CB Fry Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 They are playing the interview on 5live shortly. Just been on. We'll done Matty. I'm sure the club historian will be on here shortly saying it's just "slinging old mud" and reminding us that good old uncle Bob was acquitted and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 (edited) Le Tissier has said he was was uncomfortable when around was Higgins. Edited 6 December, 2016 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 At the time Higgins was operating there were some strong characters at The Dell. Lawrie Mac, Branfoot and Merrington plus some very experienced pro's!. I would have thought these men would have rooted Higgins out or at least got to hear about him?? I just hope some of the people that were there did not keep anything quiet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolman Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-38230154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 MLT seems to have been victim to passive paedophilia rather than active. Not a huge difference in my book, save for passive likely doesn't scar the victim as badly. Someone said earlier on on this thread, that the 70s and 80s were a little different, and I think that they were. I went to an all boy's boarding school, and the house master (who was gay) used to come around every night and check that everyone was OK. He used to stroke your leg while you were in bed. Now I found that pretty freaky, but it went on and while we all hated it, it seemed to be accepted and it went no further than that. I have a friend who went to another similar school who was raped by a teacher and ended up in hospital. How that teacher didn't go to prison is a mystery to me. The friend is a bit screwed in the head and an alcoholic. The whole lot of them should be sent to prison (general ward not the nonce ward) and get some big bull ***** to **** them up the **** before showing them a bit of rough justice, which if it ends up with them being killed, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 At the time Higgins was operating there were some strong characters at The Dell. Lawrie Mac, Branfoot and Merrington plus some very experienced pro's!. I would have thought these men would have rooted Higgins out or at least got to hear about him?? I just hope some of the people that were there did not keep anything quiet? One of those did root it out after hearing young lads talking about what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 One of those did root it out after hearing young lads talking about what was going on. I reckon Big Dave Merrington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolman Posted 6 December, 2016 Share Posted 6 December, 2016 Made the main TV news here in NZ showing part of MLTs interview and naming SFC as being implicated thanks to Higgins. Also said that QPR possibly involved too. How big is this going to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 I personally think the word 'interference' in the thread title should be changed to 'abuse' or better still 'sexual abuse'. The (alleged) perpetrators of these crimes don't deserve the courtesy of euphemism. It needs to be discussed honestly, clearly and directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Just been on. We'll done Matty. I'm sure the club historian will be on here shortly saying it's just "slinging old mud" and reminding us that good old uncle Bob was acquitted and everything. You really are quite an unpleasant person trying to be funny over an issue that is far from amusing. My point remains that as far as the present club is concerned none of these new revelations are suggesting Saints were in the wrong. It seems at the time of the court case many sat tight lipped with the result Higgins wriggled free (with the help of a deluded judge). Indeed some are still in denial ( Shearer), but back then the climate was different and to speak out was a tough ask. Now let's see how you twist this latest post into something snide and nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 I reckon Big Dave Merrington. He said on South today that he reported it to management but did not say who the person he reported it to, was. No doubt it will all come out idc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 As CB Fry has deliberately misinterpreted a previous post I made about Higgins and is even suggesting I have stuck up for him I would like to categorically state that is nowhere near my position. I sincerely hope he is prosecuted and if found guilty they throw away the key. At the present I still believe Saints as a football club did what they could under the circumstances they were faced with when the judge made his bewildering decision. They could only deal with what was public knowledge at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 You really are quite an unpleasant person trying to be funny over an issue that is far from amusing. My point remains that as far as the present club is concerned none of these new revelations are suggesting Saints were in the wrong. It seems at the time of the court case many sat tight lipped with the result Higgins wriggled free (with the help of a deluded judge). Indeed some are still in denial ( Shearer), but back then the climate was different and to speak out was a tough ask. Now let's see how you twist this latest post into something snide and nasty. Not trying to be funny. Just quoting you being dismissive ("just slinging old mud") and your pertinently pointing out that he was acquitted. You've changed your angle now and that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 I know!! Let's forget about the real issue of historic child abuse at the football club we all support and have a shît slinging contest instead, who cares about the real people who have suffered at the hands of at least one depraved perverted nonce..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 I know!! Let's forget about the real issue of historic child abuse at the football club we all support and have a shît slinging contest instead, who cares about the real people who have suffered at the hands of at least one depraved perverted nonce..... Well people have forgotten about it for the last 20 years so why haven't you brought this up before. There is a sickening stink of self-righteousness about so many of the twitterings on this site and in the press by people who have probably spent the last 20 years s******ing about it and have done absolutely nothing about following up Channel 4's revelations that long ago. The FA and the press should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves; they knew and did absolutely nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 For God's sake - why the f*** was half of a quite innocent word obliterated!? Presumably that ex-steel town in North Lincolnshire is going to have to be razed to the ground like Oradour-sur-Glane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Quite clearly the club didn't do all that they could. Quite clearly the FA didn't. Quite clearly people and society didn't. As more and more comes out, it seems obvious there were systematic failings to protect children in all institutions where they interacted with in the 80's. It's a complete disgrace. I'm glad there are more and suitable safeguards in place now, but the question has to be how did we as a society let this go on for so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Well people have forgotten about it for the last 20 years so why haven't you brought this up before. There is a sickening stink of self-righteousness about so many of the twitterings on this site and in the press by people who have probably spent the last 20 years s******ing about it and have done absolutely nothing about following up Channel 4's revelations that long ago. The FA and the press should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves; they knew and did absolutely nothing about it. Because I didn't know about it before Einstein! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 I think the positive news is that at least 2 new allegations have now been made that were not part of the 1992 trials. I highly suspect there will be more in that earlier timeframe of employment going back to late 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Former Celtic kitman confesses to sexual abuse: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/07/celtic-kitman-jim-mccafferty-confesses-sexual-abuse-football-club-1990s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 dave Kerri grin youth team coach back in the mid 80s and Higgins was a development officer with the club or was Higgins up to his tricks before then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Former Celtic kitman confesses to sexual abuse: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/07/celtic-kitman-jim-mccafferty-confesses-sexual-abuse-football-club-1990s At least the bastard is still alive to face justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Former Celtic kitman confesses to sexual abuse: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/07/celtic-kitman-jim-mccafferty-confesses-sexual-abuse-football-club-1990s What irritates me about this article is that it is all about him - "cleanse my soul" " haven't had a good nights sleep in ages" "I feel unburdened" Well f*cking bully for you, you sick f*ck - shame that all the poor sods you put through that experience wont be able to cast off the effects so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 The whole lot of them should be sent to prison (general ward not the nonce ward) and get some big bull ***** to **** them up the **** before showing them a bit of rough justice, which if it ends up with them being killed, so be it. These pedophiles are filth and should be punished severely, but why are you condoning that other rapists get to enjoy themselves and rape the pedos in prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 New allegation from Malta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Because I didn't know about it before Einstein! Then before commenting and giving your opinion do a little research so that your opinion can be 'informed' and then apply a little intelligence and thought to the subject so that your reaction can be a little less hysterical than that of e.g. The Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 7 December, 2016 Share Posted 7 December, 2016 Then before commenting and giving your opinion do a little research so that your opinion can be 'informed' and then apply a little intelligence and thought to the subject so that your reaction can be a little less hysterical than that of e.g. The Sun. Wow.., there I was trying to make the point that we should stick to the subject and not argue about petty points scoring (CB Fry and FF) and in flies 'Super Bellend' who begins doing exactly that.....I suggest you read my post again, think about it for a second and then go and have a lie down.....jeeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/14952527.Saints_facing_possible_legal_action_by_former_youth_players_who_claim_they_were_abused_at_the_club/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Wow.., there I was trying to make the point that we should stick to the subject and not argue about petty points scoring (CB Fry and FF) and in flies 'Super Bellend' who begins doing exactly that.....I suggest you read my post again, think about it for a second and then go and have a lie down.....jeeez! "nonce", "bellend" - you are clearly extremely erudite but appear to lack the intellect that often accompanies this. You have missed my point. From what we do know (and that is far from everything) Saints acted reasonably at the time; the law, the press and, particularly, the FA have let young players down. You admit to a lack of knowledge but that does not entitle you to fall back on the self-serving, self-righteous indignation shown by the less responsible members of the media. Hopefully age and experience will render you capable of a less-blinkered view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/14952527.Saints_facing_possible_legal_action_by_former_youth_players_who_claim_they_were_abused_at_the_club/ Fair enough. However, doesn't the 1992 not guilty court case somewhat complicate things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 The practices MLT described date back to at least the mid 1970's. I know because i was one of them. They were not limited to SFC signed up young players or "good" players. Many children invited to residential soccer camps under the saints umbrella suffered those practices at that time, football team mate friends who were there with me experiencing the same thing. The numbers of kids interfered with is huge. There were at least two coaches/staff involved. Southampton FC of today is an extremely laudable organization and parents should have no concerns about child welfare when in Saints care. In the middle/late seventies onwards I know that was not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Fair enough. However, doesn't the 1992 not guilty court case somewhat complicate things? Also like to know how a club that has changed hands many times since can be held accountable, surely the legal action should be directed towards the people in charge at that time , smells like a money spinner to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Also like to know how a club that has changed hands many times since can be held accountable, surely the legal action should be directed towards the people in charge at that time , smells like a money spinner to me ! Who can they sue? The company behind Southampton FC only came into existence when we came out of Admin. SLH and the other companies which came before it are all long since wound up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 So after the Daily Echo editor Ian Murray somewhat lambasted the 'trial by media' of Bob Higgins over a two page spread yesterday they are now splashing on players suing the club. You couldnt make it up That whole chelsea thing of paying money to a player was about a legal claim brought against them and settled and they got **** for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Who can they sue? The company behind Southampton FC only came into existence when we came out of Admin. SLH and the other companies which came before it are all long since wound up. I imagine this lot? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00053301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 8 December, 2016 Share Posted 8 December, 2016 Fair enough. However, doesn't the 1992 not guilty court case somewhat complicate things? I expect that expired time limits might cause a greater comp!ication unless he is still younger than 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 Bob Higgins charged with 65 counts of child sexual abuse - to appear in court on 20th July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 July, 2017 Share Posted 5 July, 2017 Bob Higgins charged with 65 counts of child sexual abuse - to appear in court on 20th July. Blimey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 July, 2018 Share Posted 23 July, 2018 Higgins found guilty on one count of indecently assaulting a young trainee, not guilty of another and no verdicts on 48 other counts https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44688435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 23 July, 2018 Share Posted 23 July, 2018 Please no discussion on the merits of live criminal cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 July, 2018 Share Posted 23 July, 2018 Yes, no noncesense please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 July, 2018 Share Posted 23 July, 2018 Bob Higgins has more genes in common with crabs than he does with you or me. Now that is a scientific fact - there's no real evidence for it - but it is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Found guilty of 45 counts of sexual assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Found guilty of 45 counts of sexual assault. I assume we can talk about it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 I assume we can talk about it now?I think we should wait to get the go ahead from the forum's very own Bob Higgins fan club. He was very clear we shouldn't rush to judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44682154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 I thought he was banged up for this years ago. Slow old process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Obviously a big shout out for Dave Merrington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 C*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 One of those did root it out after hearing young lads talking about what was going on. This was Merrington. I heard the minibus story years ago from one of the young players on the minibus when the lads were talking about Higgins behaviour. He told me that Merrington stopped the bus that day to find out what had been going on, and blew the whistle sharpish. Massive credit to him, and his actions led to Higgins resignation and stopped him abusing other lads at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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