niceandfriendly Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 We need to take care of Tom28. He's like our local priest. He's our gateway to God. Ok so he's not up in heaven with the bearded fella but he's clearly got his Whatsapp. Tom28 we admire you, we respect you, you are everything to us.
alpine_saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Laughable Twitter rumour: Arsenal bid £50m+ Ox. So laughable I'd post to gauge opinion because I'd probably take it. I'd bite their arm off
Give it to Ron Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk More Chelsea rumours of meeting.
alpine_saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk More Chelsea rumours of meeting. The whining "its so unfair, they did the same as us" bin-dippers simply dont get it still. - Chelsea havent eviscerated our team in the last 2 summers. - There has been no major concerted media-onslaught from ex-Chelsea players - We, like everyone else in football, despise Liverpools self-obsession, blatant hypocrisy and sense of self-entitlement. - Chelsea are more likely to match our valuation
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I'd bite their arm off You probably would, big fella.
Highfield Saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Never understood why posters on here turn on their own fans in the way we do..... Keep posting Tom28 - You provide much more insight than the rest of us. Agree. Thanks Tom
wild-saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Author Posted 25 August, 2017 Happy that we get some information from him. I personally think this is the clubs way of keeping the fans informed of what is going without the need to give statements / to the press. Gives them a degree of deniability if things change.
Dan Johnson Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Keep posting Tom28 - You provide much more insight than the rest of us. Totally agree, I don't care whether he's "ITK" or not, i'd much rather read unsubstantiated\made up rumors over the incessant bickering\*****ing and moaning from the same old posters pushing the same old bull****! I'll choose whether I believe Tom28 or not and on balance he seems to have offered good insight thus far, I'll take everything i read on the internet with a pinch of salt anyway!
simo Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Happy that we get some information from him. I personally think this is the clubs way of keeping the fans informed of what is going without the need to give statements / to the press. Gives them a degree of deniability if things change. Kinda like a plant ?
LGTL Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 The **** needs to be sold, to anyone but Liverpool. I'm pretty sure this stance has been the same since May, and 154 pages of crap hasn't changed that.
angelman Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I would imagine his stance was like that from before May. Who knows what the injury was and when he had recovered from it? Not turning up to the end of season player's do tells me all that I need know.
LGTL Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I would imagine his stance was like that from before May. Who knows what the injury was and when he had recovered from it? Not turning up to the end of season player's do tells me all that I need know. Absolutely this. He carried on playing for 5 minutes after that original injury, and walked off the pitch. No way do I believe he's been injured ever since.
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Absolutely this. He carried on playing for 5 minutes after that original injury, and walked off the pitch. No way do I believe he's been injured ever since. From the player's perspective clamouring for a move, he has absolutely zero interest in pretending that he he is more injured than he is.
DistantSaint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I must admit I enjoy Tom28's posts as at least it provides some kind of insight, and he has been right most of the time. Unfortunately on here, it seems that if something is posted that someone doesn't like, the first course of action is to shout them down and call them a liar. Suppose that is just a reflection of society though. Keep going Tom28 and if you do turn out to be a WUM, guess what, my life will not be ruined.
aintforever Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 The problem is if someone is a bit ITK then you always get some nobbers on here who get jealous and jump on them.
Batman Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 The problem is if someone is a bit ITK then you always get some nobbers on here who get jealous and jump on them. MLG is usually a prime example of this. You can tell he is very jealous that others are ITK
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 MLG is usually a prime example of this. You can tell he is very jealous that others are ITK He's still dining off his Jack Stephens scoop, though some have suggested the news was already in the public domain.
Ashby Saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 MLG is usually a prime example of this. You can tell he is very jealous that others are ITK Some people on here really need to look at themselves in the mirror.
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 (edited) The problem is if someone is a bit ITK then you always get some nobbers on here who get jealous and jump on them. The WUM ITKers are infinitely bigger nobbers than anyone who is mildly sceptical. Jealousy often has little to do with it. Absolutely right to call them out. Perhaps you're just a patsy who laps up any old ****. Edited 25 August, 2017 by shurlock
OldNick Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 The jealousy of some posters on here is remarkable. Everyone seems to want to be the ITK poster. So far Tom28 has been pretty consistent and so lets not chase him away
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 The jealousy of some posters on here is remarkable. Everyone seems to want to be the ITK poster. So far Tom28 has been pretty consistent and so lets not chase him away Who's chasing him away pal?
OldNick Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Who's chasing him away pal? I suggest that someone who comes on to impart some info with fellow fans and then constantly being called on the lines of a liar or fantasist, is enough for them to not bother.
wild-saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Author Posted 25 August, 2017 Kinda like a plant ? k well yes i guess so. Clearly he is being told what he can put on the forum to get a direct feed to saints fans. It wouldn't take too much of an effort by the club to find out who is leaking this level of information assuming its accurate and its not authorised. I have a friend who works at the club and has access to high level information but they never tell us anything (well almost nothing).
angelman Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I am quite enjoying the Daily Express and its daily wheeling out of some ex-pro. Maybe we should have a sweep-stake as to which ex-pro advocating a move to Liverpool they trot out next!! Had some seriously bizarre ones. Anyway, today, we have John Aldridge being wheeled out again. It is interesting that they aren't accepting comments on that article. Can't imagine why!! http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/845598/Liverpool-transfer-news-Virgil-van-Dijk-Southampton-John-Aldridge Their other story today is Arsenal about to sign him for £50m. Still, there is time for a few more stories to be trotted out. There's usually more than 1 or 2 a day. I think the most I saw in one day was 6.
Charlie Wayman Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Would you sell your body for £100 the girl was asked, get lost replied the girl, Ok how about £50,000, that's more like it, right let's say £200 for cash, what do you think I am, We know what you are, we are just haggling about the price. If the club takes the money instead of putting this arsehole back in his box and with it sending a message to football that's just about what they are. I loved him as a player but if he never played for us again it would be worthwhile to stop this in it's tracks. There could be trouble (for you!) ahead...
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 (edited) k well yes i guess so. Clearly he is being told what he can put on the forum to get a direct feed to saints fans. It wouldn't take too much of an effort by the club to find out who is leaking this level of information assuming its accurate and its not authorised. I have a friend who works at the club and has access to high level information but they never tell us anything (well almost nothing). But this place is dead skin on the body of the saints community. It's basically irrelevant and serves no useful function. Edited 25 August, 2017 by shurlock
Secret Site Agent Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Dear Tom28 Keep on posting. Been where you are for a small amount of time, and worried I had cost someone their job, so keep it on the QT and protect your source. Dear Everyone else. If you don't believe Tom28, then please carry on not believing him, but don't try and convince the rest of us by snide, sniping comments, as these are not fact and, in you opionion, doesn't carry any weight. We don't care, we don't want to know,we're not interested in name calling and belittling. For any that believe he is making it up and can prove this, please do so. For those that believe, good for you. Generally, a good hearty debate is what we want, with facts and informed comment. The 'liar,liar pants on fire' defense doesn't carry much credence here. Now, back to the squabbling
Wimborne_saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 - Probably just on a wind up but who knows
brett24 Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Seems to be more than normal LFC fans saying it's done today. Will be fuming if we sell to Liverpool especially after Ralph's comments about a week ago.
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Seems to be more than normal LFC fans saying it's done today. Will be fuming if we sell to Liverpool especially after Ralph's comments about a week ago. Who else is reporting it?
Window Cleaner Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Seems to be more than normal LFC fans saying it's done today. Will be fuming if we sell to Liverpool especially after Ralph's comments about a week ago. I'd never, ever set too much store on whatever Krueger may be saying or not saying. He is just a verbal machine that just has to spout something or other for all occasions. If those who really matter at the club suspect than Van Dijk will in fact not play for us this half season, then they'll sell him, no matter what Kueger might have said.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Absolutely this. He carried on playing for 5 minutes after that original injury, and walked off the pitch. No way do I believe he's been injured ever since. He was injured. However, I was told by a decent source that the medical team were "surprised" he hadn't recovered for the last 3 or 4 games of the season. Of course it was shot down when I posted that weeks ago, but it makes sense to me. 3 games out,nothing to play for & thinking Liverpool was a done deal, why risk that by playing? He's shown he's that type of bloke. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
View From The Top Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 We all know he's a sh_it bloke but we cannot set the precedence by selling him.
Shance Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 If you don't believe Tom then ignore him. I personally like reading his info.
OttawaSaint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Absolutely this. He carried on playing for 5 minutes after that original injury, and walked off the pitch. No way do I believe he's been injured ever since. Doesn't mean he wasn't badly injured. I've had a few and been able to run them off for a few minutes because the adrenaline and enkephalins (natural pain relievers) released following the injury will help a little. After you have walked or even jogged off those chemicals return to baseline levels and tissue inflammation really starts to kick in. I've jogged off the field injured and then barely been able to walk after the game is over and spent months rehabbing an injury.
SKD Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 We all know he's a sh_it bloke but we cannot set the precedence by selling him. I agree but are we then cutting off our nose to spite our face? We clearly need to add quality to our squad, especially in the forward area's and £50/£60m would help us do that. Let's be honest, it's very likely that key players (I'm thinking Bertrand and Cedric in particular) will both leave next season anyhow, is it worth keeping VvD with the u23's for a season just to prove a point? After all, any player could just do the same and refuse to play next year, regardless if we sell VvD or not. For me, as long as we don't sell to Liverpool (for the pure fact that they are, simply put a bunch of c*nts [fans and staff]), I think it is best just to admit defeat (we will take the moral victory in that he's not going to preferred destination i.e he goes on our terms to where we want) and take a lot of money for a player that is either not going to play, or play and not be arsed.
East Kent Saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Not forgetting the goal keeper with a broken neck (Troutman?) NO not Fraser !
farawaysaint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I agree but are we then cutting off our nose to spite our face? We clearly need to add quality to our squad, especially in the forward area's and £50/£60m would help us do that. Let's be honest, it's very likely that key players (I'm thinking Bertrand and Cedric in particular) will both leave next season anyhow, is it worth keeping VvD with the u23's for a season just to prove a point? After all, any player could just do the same and refuse to play next year, regardless if we sell VvD or not. For me, as long as we don't sell to Liverpool (for the pure fact that they are, simply put a bunch of c*nts [fans and staff]), I think it is best just to admit defeat (we will take the moral victory in that he's not going to preferred destination i.e he goes on our terms to where we want) and take a lot of money for a player that is either not going to play, or play and not be arsed. It is too late to find a replacement, money is no help. He can rot.
angelman Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Doesn't mean he wasn't badly injured. I've had a few and been able to run them off for a few minutes because the adrenaline and enkephalins (natural pain relievers) released following the injury will help a little. After you have walked or even jogged off those chemicals return to baseline levels and tissue inflammation really starts to kick in. I've jogged off the field injured and then barely been able to walk after the game is over and spent months rehabbing an injury. Agree. I fractured my wrist and carried on using it for months. Ended up in a cast for 3 months and then having a general and a pin put in and more months recuperating. But similarly, while I don't want to believe Duckie and that he was possibly capable of playing the last 3 or 4 games, I can well imagine that there is something in it. After all, I come back to the ****ing appalling no show at the end of season do.
OttawaSaint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I agree but are we then cutting off our nose to spite our face? We clearly need to add quality to our squad, especially in the forward area's and £50/£60m would help us do that. Let's be honest, it's very likely that key players (I'm thinking Bertrand and Cedric in particular) will both leave next season anyhow, is it worth keeping VvD with the u23's for a season just to prove a point? After all, any player could just do the same and refuse to play next year, regardless if we sell VvD or not. For me, as long as we don't sell to Liverpool (for the pure fact that they are, simply put a bunch of c*nts [fans and staff]), I think it is best just to admit defeat (we will take the moral victory in that he's not going to preferred destination i.e he goes on our terms to where we want) and take a lot of money for a player that is either not going to play, or play and not be arsed. We can hold on to him without letting him rot. After Sept 1st he can either 1) refuse to play, 2) get back training and try and win his spot back. Then we sell next summer. That way, we don't get seen as a pushover and a player will have to decide what they want to do to get their move elsewhere when it is fine by us.
Ohio Saint Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I think we really do need to prove a point with VVD. Not just as a message to other clubs, but to our own players who may renew long contracts for a bigger pay raise without the intention giving any kind of loyalty.
Shance Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Not forgetting the goal keeper with a broken neck (Troutman?) NO not Fraser ! Bert Trautman. Yashin once said he was the best keeper in the world.
benjii Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I'd tell him we will consider selling him at the end of whichever season he next gives us 100% effort. Seeing as he's already ****ed this season up for himself that will be summer 2019 earliest.
derry Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Bert Trautman. Yashin once said he was the best keeper in the world. Great goalkeeper, German paratrooper, Saints put five past him at Maine Road in FA Cup Jan 1960. Reeves 4 O'Brien. Terry Paine had the game of his life and turned the full back inside out, Cliff Seares I think.
Colinjb Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 I think we really do need to prove a point with VVD. Not just as a message to other clubs, but to our own players who may renew long contracts for a bigger pay raise without the intention giving any kind of loyalty. Absolutely. It's about more then just Virgil and the transfer fee, this is about our very integrity.
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Absolutely. It's about more then just Virgil and the transfer fee, this is about our very integrity.
AR-10 Posted 25 August, 2017 Posted 25 August, 2017 Tools on here. He's been pretty much bang on with the VVD stuff bar VVD being on Strike. He wasn't. But he was all over the transfer request by the looks of it, but the usual c***s are saying "lucky guess mate". Damned if you do damned if you don't. It's always a lucky guess or if it isn't that, it was in the papers already, if it isn't that someone else posted it first, if it isn't that anyone could have guessed it, if it isn't that, you're just making it up to fit a story, if it isn't that you're a liar/Fake Jack Schitt blah blah. Those posters are a bunch of Internet mugs who know F'all. Getting on the blokes back and he tipped the lot of you off. F** me. And before you say it.... I don't know Tom28 and I have nothing to gain. I'm only seeing this now because someone linked me to it that liverpool made a bid, don't know about that, but I do know the club are properly livid with Liverpool. And he defo ain't going there. Do whatever you like with that...shove it up your bumhole for all I care. I couldn't give a f***. Pure speculation I reckon he's going to Chelsea personally with Remy coming here.
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