Lighthouse Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 Serious question, what would it really achieve? Any player wanting to go will do a virgil regardless of whether we dig our heels in this time. Any vultures will prey regardless. The clubs posturing has helped drive up drive up the price, at the expense of p:ssing the fans off and giving them false hope. I can't say the club has done anything to p1ss off the fans this summer. Obviously it will be a complete p1ss take if they sell now but I can't see it, so close to the end of the window.
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 Yep. They'll dress it up as something like 'nobody is bigger than the club' and 'Harmony amongst the players is crucial' etc. Hopefully they'll sweeten the pill with a decent forward or proper number 10.That's a good point. If though we genuinely don't have any more cash for reinforcements, would be interesting to see what people think about selling so we can buy a quality attacking player or two.
Heisenberg Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 That's a good point. If though we genuinely don't have any more cash for reinforcements, would be interesting to see what people think about selling so we can buy a quality attacking player or two. Why would we not have any funds? Net spend winners for last 3 summers and receiving 150m a year just from tv revenue. If we genuinely cant buy without selling still then something has gone seriously wrong Kat was "delighted" to announce the new owners as they could take us to the next level....... That was a week ago
cambsaint Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 If it's really true that there is a bid of over £80 million then Saints would be daft not to accept it for an unsettled player. At a certain level pragmatism counts. Supporters should be pleased as long as it is used to reinvest in players and not just to part pay for the club purchase by the new majority shareholder.
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 If it's really true that there is a bid of over £80 million then Saints would be daft not to accept it for an unsettled player. At a certain level pragmatism counts. Supporters should be pleased as long as it is used to reinvest in players and not just to part pay for the club purchase by the new majority shareholder.Can't imagine anyone is going to pay 80 million. He isn't worth that amount.
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 Why would we not have any funds? Net spend winners for last 3 summers and receiving 150m a year just from tv revenue. If we genuinely cant buy without selling still then something has gone seriously wrong Kat was "delighted" to announce the new owners as they could take us to the next level....... That was a week agoBuzz off you troll. I said if we don't have any more funds for a big name signing and I have no idea what the new owners are like so that may he the case.
Dark Munster Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 Quite right, holding on to a stubborn knob like Van Dijk will do us no good whatsoever. What has he got to lose really, nothing is the answer. Hasn't played since February, isn't in the Dutch National side just now, they won't qualify for the WC anyway and there is only a certain amount of fines we can inflict on him in what is a fairly narrow corridor of action. As long as he turns up for training as requested he can be dire as you like and we can't do anything at all about it. If he doesn't train hard he'll not be selected anyway and so the only losers will be SFC. I tell you, we should take the money and be rid of him. Why not? They're not Scotland, and they're only 3 points behind the top two teams.
leeham_69 Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 I put a bet on him staying at 10 to 1 so he will definitely be leaving.
Pamplemousse Posted 28 August, 2017 Posted 28 August, 2017 This is the account that is tweeting this £80M rumour and medical stuff. https://twitter.com/GarethCambridge Weird, the lengths Liverpool fans go too. I did a reverse image search of the profile picture and it comes back to this
Redslo Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Why would we not have any funds? Net spend winners for last 3 summers and receiving 150m a year just from tv revenue. If we genuinely cant buy without selling still then something has gone seriously wrong Kat was "delighted" to announce the new owners as they could take us to the next level....... That was a week ago Do you really not understand that the transfer prices in the media are not necessarily accurate and, even if they are, they do not mean that the club instantly receives and gets to keep the full amount? Do you not understand that the long term contracts we have signed players to involve significant increases in salary? There is no large reserve of unspent cash.
OttawaSaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Do you really not understand that the transfer prices in the media are not necessarily accurate and, even if they are, they do not mean that the club instantly receives and gets to keep the full amount? Do you not understand that the long term contracts we have signed players to involve significant increases in salary? There is no large reserve of unspent cash. Course he does. He's trolling with his net spend routine. Ignore the ****.
SNSUN Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Two days to go and Liverpool, their fans, their ex-players, VVD, his agent and no doubt the entire British media will all be doing their best to force this to a conclusion which sees him ending up at Liverpool. I still feel, long term, that it's his most likely destination, and they'll be on a high after securing Keita (albeit for next summer) when they thought that deal was dead. Chelsea don't really need him for the money they'd have to pay and Arsenal notoriously under-bid for players and I don't believe they'd stump up the money we want for him. City are a possibility - the link for Evans seems to have gone cold since he's been linked to Leicester and there's no denying they have the money, and he'd instantly improve them, but they already have 3 good centre backs. I've expected him to leave all summer for the right price, especially when his toys started being thrown out the pram, but I'm hugely proud of the club for getting this close to September with the courage of their convictions. The issue about whether he'll knuckle down and play or train with the youth team is a question for Friday. The next two days will drag.
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 This is the account that is tweeting this £80M rumour and medical stuff. https://twitter.com/GarethCambridge Weird, the lengths Liverpool fans go too. I did a reverse image search of the profile picture and it comes back to this Scratching my head at this. This is my sisters kitchen, as built by late brother-in-law. Seriously, I sh*t you not. This photo is taken in a house off Botley Road, Sholing...
Alain Perrin Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Scratching my head at this. This is my sisters kitchen, as built by late brother-in-law. Seriously, I sh*t you not. This photo is taken in a house off Botley Road, Sholing... Unless that's your sister, is it not a chance that it's another kitchen? I had the same doors on a kitchen I rebuilt using doors bought from B&Q (cherrywood IIRC) c. 2006 - I suspect they aren't one offs
farawaysaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Scratching my head at this. This is my sisters kitchen, as built by late brother-in-law. Seriously, I sh*t you not. This photo is taken in a house off Botley Road, Sholing...
St Chalet Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Scratching my head at this. This is my sisters kitchen, as built by late brother-in-law. Seriously, I sh*t you not. This photo is taken in a house off Botley Road, Sholing... Nice to see a positive contribution! Keep it up.
benjii Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Scratching my head at this. This is my sisters kitchen, as built by late brother-in-law. Seriously, I sh*t you not. This photo is taken in a house off Botley Road, Sholing...
Nolan Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Scratching my head at this. This is my sisters kitchen, as built by late brother-in-law. Seriously, I sh*t you not. This photo is taken in a house off Botley Road, Sholing...Person from Southampton in Liverpool wind up Shocker...
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Unless that's your sister, is it not a chance that it's another kitchen? I had the same doors on a kitchen I rebuilt using doors bought from B&Q (cherrywood IIRC) c. 2006 - I suspect they aren't one offs But the layout is identical. IDENTICAL. I'll have to ask her who this **** is this evening.
DT Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Pretty obvious we'll sell and they'll have the last laugh, especially after pocketing huge profit moving Coutinho on Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
alpine_saint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 The noise from the press this morning is DEAFENING. I really resent how they seem to be pushing this deal over the line. And inferring to us that Wreck-It Ralph is lying through his teeth at us. This next 2 days is going to be painful. The worst-case scenario is VVD sold to Liverpool well below our valuation and no-one new brought in within the window. I have an awful sense of foreboding...
Roger Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Pretty obvious we'll sell and they'll have the last laugh, especially after pocketing huge profit moving Coutinho on Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You're wrong.
angelman Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Roger, knowledge or conjecture? With the press being briefed by LFC so comprehensively, anyone might be forgiven for thinking that he is off. They are almost as bad as WHU and that idiot of a son of one of the chairmen. No actually, he is just an idiot. Liverpool are much more manipulative of their army of sycophantic reporters.
DT Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 You're wrong. Hope so Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Fabrice29 Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Not sure if they sell PC that they'll be laughing. They've said quite a lot that they wouldn't sell him and I've yet to hear the "unlese we get a stupid bid" or "he makes it impossible for him to stay" caveat from them that we used.
Black Sea Saint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 no-one new brought in within the window. Bednarek Lemina Hoedt
Nolan Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 @garethcambridge is a poor fake agent. He even had tweets published on newspaper sites under his former guise "captain clueless".
JoeShmoe Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 81m + add-ons for VVD is nonsense - bite their hands off - providing its all up front and not in 10 instalements Use it to replace Tadic, JWP and Boufal
angelman Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 I'm in 2 minds about vD. On the one hand, his tantrum has got the desired result with me. I don't actually want him to play for us again, unless there is some major contrition. Sack cloth and self flagellation. He has been a complete and utter ****. On the other hand I totally support the club's stance. I am interested though in if LFC offered enough, would people be happy for him to go there? As time passes and the deadline approaches, that figure for me starts with a 9! I guess mid-80s might be OK, but anything with a 7 would be disappointing
beatlesaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 If this rumbles on until Thursday that knob on Sky Sports, Jim "I'm Mr Transfer Deadline Day" White will have a minute by minute Virgil Watch with varying degrees of hysteria as some spotty 12 yr old kid from Stoke sees him zooming up the M6 (good luck with that) or Sid from Sefton Park sees him fly into Liverpool JL Airport on a private jet
SKD Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 If we sell him to Liverpool, then that will be me offically done with Les Reed and the rest of the board.
angelman Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 If we sell him to Liverpool, then that will be me offically done with Les Reed and the rest of the board. Regardless of the amount?
Heisenberg Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Regardless of the amount? We will never know the amount.... It will be reported with wild fluctuations like all deals... Then when official finances are revealed we will again see it was nowhere near the upper reported amounts . We should NOT sell to Liverpool under ANY circumstances
Batman Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 We will never know the amount.... It will be reported with wild fluctuations like all deals... Then when official finances are revealed we will again see it was nowhere near the upper reported amounts . We should NOT sell to Liverpool under ANY circumstances one thing is for sure, if we get £75m for VvD. His replacement will be in the £10-15m range and we maybe loan a forward player the accountant fans will be loving it that we got such a huge fee for a defender
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 We will never know the amount.... It will be reported with wild fluctuations like all deals... Then when official finances are revealed we will again see it was nowhere near the upper reported amounts . We should NOT sell to Liverpool under ANY circumstances I agree with you on this bit... 100%
Norm Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 If we sell him to Liverpool, then that will be me offically done with Les Reed and the rest of the board. What does that mean? Do you have dealings with LR and the board or are you just saying you will be really ******ed off and won't go to any more games? Or that you are really ******ed off and what? Genuine question and not intended to cause offence. My stance, for as little as its worth, do NOT sell him to Liverpool but he can go as soon as possible to anyone else for the required fee.
kraftwerk26 Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Regardless of amount we should never deal with Liverpool e we again ...fucj them
Snopper Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 My stance, for as little as its worth, do NOT sell him to Liverpool but he can go as soon as possible to anyone else for the required fee. Mine too, Norm - agree 100% with you
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 If we sell him to Liverpool, then that will be me offically done with Les Reed and the rest of the board. How about unofficially? And wiggle room there? [emoji6] Don't sell him - end of. Oh and anyone that can't stand the pressure over the next 2 days. Don't come on here and don't watch SSN. I think you'll find you'll manage. [emoji3]
Tom28 Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Where is Tom28 when you need him? The answer to that is a very dark place. The curse of a free bar. I'm better today, thanks for asking. Anyway, update I got yesterday is I gather that the reports of a done deal to Liverpool are wide of the mark. However, it's certainly more likely that VVD will leave now than it was 7-10 days ago. But no deal has been agreed with any club. We are pursuing two transfer strategies. The first is no club meets the valuation and VvD stays and we sign one of the two players I've mentioned before. The second is we sell VVD and sign a high profile attacking player and I understand we've made moves to do that. I haven't been told any names. Would still sign the other player and then look to send an attacking player out on loan. There's a little more information I have but can't share it yet. Expect another update later today.
Doctoroncall Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Regardless of the amount? Team progression is what counts rather than money received or the call to spend it all. It's getting the right player in which isn't an exact science. It would be interesting to hear from some first teamers if this side show is a distraction or if it has been isolated enough from them. There is also VvD's mental aptitude to apply himself to the team's cause after the window is closed.
Foxstone Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 £80 million is a £30 million premium above the amount being touted at the start of the summer transfer window. I don't care who we mug off for that amount - I still say get rid of the poisonous brat.
Pass the Dutchie Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 The answer to that is a very dark place. The curse of a free bar. I'm better today, thanks for asking. Anyway, update I got yesterday is I gather that the reports of a done deal to Liverpool are wide of the mark. However, it's certainly more likely that VVD will leave now than it was 7-10 days ago. But no deal has been agreed with any club. We are pursuing two transfer strategies. The first is no club meets the valuation and VvD stays and we sign one of the two players I've mentioned before. The second is we sell VVD and sign a high profile attacking player and I understand we've made moves to do that. I haven't been told any names. Would still sign the other player and then look to send an attacking player out on loan. There's a little more information I have but can't share it yet. Expect another update later today. Thanks Tom. Any interest in Clasie, Højbjerg, or anyone else? Wrong thread, but since you're here...
shurlock Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 The answer to that is a very dark place. The curse of a free bar. I'm better today, thanks for asking. Anyway, update I got yesterday is I gather that the reports of a done deal to Liverpool are wide of the mark. However, it's certainly more likely that VVD will leave now than it was 7-10 days ago. But no deal has been agreed with any club. We are pursuing two transfer strategies. The first is no club meets the valuation and VvD stays and we sign one of the two players I've mentioned before. The second is we sell VVD and sign a high profile attacking player and I understand we've made moves to do that. I haven't been told any names. Would still sign the other player and then look to send an attacking player out on loan. There's a little more information I have but can't share it yet. Expect another update later today. Which players did you mention before?
Foxstone Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 The answer to that is a very dark place. The curse of a free bar. I'm better today, thanks for asking. Anyway, update I got yesterday is I gather that the reports of a done deal to Liverpool are wide of the mark. However, it's certainly more likely that VVD will leave now than it was 7-10 days ago. But no deal has been agreed with any club. We are pursuing two transfer strategies. The first is no club meets the valuation and VvD stays and we sign one of the two players I've mentioned before. The second is we sell VVD and sign a high profile attacking player and I understand we've made moves to do that. I haven't been told any names. Would still sign the other player and then look to send an attacking player out on loan. There's a little more information I have but can't share it yet. Expect another update later today. Cheers Tom I quite like option 2...
benjii Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 Not to Liverpool in any circumstances whatsoever. Not for £200million. It won't make a jot of difference who we sign and it will make the club look like a joke.
Batman Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 The answer to that is a very dark place. The curse of a free bar. I'm better today, thanks for asking. Anyway, update I got yesterday is I gather that the reports of a done deal to Liverpool are wide of the mark. However, it's certainly more likely that VVD will leave now than it was 7-10 days ago. But no deal has been agreed with any club. We are pursuing two transfer strategies. The first is no club meets the valuation and VvD stays and we sign one of the two players I've mentioned before. The second is we sell VVD and sign a high profile attacking player and I understand we've made moves to do that. I haven't been told any names. Would still sign the other player and then look to send an attacking player out on loan. There's a little more information I have but can't share it yet. Expect another update later today. so, we sell VvD and no one comes in to replace him then?
ErwinK1961 Posted 29 August, 2017 Posted 29 August, 2017 so, we sell VvD and no one comes in to replace him then? Congratulations on interpreting that from what he said.
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