is a classy defender who is only getting better and better with each game I watch him. He's not VVD yet, but I can see him being very good.

 

No, no and no. My feeling is Stephens is a rapidly improving young CB, not far behind other highly rated English CBs like Stones and Gibson. But our Dutch wantaway is different class - and doesn't lack Footballing intelligence.

John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

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Barcelona lost to Real tonight 1-3, knowing how trigger happy they are in Spain, if they get beaten soundly in the second leg on Wednesday the phone could be ringing on merseyside then in Hampshire.

............. just a whimsical musing.

 

As an aside Ronaldo getting sent off was funny, if he stood a chance of getting the second yellow riscinded (the first was for getting his muscles out) he blew it by pushing the ref in the back after being shown the red.

Badger

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Still find it astonishing that people still think VVD may end up at Liverpool.

 

Don't think many see Les 'standing firm' and not caving in.

egg

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Still find it astonishing that people still think VVD may end up at Liverpool.

 

I find it astonishing that people think that we won't take Liverpool's money if they come in with a bid that's much higher than the next best bid.

RonManager

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I find it astonishing that people think that we won't take Liverpool's money if they come in with a bid that's much higher than the next best bid.

But they have publicly said that because of the tapping up, that they will not be pursuing the player.

egg

egg

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But they have publicly said that because of the tapping up, that they will not be pursuing the player.

That's not my point. If they offer significantly more than anyone else we'll take their money. Principles will disappear if there's another £5m on the table.

LaptopSaint

LaptopSaint

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That's not my point. If they offer significantly more than anyone else we'll take their money. Principles will disappear if there's another £5m on the table.

 

I don't think this is correct. Usually, yes. This time, no. He won't go to Liverpool. We've staked too much on that.

Red

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Just watched a Kevin Bridges repeat on telly - brilliant. Maybe should have just stayed here - equally entertaining, if perhaps slower on the delivery!

OttawaSaint

OttawaSaint

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Barcelona lost to Real tonight 1-3, knowing how trigger happy they are in Spain, if they get beaten soundly in the second leg on Wednesday the phone could be ringing on merseyside then in Hampshire.

............. just a whimsical musing.

 

As an aside Ronaldo getting sent off was funny, if he stood a chance of getting the second yellow riscinded (the first was for getting his muscles out) he blew it by pushing the ref in the back after being shown the red.

 

Ronaldo made the most of the minimal contact but Suarez's dive was worse.

Redslo

Redslo

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Barcelona lost to Real tonight 1-3, knowing how trigger happy they are in Spain, if they get beaten soundly in the second leg on Wednesday the phone could be ringing on merseyside then in Hampshire.

............. just a whimsical musing.

 

As an aside Ronaldo getting sent off was funny, if he stood a chance of getting the second yellow riscinded (the first was for getting his muscles out) he blew it by pushing the ref in the back after being shown the red.

 

If we sell to Barcelona we should insist upon a buy back clause.

benjii

benjii

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Ronaldo made the most of the minimal contact but Suarez's dive was worse.

 

Ronaldo just fell over. It was shocking refereeing, especially having given a penalty for a clear dive by Suarez.

Wes Tender

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I really do think that some of our supporters are way over valuing v Dijk. While I admit that there is a paucity of good CBs and vD is hugely in demand, just because one or two transfers are ridiculously over valued (aren't they all?) doesn't mean that they all will be.

 

The value of a player is what a club is prepared to pay for them and what the selling club is prepared to accept, it's as simple as that. All this guff in the media about Virgil "valued at £50/60 million" is absolute rubbish, put about by the glory club supporting media in an attempt to reduce the amount that Southampton will accept. So it would be a world record fee for a defender. So what? We could never afford to buy a player at that price and we have one in our squad, so we will be very happy to keep him if we can get him to play after the 1st September. His value will continue to head north if he puts in the effort that he ought to if he wants to make himself attractive to bigger clubs than Scousehampton in January, or next summer.

Batman

Batman

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all sections of the media are so pro-liverpool it is incredible (and utterly boring)

 

be nice if there are any non liverpool loving people to read, watch, listen to?

Batman

Batman

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I don't watch BT Sport... Are they LFC sycophants as well?

 

I think it is easier to pick out who isn't, there are so few of them. MLT being one

 

also, Joey Barton was quite open when he said he doesn't get the hype around Klopp. He was of course, shot down by his fellow presenters and told Klopp is amazing

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farawaysaint

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I think it is easier to pick out who isn't, there are so few of them. MLT being one

 

also, Joey Barton was quite open when he said he doesn't get the hype around Klopp. He was of course, shot down by his fellow presenters and told Klopp is amazing

 

Barton is a good pundit to be fair.

Batman

Batman

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The latest one I heard was Dean Saunders on talkshyte (so absolute horseshyt) was that Liverpool should sell Countinho and buy Dele Alli, who would jump at the chance to move to a club like Liverpool

 

 

:lol:

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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Barton is a good pundit to be fair.

 

Well he is the sort who doesnt toe the party line so would be quite happy to break rank and tell it like it is, same with Roy Keane.

Miltonaggro

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Don't think many see Les 'standing firm' and not caving in.

 

 

He would gain a lot of credit if he said they can have him for all of the Coutinho money plus Sakho. Just for the giggles...

Saint_Ash

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I think it is easier to pick out who isn't, there are so few of them. MLT being one

 

also, Joey Barton was quite open when he said he doesn't get the hype around Klopp. He was of course, shot down by his fellow presenters and told Klopp is amazing

 

He called Klopp a German cheerleader. :lol:

baggytrousers

baggytrousers

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The value of a player is what a club is prepared to pay for them and what the selling club is prepared to accept, it's as simple as that. All this guff in the media about Virgil "valued at £50/60 million" is absolute rubbish, put about by the glory club supporting media in an attempt to reduce the amount that Southampton will accept. So it would be a world record fee for a defender. So what? We could never afford to buy a player at that price and we have one in our squad, so we will be very happy to keep him if we can get him to play after the 1st September. His value will continue to head north if he puts in the effort that he ought to if he wants to make himself attractive to bigger clubs than Scousehampton in January, or next summer.

 

Spot on !!!

 

Don't know why more people can't see this.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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He called Klopp a German cheerleader. :lol:

 

Little stat I saw today - Klopp 100 matches as Liverpool manager - 50 wins, Brendan Rodgers first 100 matches - 53 wins....

 

wonderful manager :?

hutch

hutch

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Also, it's possibly copyright infringement, unless they had permission to use content from this site.

I'm not sure that's the sort of tit for tat debate Granty would want to get into.

Gorgiesaint

Gorgiesaint

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Also, it's possibly copyright infringement, unless they had permission to use content from this site.

 

Exactly, it's not like we post quotes from the papers on here and 'breach' their copyright... :rolleyes:

Batman

Batman

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According to Danny Murphy, Countinho should think twice about leaving Liverpool as Klopp really looks after his players and is a special manager.

When asked if VvD will go to Liverpool, he said almost certainly. All parties wanted the deal done but southampton are now just getting a little greedy and want more money

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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According to Danny Murphy, Countinho should think twice about leaving Liverpool as Klopp really looks after his players and is a special manager.

When asked if VvD will go to Liverpool, he said almost certainly. All parties wanted the deal done but southampton are now just getting a little greedy and want more money

 

The Liverpool bias in the media is really cringe. They don't know what they're on about half the time.

Donatello

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According to Danny Murphy, Countinho should think twice about leaving Liverpool as Klopp really looks after his players and is a special manager.

When asked if VvD will go to Liverpool, he said almost certainly. All parties wanted the deal done but southampton are now just getting a little greedy and want more money

 

It's our prerogative to be as "greedy" as we f*ckin' like :thumbup: HTH, Danny.

angelman

angelman

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I love this. We should just roll over to let Liverpool tickle our tummies and be grateful for it. Now Liverpool refusing £72m and £90m for Cutinho is just them being a little greedy.

Dangermouth

Dangermouth

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That's... odd. I mean, I know The Express is basically a red top, but even so...

 

Also, it's possibly copyright infringement, unless they had permission to use content from this site.

 

 

Erm. How is stuff posted on here copywrit/ed? One, this is essentially a gossip/opinion site so it would be hard to class any of it as intellectual property; secondly it's been attributed to someone: 'a fan' even though it is possibly and probably a valid recollection of what did occur; thirdly it's what now passes for 'the media' aka 'the press' (as was) so it's all 'Sky sources' and nothing of any real substance (for which you'd probably need only 3 journalists for the whole country).

 

It does show, however, that this site has now become a place where 'journalists' or their gophers will frequent, which we probably all knew anyway, and that Glasgow probably works for The Sun.

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