doddisalegend Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Slightly disappointed that at home we ended up a bit backs to the wall from the sounds of it. A reasonable point but a game we really needed to be winning if we are looking to emulate last season. We really need to be beating the league leaders to emulate last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Yeah LOL what a little devil!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Sounds like the new Ramirez? He clearly has talent, remember that Sunderland goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Fonte not happy in his interview, says we were poor and need to do better with the quality we have but says everyone worked hard ! Few fans on Rawk moaning we parked the bus , others asking them what they expect as they keep taking our best attacking players and having lost our last two league games we'd hardly go toe to toe with them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 He clearly has talent, remember that Sunderland goal? And that performance against Newcastle or was it Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Good result - Liverpool have been on fire and we ****ed on their bonfire. Everton were terrible at home their fans booed them of at half time, they only do that 18 times a season, so hopefully we can kill them next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Fonte interview superb. We were battered today. He said we were lucky. That was the old saints mentality today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Bit ott to day boufal was incredible with the ball. He had a few good touches and took up a couple of good positions and nearly gave a gaol away with a ridiculous pass to Firmino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Fonte not happy in his interview, says we were poor and need to do better with the quality we have but says everyone worked hard ! Few fans on Rawk moaning we parked the bus , others asking them what they expect as they keep taking our best attacking players and having lost our last two league games we'd hardly go toe to toe with them ! How come we could go toe to toe with them last season but out of the question this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 We are missing Pelle and Mane, no doubt about it. Yes, but its not just that, Even if they were still here we wouldnt be scoring enough due to the system Puel wants us to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 At least puel has pretty much ditched the diamond. Now just needs to stop moving Austin wide left or right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 How come we could go toe to toe with them last season but out of the question this season? We played for a draw at Anfield, got hammered 6-1 at home in the cup and were complete turd against then for 60 minutes at home in the league last season, they are a better team this season then they were last to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Boufal has to do a lot more than now and again beating a few players going nowhere. What sums him up for me, when Austin had a brilliant first touch and was forced wide desperately looking for a Saints player, the nearest, Boufal hadn't even bothered to make a run into the penalty area. This summed up what is wrong with Saints attacking. Only Austin makes the runs and effort, neither Boufal or Redmond make runs in support. I can accept that Long didn't have 90 minutes in him but Rodriguez, Long and Austin look a much more powerful attack as we looked much better with only two of them on the field. They will try and get into the box and compete with defenders, without that we are just powderpuff. We were one light in midfield with backs to the wall. Davis is not a player that competes physically, I felt that a midfield of Hoijbjerg, Romeu and Reed would have been more competitive and might have made it a lot more difficult. The team was too lightweight and needs to be physically more imposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in NZ Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 This was a good result. I'm sure everyone would have taken it before the game started. Agree with all those that lament the shocker at Hull. If we had taken three points there, I'm sure most would be very happy at the Saints' position. No attacking intent shown today so there were never going to be any goals scored. Still lacking a really potent striker though. Charlie looked like a cart-horse. This has to be addressed in the transfer window if the club is serious about improving on mid-table mediocrity (or relegation concerns) let alone progressing in any other competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 We really need to be beating the league leaders to emulate last season? I'd argue we need to be much more on front foot at home against anyone including the top teams if we have ambitions of repeating recent league positions. Very glad Fonte is unhappy at scrapping a draw against an on form but certainly not unbeatable liverpool side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 First game at SMS that I have seen us play for a draw. Whilst we played very well defensively we set up like an away team. Thought we could have taken the game to them a bit more positively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 I thought we were crap, never really looked like scoring or even creating, so fantastic result all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 First game at SMS that I have seen us play for a draw. Whilst we played very well defensively we set up like an away team. Thought we could have taken the game to them a bit more positively Good effort from the manager considering what he available to him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 I'm not so sure the game plan was to sit back and play for a draw. I think Saints just didn't have the same quality in midfield that Liverpool has. As a consequence, Saints never created a platform from which to create chances. I also thought Liverpool were really good when they didn't have the ball, closing down quickly and turning us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 At least puel has pretty much ditched the diamond. Now just needs to stop moving Austin wide left or right We're playing the same way we have all season. Boufal has to do a lot more than now and again beating a few players going nowhere. What sums him up for me, when Austin had a brilliant first touch and was forced wide desperately looking for a Saints player, the nearest, Boufal hadn't even bothered to make a run into the penalty area. This summed up what is wrong with Saints attacking. Only Austin makes the runs and effort, neither Boufal or Redmond make runs in support. I can accept that Long didn't have 90 minutes in him but Rodriguez, Long and Austin look a much more powerful attack as we looked much better with only two of them on the field. They will try and get into the box and compete with defenders, without that we are just powderpuff. I know what incident you're on about and Boufal was being held back for a long time whilst trying to get into the box. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 I remember a time when we would have taken the positives, not got too high, not got too low, drawn a blue line under it and moved on. Forster's best game of the season Bertrand's best game of the season Cedric's best game of the season Long looked fit and quick Clean sheet against the free-scoring league leaders Boufal looks like he could be a player that gets bums off of seats We've played Utd/City/Arse/Dippers, we now have a run of games against teams around us and below us, hopefully we will pick up enough points to keep station in mid-table and progress in Europa. Hard to get excited about watching us park the bus at home but I'll cut Puel some slack, he really lacks a cutting edge so suicide to go toe to toe with Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 That was a horrible watch in horrible weather, pleased with the point but disappointed when we had the ball on the counter we didn't do anything, there were opportunities to shoot and we didn't. Couple of neat tricks from boufal, looked like he was trying too hard as he's the new boy, similar to mane when he joined. He will come good but feel we need another striker, thought Austin was poor today but as he had a new baby a few days ago it's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Solid defensive performance Clattenburg putting in a predictable performance, summed when he thought he was at Twickenham with the first half advantage he played in Liverpools favour, VVD defends well............. "Here you go boys have another go at that from here". Highlight might well be the sparkly new PA speakers dangling from the roof........... Pitch perfect audio for the first time since the Stadium opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Did I see a little bit of magic footwork from Jrod close to the end? Couple of tricks and went past 2 or 3 players? Light at the end of the tunnel perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Did I see a little bit of magic footwork from Jrod close to the end? Couple of tricks and went past 2 or 3 players? Light at the end of the tunnel perhaps... Yep. He showed some good strength and nice footwork. Encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Solid defensive performance Clattenburg putting in a predictable performance, summed when he thought he was at Twickenham with the first half advantage he played in Liverpools favour, VVD defends well............. "Here you go boys have another go at that from here". Highlight might well be the sparkly new PA speakers dangling from the roof........... Pitch perfect audio for the first time since the Stadium opened. That was disgusting. Once you've given advantage and they eff it up then it's their problem. Calling it back was awful reffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 19 November, 2016 Share Posted 19 November, 2016 Good point, unlike Hull City. That result still hurts a lot. Still need to make up for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 (edited) I thought we were dominated and only got a point due to their poor finishing. They had 4 or 5 great chances and we only created 1. Lucky. We are so boring to watch Edited 20 November, 2016 by Verbal Kint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 That advantage decision from Clattenberg was disgraceful, how he had the audacity to do that God only knows. Interesting stat on MOTD, first time since 2004 we have failed to register a **** on target, presuming they mean the Premier League. Just strange to see how we were the team taking our time for throw ins and free kicks etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 I thought we were dominated and only got a point due to their poor finishing. They had 4 or 5 great chances and we only created 1. Lucky. We are so boring to watch what goes around comes around we've had several games this season when we've been the better team and come away with nothing (or only a point) nice to have the boot on the other foot once in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 A great hard fought draw, with a bit of luck that 'pool were as inaccurate as we are these days. Well done fellers. Special mentions for VVD and Forster. We were better upfront when Long came on..And a mention for some skilful touches from JayRod at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Still yet to see that Puel pressing that was talked about when he was appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 At the end of the day a point and a clean sheet against the in form team is a decent result. However we never really threatened them and never looked like taking a shot let alone a goal. We seriously lack creativity and goal threat and that will catch up with us eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Still yet to see that Puel pressing that was talked about when he was appointed. Hoping for the high speed counter attacking with seamless defence as well . I miss the last few seasons where we were more effective than Liverpool. Sadly we have gone backwards as much as they have gone forwards . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 There has been a lot of praise for Puel on here but I don't see how he's playing to the players' strengths. Austin thrives on crosses into the box but we don't play with enough width, Redmond is being played out of position and not showing signs of adapting, Tadic has been taken away from the left where he has been most effective and we continue to play with 3 midfielders without any attacking threat whatsoever. It's not surprising we are struggling to score goals. .............Forster Cedric Fonte VVD Bertrand ......Hojbjerg Romeu Redmond Boufal Tadic .............Austin I hope we see that team at some point in that formation and start using Austin and Long tactically depending on the opposition. We are rock solid defensively but we have to start showing more attacking intent if we want to get near the top 8 in May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 And who do you propose we start with instead? Messi? Utterly utterly clueless. Clearly has never actually been to a home game in years, if ever What a silly reply. I like Redmond, but he does need to be dropped the way he's playing. Yesterday was his worst game in a Saints shirt, everything he touched either went out of play or straight to a Liverpool player. Davey boy Davey boy you've made a stinker there son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 (edited) Still yet to see that Puel pressing that was talked about when he was appointed. We do press. It's just our defence pressing against our own penalty area. We've been blessed over the last few years with managers who like to attack, play expansive football and win games, it was only a matter of time before we got one who despises those things. Edited 20 November, 2016 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Fonte interview superb. We were battered today. He said we were lucky. That was the old saints mentality today. Fonte the betwetter then according to this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Don't care how we did it, not losing to the bindippers a good result. Possibly a bit of luck involved with them missing some sitters but at least we didn't gift them anything. I'm not worried about the lack of opportunities at the other end - the goals will come. The team defended against a very aggressive attack today and didn't concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Stand Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 That was the most one sided draw I have ever seen!! We were very lucky to get a point!! Clattenberg was his usual stupid self!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Boufal has to do a lot more than now and again beating a few players going nowhere. What sums him up for me, when Austin had a brilliant first touch and was forced wide desperately looking for a Saints player, the nearest, Boufal hadn't even bothered to make a run into the penalty area. This summed up what is wrong with Saints attacking. Only Austin makes the runs and effort, neither Boufal or Redmond make runs in support. I can accept that Long didn't have 90 minutes in him but Rodriguez, Long and Austin look a much more powerful attack as we looked much better with only two of them on the field. They will try and get into the box and compete with defenders, without that we are just powderpuff. We were one light in midfield with backs to the wall. Davis is not a player that competes physically, I felt that a midfield of Hoijbjerg, Romeu and Reed would have been more competitive and might have made it a lot more difficult. The team was too lightweight and needs to be physically more imposing. Puel clearly wanted us to keep bodies back. You could see Davis and Hojbjerg holding back and Fonte/Van Dijk, when they could, taking responsibility for pushing forward and trying to get a couple of bodies with them. That said, their interview made it clear that we wanted to get on the ball more. Don't know how much of that backs-to-the-wall mentality was planned. Don't care how we did it, not losing to the bindippers a good result. Possibly a bit of luck involved with them missing some sitters but at least we didn't gift them anything. I'm not worried about the lack of opportunities at the other end - the goals will come. The team defended against a very aggressive attack today and didn't concede. I don't know, some of their chances did come from our mistakes. We rode our luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 what goes around comes around we've had several games this season when we've been the better team and come away with nothing (or only a point) nice to have the boot on the other foot once in a while Fonte does not agree with you though . Is he a bed wetter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Fonte does not agree with you though . Is he a bed wetter? Where does doddisalegend reference bedwetting? Bizarre. Personally agree that it is quite nice that the team who had all the chances, didn't take one and then dropped points is not us for a change. We gained a decent point so happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 (edited) Don't care how we did it, not losing to the bindippers a good result. Possibly a bit of luck involved with them missing some sitters but at least we didn't gift them anything. I'm not worried about the lack of opportunities at the other end - the goals will come. The team defended against a very aggressive attack today and didn't concede. Good post biscuits, it was a tough, tough game, yes we had some luck but they only had 2 shots on target as we defended well. The majority on here predicted a mauling so a decent result all things considered Edited 20 November, 2016 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Great character to get a draw, but we really are blunt up front. Desperately need a new striker. Any idea who ? Not a striker but a loan AM - HBA 18 goals for nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Great character to get a draw, but we really are blunt up front. Desperately need a new striker. Any idea who ? Brendan is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 The draw is a good result and they could easily have battered us, in that respect the game plan worked. What concerns me is the lack of confidence to go forward, had they scored a goal, we didn't really look like creating anything. Okay you could argue we may have changed our game plan but it did feel a bit negative to play that way at home. Liverpool will beat a lot better teams than us away from home this season, but worse teams will give them a game, gamble a bit more going forward and maybe even get a win! If Redmond could back up his arrogance and small talk on the pitch with better performances, that would be great too. Hopefully Long will give us something extra. Would hate to be a striker in this team atm, you have to feel for Austin a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 If Redmond could back up his arrogance and small talk on the pitch with better performances, that would be great too. Stuff like this shows that media pundits are worth paying - they know how good Redmond is and a lot of us don't. He was pretty poor going forward last night but so was everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Stuff like this shows that media pundits are worth paying - they know how good Redmond is and a lot of us don't. He was pretty poor going forward last night but so was everyone. I think he is a good player, but just want him to be more consistent. Okay circumstances of playing against Chelsea and Liverpool may not have played to his strengths, but to be a really good player, sometimes you need to be able to make a bigger impact in those games in order to change the direction in which it is going. However agree, the whole team struggled going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 (edited) Fonte does not agree with you though . Is he a bed wetter? Did I say anyone was bed wetting I'm merely pointing out that we've had plenty of games were we haven't got what we deserved this time we got something despite being second best and we could easily have been humped on another day. I'm happy about that but if you and Jose want to be upset about it that's up to you. Edited 20 November, 2016 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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