Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 11 August, 2017 Share Posted 11 August, 2017 Anyone follow rawk meltdown on Twitter? Hilarious. @rawk_meltdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 11 August, 2017 Share Posted 11 August, 2017 Example quote (RAWK Meltdown) Has anybody seen this on twitter? Basically a profile that posts quoted from this site and makes us look like bell ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 11 August, 2017 Share Posted 11 August, 2017 He played under Pochettino that was why we were in for him from Inter Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Not quite true. We were drawn to Poch whilst scouting PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Oh no that's right they aren't allowed to utter the C word! Catalunya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 it is being suggested that Guardiola has met with Coutinho on behalf of Barcelona to tempt him.... hilarious if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 it is being suggested that Guardiola has met with Coutinho on behalf of Barcelona to tempt him.... hilarious if true Hope it was in Blackpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 look at this moron..who not that long ago, was on board with VvD forcing his move to Liverpool @mickquinn1089 Follow More As a Pro,it was a privilege to be paid to play footy,but some modern day pros are just mercenaries without one ounce of loyalty in them ⚽️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 look at this moron..who not that long ago, was on board with VvD forcing his move to Liverpool @mickquinn1089 Follow More As a Pro,it was a privilege to be paid to play footy,but some modern day pros are just mercenaries without one ounce of loyalty in them ��⚽️ that guy is such a cockwomble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 This is the **** that was banned from training horses for three years (reduced to 18 months on appeal) specifically for neglecting his horses, who when interviewed some time later said "there was no cruelty or neglect, nothing like that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 look at this moron..who not that long ago, was on board with VvD forcing his move to Liverpool @mickquinn1089 Follow More As a Pro,it was a privilege to be paid to play footy,but some modern day pros are just mercenaries without one ounce of loyalty in them ��⚽️ Lol at least Matt has called him on it; But you were encouraging VVD to have no loyalty Mick make up your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 This is the **** that was banned from training horses for three years (reduced to 18 months on appeal) specifically for neglecting his horses, who when interviewed some time later said "there was no cruelty or neglect, nothing like that". To be fair Chez, he played in pompey for years. After that flailing wouldn't seem like cruelty! He's a bell end of the highest order who actually makes me feel sorry for Bob Carrollgees and after what he inflicted on the nation for years, that takes some doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Lol at least Matt has called him on it; But you were encouraging VVD to have no loyalty Mick make up your mind �� Living close to scouseland and working with a load of Liverpool fans I have to say that I am loving this hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Living close to scouseland and working with a load of Liverpool fans I have to say that I am loving this hypocrisy Remarkable thing is that most of them are too thick to see it or understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 John Barnes on Talksport. "In my day if you wanted a move and it was rejected, you stayed and got on with it. You respected the club and supporters. You were happy to sign a contract, and although a move would have been great, if denied one, you stick to your contract". He specifically mentioned VvD, rather than PC. Claims he could have moved to Liverpool earlier, but was refused. Just stayed and respected Watford. Said there was no chance of anyone messing their club around or sulking back then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 John Barnes on Talksport. "In my day if you wanted a move and it was rejected, you stayed and got on with it. You respected the club and supporters. You were happy to sign a contract, and although a move would have been great, if denied one, you stick to your contract". He specifically mentioned VvD, rather than PC. Claims he could have moved to Liverpool earlier, but was refused. Just stayed and respected Watford. Said there was no chance of anyone messing their club around or sulking back then. Totally. It would also help massively if the transfer window closed a couple of days BEFORE the start of matches rather than weeks afterwards. I know it's old news but we can see how it affects clubs negatively, especially those looking to keep hold of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 John Barnes on Talksport. "In my day if you wanted a move and it was rejected, you stayed and got on with it. You respected the club and supporters. You were happy to sign a contract, and although a move would have been great, if denied one, you stick to your contract". He specifically mentioned VvD, rather than PC. Claims he could have moved to Liverpool earlier, but was refused. Just stayed and respected Watford. Said there was no chance of anyone messing their club around or sulking back then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've no doubt that 90% if not all of this is as a result of Virgil changing agents to same agency that ****ed us around with Koeman. The modern footballer takes a lot of stick, sometimes rightly so (as in this case) but clubs/FA/PFA really need to clamp down on these pests that are wrecking the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 I've no doubt that 90% if not all of this is as a result of Virgil changing agents to same agency that ****ed us around with Koeman. The modern footballer takes a lot of stick, sometimes rightly so (as in this case) but clubs/FA/PFA really need to clamp down on these pests that are wrecking the game. Yes, but who decided to change agent? He's a big boy, or does he need his hand held all his life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 (edited) Yes, but who decided to change agent? Indeed. The chronology of events is more likely to have been: 1) VvD decides he wants to leave Saints 2) VvD decides to switch to an agent who has a reputation for engineering player transfers to accelerate his goal Rather than: 1) VvD wants to stay at Saints but for some unknown reason decides to switch to an agent who has a reputation for engineering player transfers 2) VvD coincidentally changes his mind and decides he wants to leave Saints Edited 12 August, 2017 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 I've no doubt that 90% if not all of this is as a result of Virgil changing agents to same agency that ****ed us around with Koeman. The modern footballer takes a lot of stick, sometimes rightly so (as in this case) but clubs/FA/PFA really need to clamp down on these pests that are wrecking the game. As I've said before two incidents of once cordial relationships between Southampton FC and their former manager and a player who was made captain, turned toxic by the same agent, Rob Jansen, of Wassermans. I suspect that when we are scouting players or future managers, we will give a wide berth to those who have Jansen as their agent, as it has become all too clear that 5 minutes after they arrive here, Jansen will be turning their heads towards moving them on to a glory club, so that he can get his greedy hands onto a giant wodge of dosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 perhaps Koeman being ex Barca will wade in with an opinion on PC being allowed to move the further his short career, bound to be a respected viewpoint on Merseyside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Indeed. The chronology of events is more likely to have been: 1) VvD decides he wants to leave Saints 2) VvD decides to switch to an agent who has a reputation for engineering player transfers to accelerate his goal Rather than: 1) VvD wants to stay at Saints but for some unknown reason decides to switch to an agent who has a reputation for engineering player transfers 2) VvD coincidentally changes his mind and decides he wants to leave Saints An alternative would be: 1) VvD is happy at Saints and his agent 2) New agent taps him up promising more money 3) Gets injured and has time to consider how short his career might be so changes agent 4) Gets new agent to engineer the move At the end of the day it's pure speculation but it would be interesting to know how much certain agents tap up other agents clients. I suspect it might be more widespread than is commonly known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 The point about the transfer window not closing until after the start of the season looks to be a very prominent one this year – just look at all the teams having to deal with outstanding player issues before a ball has even been kicked… Saints with Van Dijk Liverpool with Countinho Arsenal with Sanchez Swansea with Sigurdsson Everton with Barkley Spurs with Rose Chelsea with Costa Leicester with Mahrez This is affecting the big teams now more and more and it wouldn’t surprise me if they started putting some pressure on the FA to try and change things up a bit. I’m sure all the managers would prefer if all this was resolved and their squads were finalised before having to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 The point about the transfer window not closing until after the start of the season looks to be a very prominent one this year – just look at all the teams having to deal with outstanding player issues before a ball has even been kicked… Saints with Van Dijk Liverpool with Countinho Arsenal with Sanchez Swansea with Sigurdsson Everton with Barkley Spurs with Rose Chelsea with Costa Leicester with Mahrez This is affecting the big teams now more and more and it wouldn’t surprise me if they started putting some pressure on the FA to try and change things up a bit. I’m sure all the managers would prefer if all this was resolved and their squads were finalised before having to start the season. I agree. The window should open on 1st June (or the first Monday after the last game of the season, which is normally the Champions League final) and shut by 1st August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Dippers losing after poor defending at a set piece lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Dodgy defending from Liverpool 9 minutes into their first game bet they wish they had a quality CB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Saw this on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Dodgy defending from Liverpool 9 minutes into their first game bet they wish they had a quality CB.. VvD's Liverpool Tax just went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 And again! I can see why they're after VvD. Why they're not after another defender that can just tie his own shoelaces is a mystery though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Trev Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 I agree. The window should open on 1st June (or the first Monday after the last game of the season, which is normally the Champions League final) and shut by 1st August. Why stop there? Introduce a salary cap (this would have to happen across all major world leagues) and lets get a more even playing field because quite frankly, the Premier league and other major leagues around the world are a complete snoozfest in terms of the same clubs always being at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Keystone cops defending on Watford's second goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Jamie Redknapp: "call Van Dijk and add an extra £20k to the contract". How about first putting a bid in that's acceptable to his current club you humongous cretin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Jamie Redknapp: "call Van Dijk and add an extra £20k to the contract". How about first putting a bid in that's acceptable to his current club you humongous cretin? Isn't calling VVD (and offer him another 20k) what got Liverpool in trouble in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Isn't calling VVD (and offer him another 20k) what got Liverpool in trouble in the first place? It's absolutely ridiculous. How they can get away with effectively endorsing breaking the rules on live TV is beyond me. Completely unprofessional. Whilst we have all these so called ex-pro experts showing disregard for the rules then they will never be properly enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Jamie Redknapp: "call Van Dijk and add an extra £20k to the contract". How about first putting a bid in that's acceptable to his current club you humongous cretin? It's their fans and the pundits that have treated this like a done deal, like we don't have any right to keep hold of him, that's ****ed me off most during this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 It's their fans and the pundits that have treated this like a done deal, like we don't have any right to keep hold of him, that's ****ed me off most during this. They are, without doubt, the most deluded and self entitled set of fans in the country. Haven't won the Premier League ever, last won a major trophy over a decade ago and behave like a club far above their current station. Last week they were going to win the league because they beat Bayern in a meaningless friendly, this week they are being outplayed by Watford. The inconsistency of comments on the Coutinho vs the VVD situation is the most annoying. It's literally the same situation, was good to see MLT pointing out some of the hypocrisy on Sky this morning in front of their big club biased panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 what did MLT say earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Why stop there? Introduce a salary cap (this would have to happen across all major world leagues) and lets get a more even playing field because quite frankly, the Premier league and other major leagues around the world are a complete snoozfest in terms of the same clubs always being at the top. Very sensible post. Do you ever see FIFA doing this? No, because it would mean they can't find ways to feed at the trough (i.e. a change of 'leadership' has changed nothing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 what did MLT say earlier? Called out Charlie Nicholas for saying that both Saints and Liverpool should let VVD and Coutinho leave as they'd handed in transfer requests and then saying that there was no need for English clubs to introduce release clauses (like Spain) as clubs could just refuse to sell... There was also some back and forth with Thompson but only caught the tail end of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Jamie Redknapp: "call Van Dijk and add an extra £20k to the contract". How about first putting a bid in that's acceptable to his current club you humongous cretin? Good idea from Redknapp. Liverpool do not have permission to speak to van Dijk so this would be a good way of getting banned from transfers. Well done, little Jim, thick as the old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 It's absolutely ridiculous. How they can get away with effectively endorsing breaking the rules on live TV is beyond me. Completely unprofessional. Whilst we have all these so called ex-pro experts showing disregard for the rules then they will never be properly enforced. He's a Redknapp. He's beyond the reach of the laws. He can't read or write. He doesn't know how to use a phone. And it wos the dog wot dunnit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Make it £80m for VVD only for Liverpool. They'll be desperate now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Isn't calling VVD (and offer him another 20k) what got Liverpool in trouble in the first place? They offered him 220k/week It's about + £160k~ week - hence why he wants to move. City and Chelsea won't offer him 220 or will be somewhere around 150 tops I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Redknapp getting hot under the collar about Vvd can't get his head around what Carragher is trying to tell him about tactics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 So that's Chelsea and Liverpool who are looking leaky and badly need a centre back... Hope we stand firm on the asking price. Or increase it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Blablabla..... Who gets VVD, who wins the champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Blablabla..... Who gets VVD, who wins the champion. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Why stop there? Introduce a salary cap (this would have to happen across all major world leagues) and lets get a more even playing field because quite frankly, the Premier league and other major leagues around the world are a complete snoozfest in terms of the same clubs always being at the top. I wonder whether a limit on weekly wage - say £25k - with "any additional weekly salary" placed in trust for when the player retires from football. This would have the effect of evening out to some extent the relative comparative lifestyles of footballers. Someone a bit smarter could work out the formula but for example: Premier base salary......£5k Championship base salary....£3k League 1 base salary....£1.5k League 2 base salary....£750 Then add on for categories like: International.....levels based on number of caps Career appearances...... levels again Loyalty to club....levels for each year.. plus bonuses... goals play clean sheets etc etc After that its up to the club, player, agent to decide on any payments that go into the trust fund. The other side of this is that the money will less impact during their playing career and will possibly help to protect their future, particularly lower level players. Just some thoughts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 I wonder whether a limit on weekly wage - say £25k - with "any additional weekly salary" placed in trust for when the player retires from football. This would have the effect of evening out to some extent the relative comparative lifestyles of footballers. Someone a bit smarter could work out the formula but for example: Premier base salary......£5k Championship base salary....£3k League 1 base salary....£1.5k League 2 base salary....£750 Then add on for categories like: International.....levels based on number of caps Career appearances...... levels again Loyalty to club....levels for each year.. plus bonuses... goals play clean sheets etc etc After that its up to the club, player, agent to decide on any payments that go into the trust fund. The other side of this is that the money will less impact during their playing career and will possibly help to protect their future, particularly lower level players. Just some thoughts.... Problem with any scheme is expensive lawyers will find a way to abuse it. Image rights, bonuses, fringe benefits. There hasn't been a law invented that can't be circumvented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 At the end of the day it's pure speculation but it would be interesting to know how much certain agents tap up other agents clients. I suspect it might be more widespread than is commonly known. And the greatest irony if it did indeed happen, is that the one who gives the appearance of being one of the biggest culprits, is none other than Rob Jansen, who just happens to be......the founding President of the European Football Agents Association, i.e. chief rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 12 August, 2017 Share Posted 12 August, 2017 Jamie Redknapp: "call Van Dijk and add an extra £20k to the contract". How about first putting a bid in that's acceptable to his current club you humongous cretin? Yes Jamie..that's why he hasn't moved because he wants another 20k a week. All this time what held it up was Liverppol not phoning double VD and offering another 20k per week. If only you would have told them sooner. What a ****. How do TV companies use these idiots with no knowledge or brains as "experts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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