Ohio Saint Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 OK, I gave in and panicked about him when he arrived. NOW I am totally sold on him. Please direct me to the correct thread for this conversation and delete this one or contribute. It seems to me, that if we can hold onto him, he will deliver a master class in man management. I have never seen such a quick turn around in player attitude and commitment. Something is going right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 wholeheartedly agreed. Players seem to be fond, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 Glasgow - you have a PM pal. Come to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 wholeheartedly agreed. Players seem to be fond, too. I remember reading all sorts of garbage online about how he'd lost the dressing room, the players hated his tactics etc etc. As usual the people writing him off after a few games have been proved to be nothing more than jumped up reactionary morons. Another inspired managerial choice by Sir Les Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 It's going to be sad when our new Chinese owner replaces him with Fabio Capello...... ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 I tend to just read this forum when there is no football during the summers. The fear of change and the unknown is prevalent with the forum monopolised by those with little trust in LR or the board , despite a decent track record suggesting otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 Puel is doing ok. His player rotation is working very well and we are excellent from defence up to the final quarter. We just aren't scoring enough goals despite one of the highest attempts in the Premiership. We only have a goal difference of one, which is not great for a top half club. So, for me, the jury has still to be out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 I remember reading all sorts of garbage online about how he'd lost the dressing room, the players hated his tactics etc etc. As usual the people writing him off after a few games have been proved to be nothing more than jumped up reactionary morons. Another inspired managerial choice by Sir Les Reed. I was one of the people who posted about that, and the reason I did was because it was true. Maybe the reason the players weren't happy was because they weren't used to it, and until we starting winning (which we duly did against Swansea), also weren't seeing the results from it. I didn't write Puel off, but passed on information that I had and said that it concerned me, and that I hoped we would turn things round. I recall some people just slagging me off at the time, but I had no agenda against the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 Puel is doing ok. His player rotation is working very well and we are excellent from defence up to the final quarter. We just aren't scoring enough goals despite one of the highest attempts in the Premiership. We only have a goal difference of one, which is not great for a top half club. So, for me, the jury has still to be out. Actually you quite regularly see teams in the top half (outside the top 6) with goal differences close to or even below 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Forest Steve Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 I was one of the people who posted about that, and the reason I did was because it was true. Maybe the reason the players weren't happy was because they weren't used to it, and until we starting winning (which we duly did against Swansea), also weren't seeing the results from it. I didn't write Puel off, but passed on information that I had and said that it concerned me, and that I hoped we would turn things round. I recall some people just slagging me off at the time, but I had no agenda against the manager. People weren't really slagging you off, just disagreeing with your premature stressing that everything was going to fall apart this season. .... and how are things looking now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 5 November, 2016 Share Posted 5 November, 2016 Puel is doing ok. His player rotation is working very well and we are excellent from defence up to the final quarter. We just aren't scoring enough goals despite one of the highest attempts in the Premiership. We only have a goal difference of one, which is not great for a top half club. So, for me, the jury has still to be out. Errr - we have 7th best goal difference in the prem, but lie 10th on points..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 To early to pass judgement either way. As with any and all managers they deserve a season (minimum) first Guess this is the want-it-now MTV generation that rate and judge managers after a few weeks/month My early season summary is mixed - slow/poor start followed by a superb September followed by relatively poor October. November has started well and I'd like to see 3 wins from next 4 games (minimum) COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 To early to pass judgement either way. As with any and all managers they deserve a season (minimum) first Guess this is the want-it-now MTV generation that rate and judge managers after a few weeks/month My early season summary is mixed - slow/poor start followed by a superb September followed by relatively poor October. November has started well and I'd like to see 3 wins from next 4 games (minimum) COYR How do you think we have changed from the first game of the season up until now? Can you get a decent perspective from tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 And it's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 People weren't really slagging you off, just disagreeing with your premature stressing that everything was going to fall apart this season. .... and how are things looking now ? New Forest Steve, your words to me were "Mr Fahaji, you are an idiot"! And the extent of my stressing was "My main concern is that the players lose interest but the club are too stubborn to get a different manager in, then we really are in trouble. A win might help lift the mood and general commitment in the camp." I don't think that's OTT given that I had the info the players weren't happy (I wasn't guessing), and we had two points from our first four games. Most of my concern was a "if things don't improve soon" take. Obviously we won at Swansea and from then we haven't looked back. By the same token, I was extremely concerned about the way we were playing last Christmas - I wondered whether we would ever get another point! It didn't mean I thought Koeman was rubbish, or that we should sack him, but obviously we couldn't have continued to perform like that for weeks and months. Again, we turned it round and any worries in hindsight looked silly, but most people will recall just how dreadful that period of time was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 I'm not sure you get to see a manager's tendencies until after about 12-15 games. He has to get to know his players while working around injuries and international breaks while coming into a new country. He's trying to see what combination of players in what positions in what formations best suit his personnel. Puel was successful in the past at each club he managed so there would be no reason to believe he was unqualified or inept. I'm quite encouraged by what I have seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 Like him loads now, still a long way to go yet mates but very promising so far. Loving the Saints again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 Puel is doing ok. His player rotation is working very well and we are excellent from defence up to the final quarter. We just aren't scoring enough goals despite one of the highest attempts in the Premiership. We only have a goal difference of one, which is not great for a top half club. So, for me, the jury has still to be out. Factor in that our 5 away league games have been against clubs that finished in the top 7 last season. Today's game is an important one towards getting more points (and goals!!) and working our way up the table. We have had a fair few injury issues, key players not with us in most of the pre season, barely a week without a midweek game or most of the squad away on poxy International service to contend with, whilst trying to integrate a new style of football, which seemed alien to some of players and maybe too rigidly imposed at the start. But now we are seeing some wonderful football and a huge number of goal attempts per, once it all clicks into place and we convert more things will look even rosier. To be where we are after losing the fire power and creativity of Pelle, Mane and to all intents and purposes so far Shane Long is really quite an amaxing feat. Well done to all of those who have stepped up to the plate and done so well. Puel has to take much of the credit. #wemarchon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 In a short space of time Puel has done excellent work. I don't share any criticism aimed at Puel for our lack of finishing. This comes down to the players. Puel will be working extremely hard on the training pitch to improve the players, but finishing is an art and very much down to confidence. The players must take the responsibility. The quality of finishing will improve with player improvement and this takes time. Redmond will be playing for England shortly, along with JWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 Knee jerk and bedwetting just like it has been most summers in recent years. It will all start again same time next year with the first player sold. And repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 I was right and had faith. Hopeless trying to expect any sense from the bedwetters. They are only one defeat away from 'the bubble is well and truly burst' Could make an interesting study( or not) on how they are impervious to any information to counter their claims and don't even have any obvious shame or embarrassment. Simple to dismiss as trolls but I think psychologically damaged souls who can't cope with joy, Don't think too many normal supporters were so quick to panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 My mum is a steward at SMS, last week when he arrived he said good morning to all the stewards that were there individually and shook all their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 My mum is a steward at SMS, last week when he arrived he said good morning to all the stewards that were there individually and shook all their hands. He shook both their left and right hands? What's the hell is up with the man? Sounds like a proper nutter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 November, 2016 Share Posted 6 November, 2016 OK, I gave in and panicked about him when he arrived. NOW I am totally sold on him. Please direct me to the correct thread for this conversation and delete this one or contribute. It seems to me, that if we can hold onto him, he will deliver a master class in man management. I have never seen such a quick turn around in player attitude and commitment. Something is going right. I think it's ''brave'' that you start a thread with this headline, especially when there are others on this site who defend their wrong decisions to the death with poor excuses/dodgy explanations. Some people see no further than the last game ...or the next match. As memory serves; even Nigel Adkins, along with Pochettino and Koeman didn't start their tenure as manager with fantastic results but in the longer term showed their strengths and qualities. Puel is a new manager with a new system - and it takes time to adapt. to a new manager / new system, and a lot of us were disappointed in our weak start to the season. I was over to see the opening game v. Watford, when a lot of things hadn't sunk in and we looked a bit shambolic especially when we had so many shots, with little reward. A manager can devise all sorts of formulas and solutions, for good play and good build up but it's down to the player(s) who actually shoots on goal to get results, the manager has no control whatsoever. After more than 55 years as a Saints fan..(and there are a lot more in my generation) I tend not to take a serious look at the table before about game 6 or 7, and think managers need a lot longer than that to establish themselves. Puel has brought a lot of expertise to the club and it's taking a bit of time for that to sink in. Despite the exodus of players and managerial changes there is still a firm basis at the club to build on.....and we don't yet know what Puel may prove to us by the end of the season. The willingness to bring our Academy players into the first team squad (and give them game time) shows a lot of foresight when you consider that many of these lads have spent the last 10 years with Saints - even if it was at Youth level. It takes patience for a coach to mould a team as he wants it to be, and patience from fans whilst he's trying to achieve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 May, 2017 Share Posted 2 May, 2017 To early to pass judgement either way. As with any and all managers they deserve a season (minimum) first This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 May, 2017 Share Posted 2 May, 2017 This 9.3/10 #MTVgeneration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 This No, Heisenberg is NOT a hypocrite, at all, definitely not, how dare you suggest such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 No, Heisenberg is NOT a hypocrite, at all, definitely not, how dare you suggest such a thing. To be fair, the season is almost over and it's not unreasonable to form a judgement, either way, on Puel now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 Thank you for highlighting this post. Patience, no knee jerk, get the facts and then base an opinion. A lesson for a few on here. Still agree he should see out the season. 6pm 21st May would seem a sensible time to part ways. Hope you enjoyed reading all my posts apologies this was best you found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 Textbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 Thank you for highlighting this post. Patience, no knee jerk, get the facts and then base an opinion. A lesson for a few on here. Still agree he should see out the season. 6pm 21st May would seem a sensible time to part ways. Hope you enjoyed reading all my posts apologies this was best you found. But if he is to leave at that point then the players should be privately informed or their agents will be working overtime for the next three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 But if he is to leave at that point then the players should be privately informed or their agents will be working overtime for the next three weeks. If this is the case, they may as well sack him now.... If the players dont perform for him thinking he may be their manager next year, what will they do if they know he won't...? Also, i'm sure agents talk and players, if they find out Puel's going, he will find out. A silly suggestion, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 If this is the case, they may as well sack him now.... If the players dont perform for him thinking he may be their manager next year, what will they do if they know he won't...? Also, i'm sure agents talk and players, if they find out Puel's going, he will find out. A silly suggestion, really. To be fair it's happened plenty of times. Recent high profile one was Man City last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2017 Share Posted 3 May, 2017 But if he is to leave at that point then the players should be privately informed or their agents will be working overtime for the next three weeks. That will be happening regardless it has very little to do with the manager and much more to do with there being bigger more attractive clubs out there. Do people really think that Bertrand, for example, is going tell Man city to get lost because the board have sacked Puel and brought in Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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