Weekly points, positions and goals scored compared since return to PL

[Pass the Dutchie]

Instead of hijacking Minsk’s thread, I thought I’d start this new one for those of us who enjoy a graphic representation of our weekly progress in the league compared to previous seasons. Whenever I have the time I’ll try to post a weekly update of the three charts: number of points / PL position / number of goals scored.

 

Points after 12 games:

Edited 21 November, 2016 by Pass the Dutchie

[Pass the Dutchie]

Position after 12 games:

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Goals after 12 games:

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[Saint Garrett]

Yep, certainly feels like the worst league season in a good few years, been punching above our weight last few years. Not sure we have the goals in us to compete towards the top end as we have done the last few years. I guess we also have the impact of Europa league on our squad.

 

I'd take top of the bottom half, and a good cup run or two, certainly not worried about relegation....yet...

[Nordic Saint]

Yep, certainly feels like the worst league season in a good few years, been punching above our weight last few years. Not sure we have the goals in us to compete towards the top end as we have done the last few years. I guess we also have the impact of Europa league on our squad.

 

I'd take top of the bottom half, and a good cup run or two, certainly not worried about relegation....yet...

 

What is our weight? Our average position in our 40 seasons in the top flight is 11th and we get the 12th biggest gates in the country. An occasional foray into the top 8 is hardly punching above our weight. For our size, we are, along with Birmingham City, one of the the most underachieving teams in English football history in terms of trophies won and that seems to have conditioned some of our fans into thinking the club and its fan base are smaller than they really are.

[Pass the Dutchie]

Points after 13 games:

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Position after 13 games:

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Goals after 13 games:

[SuperSAINT]

Points after 13 games:

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When you take into account our struggle for goals, this is quite impressive IMO.

[Heisenberg]

Interesting...

 

Are you building the graphs yourself?

[Pass the Dutchie]

Interesting...

 

Are you building the graphs yourself?

 

Yes, I'm just keeping an Excel-sheet updated.

[Heisenberg]

Yes, I'm just keeping an Excel-sheet updated.

 

Excellent work

[SaintTex]

Yes, I'm just keeping an Excel-sheet updated.

Love all this! keep it going!

[Monkou]

Thats an excellent set of data, please keep it up.

 

I think most fans expected this year to be tougher, with the Europa league campaign and losing 2 quality strikers, but progress has been good and looking at the fixtures leading up to xmas there is no reason we should not be maintaining a nice steep gradient between now and then!

[Pass the Dutchie]

Points after 14 games:

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Position after 14 games:

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Goals after 14 games:

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This time of year obviously hasn't been kind to us these years.

[Saint86]

So basically a very disappointing start so far, especially given its on the back of our strongest ever finish in the prem and what many have called our best squad.

 

Given the massive revenues and profits we've made in recent years, there really is no excuse for going backwards.

[Wimborne_saint]

So basically a very disappointing start so far, especially given its on the back of our strongest ever finish in the prem and what many have called our best squad.

 

Given the massive revenues and profits we've made in recent years, there really is no excuse for going backwards.

 

Disappointing start yes, but wouldn't say there was no excuse for going backwards if we have at all. We've been playing more games which was bound to have some effect on our league form.

[trousers]

So basically a very disappointing start so far, especially given its on the back of our strongest ever finish in the prem and what many have called our best squad.

 

Given the massive revenues and profits we've made in recent years, there really is no excuse for going backwards.

If we get 7 points from the next 6 games then we'll be on a par with next season after 20 games. I wouldn't describe that as "going backwards" (assuming we get those 7 points from the 18 available of course )

[Heisenberg]

If we get 7 points from the next 6 games then we'll be on a par with next season after 20 games. I wouldn't describe that as "going backwards" (assuming we get those 7 points from the 18 available of course )

 

We could pick up 7 points from the next 6 and you'd be right we'd be on par with last season

 

Problem is we then went on a run of 6 wins in 7 games or something similar and after 26 games had 40 points

 

Are we going to equal or better this? I very much doubt it

[trousers]

We could pick up 7 points from the next 6 and you'd be right we'd be on par with last season

 

Problem is we then went on a run of 6 wins in 7 games or something similar and after 26 games had 40 points

 

Are we going to equal or better this?

 

Perhaps ask those insightful people that predicted we would get relegated based on our position after 20 games last season...

[Heisenberg]

Perhaps ask those insightful people that predicted we would get relegated based on our position after 20 games last season...

 

Dalek?

[trousers]

Dalek?

I said after 20 games of the season, not 20 minutes...

[nta786]

Perhaps ask those insightful people that predicted we would get relegated based on our position after 20 games last season...

 

Batman 100% did

[Batman]

Batman 100% did

 

rk was two games from the bullet according to the itk's

[verlaine1979]

If we get 7 points from the next 6 games then we'll be on a par with next season after 20 games. I wouldn't describe that as "going backwards" (assuming we get those 7 points from the 18 available of course )

 

True, though we won't have Mane this year to basically win the second half of the season for us by himself

[Pass the Dutchie]

This is starting to look better. Only the number of goals really stays behind.

 

Points after 15 games:

 

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Position after 15 games:

 

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Goals after 15 games:

 

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[trousers]

True, though we won't have Mane this year to basically win the second half of the season for us by himself

 

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[Pass the Dutchie]

I was away for a few weeks.

 

Points after 19 games:

 

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Position after 19 games:

 

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Goals after 19 games:

 

 

Same amount of points as last year this time, better position. Goals are obviously the main issue.

[nta786]

Cheers for the update, goals scored is awful, even Adkins with that 2012/13 squad managed more.

[Convict Colony]

Great thread Dutchie how have I just found this

[Pass the Dutchie]

Points after 20 games:

 

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Position after 20 games:

 

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Goals after 20 games:

 

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Sadly this is starting to look a little bleak by now.

 

Points after 21 games:

 

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Position after 21 games:

 

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Goals after 21 games:

 

[mrfahaji]

Just as a reference point (I was wondering so looked it up), Adkins left after 22 games, 22 points and goals for/against of 30-40.

[MarkSFC]

Position after 21 games:

 

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That's interesting, well done. What it tells me is that Koemans two seasons in terms of line shape was pretty similar (at least to this point) and that Pochettinos "shape" was fairly similar to Koemans (or other way round given timeline!). In the case of Puebla line there is a totally different overall shape emerging which has more frequent peak and troughs, which would back up a theory that the rotation is not working (which is obvious really) but is causing more differences in performance.

 

Keep up the good work, love stats, graphs!!

[Pass the Dutchie]

Thought this could also be interesting, so I'll add this from now on as well: goals conceded after 21 games:

 

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Points after 22 games:

 

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Position after 22 games:

 

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Goals scored after 22 games:

 

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Goals conceded after 22 games: