californiasaint Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 If you build it they will come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 20 November, 2016 Share Posted 20 November, 2016 Its fine mate , Always Sfc seems to get free reign to act as the forum police . The moderators on here do an utterly terrible job of moderating . Its one rule for the self important knob and another for everyone else Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Thanks Kermit for the vote of support, checked my email and can't find any posts you have reported. Anyway, I came on this thread to see if there had been any interesting news on takeover. I will now spend later this evening deleting anything that isn't related to the topic. Think we might be at about 3 pages by the time I finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Thanks Kermit for the vote of support, checked my email and can't find any posts you have reported. Anyway, I came on this thread to see if there had been any interesting news on takeover. I will now spend later this evening deleting anything that isn't related to the topic. Think we might be at about 3 pages by the time I finish. There is little point emailing anyone . Anyone who spends any time on here is aware of the abuse Always dishes out to anyone he disagrees with even though the forum rules are against it . If mods were serious about moderating then someone would have had a word ages ago . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 There is little point emailing anyone . Anyone who spends any time on here is aware of the abuse Always dishes out to anyone he disagrees with even though the forum rules are against it . If mods were serious about moderating then someone would have had a word ages ago . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk you and Always SFC are as bad as one another. It's like you to seek each other out on every bloody topic. Why you cant just put each other on ignore I have no idea. Also you should stop playing the victim card Always is a crushing bore but at least he has never called you a child molester which is about as low as you can go frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 you and Always SFC are as bad as one another. It's like you to seek each other out on every bloody topic. Why you cant just put each other on ignore I have no idea. Also you should stop playing the victim card Always is a crushing bore but at least he has never called you a child molester which is about as low as you can go frankly. Actually he posts much much more than I do . You don't know why I said what I said so do mind your business please . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 If you build it they will come! Tell that to Darlington. (I realise your post is probably somewhat facetious...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Actually he posts much much more than I do . You don't know why I said what I said so do mind your business please . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk But i do you and doddisalegend is right you did post that.. Sorry to the rest of you, i will now put this disgusting excuse for a human on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 But i do you and doddisalegend is right you did post that.. Sorry to the rest of you, i will now put this disgusting excuse for a human on ignore. Maybe because you were boasting about harrassing me until I left the forum . I said it to shut you up . It worked as intended Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 But i do you and doddisalegend is right you did post that.. Sorry to the rest of you, i will now put this disgusting excuse for a human on ignore. Youre a liar but its funny to watch you trying to be all moral ? Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Here's a thought.......Anyone got any news on Lander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Here's a thought.......Anyone got any news on Lander? You've come to the wrong place for that... why not amuse yourself on Alpine's latest run like a seaside B&B thread and tick off the Saintsweb bingo phrases, participants and trolls! Everyone's a winner (except the club obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 Next one who posts about the other out of Kermit / Always can take a week off. Fight back starts here Kermit. Now back to topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 21 November, 2016 Share Posted 21 November, 2016 (edited) Fantastic news St Chalet. I'm hoping there is some truth to the take over rumours as long as they have the funds and the will to see us push on Edited 21 November, 2016 by kermitsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Fantastic news St Chalet. I'm hoping there is some truth to the take over rumours as long as they have the funds and the will to see us push on What do you want them to invest in which the current board haven't already, given the FFP prevents us from increasing our wage bill much above what it currently is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 What do you want them to invest in which the current board haven't already, given the FFP prevents us from increasing our wage bill much above what it currently is? I think he should just go and post in the Muppet Show section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 I'm not too sure about FFP. Other sides of a similar size have higher wage bills than us but haven't been pulled by the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 I'm not too sure about FFP. Other sides of a similar size have higher wage bills than us but haven't been pulled by the authorities. wasn't our commercial revenue smaller than Watford's a couple of seasons ago . I know the club have been working on improving that but that would have held us back in FFP terms compared to other clubs our size. We don't really need new owners what saints need is a couple of Man U level sponsorship deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 If someone has a grip on this FFP can they please enlighten me as it seems totally unreasonable that even if we had the investment we cannot compete with the bigger boys because we are not allowed to use it to bolster the club. I know that bigger clubs have much better revenues but their expenditure is far greater what with paying high fee's and salaries, saying that weren't Man city under FFP constraints recently?. Apologies for being a dinlo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 If someone has a grip on this FFP can they please enlighten me as it seems totally unreasonable that even if we had the investment we cannot compete with the bigger boys because we are not allowed to use it to bolster the club. I know that bigger clubs have much better revenues but their expenditure is far greater what with paying high fee's and salaries, saying that weren't Man city under FFP constraints recently?. Apologies for being a dinlo. From how I understand it, it basically stops someone coming in and creating a Man City or a Chelsea overnight through mega investment. But the clubs who were already up there, will stay up there, and the clubs who aspire to be up there will get left behind as they won't be allowed to compete. I don't think there's anything fair about it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 From how I understand it, it basically stops someone coming in and creating a Man City or a Chelsea overnight through mega investment. But the clubs who were already up there, will stay up there, and the clubs who aspire to be up there will get left behind as they won't be allowed to compete. I don't think there's anything fair about it personally. surely, it is not fit for purpose. Did QPR actually get done for their financial mis-management? also, what is to stop some stinking rich bloke, buying the club and then using another one of his companies to sponsor the shirt for an eye-watering amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 surely, it is not fit for purpose. Did QPR actually get done for their financial mis-management? also, what is to stop some stinking rich bloke, buying the club and then using another one of his companies to sponsor the shirt for an eye-watering amount? Been thinking the same thing actually. If someone really wants to put money into the club, they should have enough money to be able to put it in via some kind of commercial sponsorship deal instead of/as well as direct investment. It's an obvious bending/breaking of the FFP rules but FFP itself doesn't appear to have been thought through very much so I'd be surprised if they had some sharp rule to prevent this approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Been thinking the same thing actually. If someone really wants to put money into the club, they should have enough money to be able to put it in via some kind of commercial sponsorship deal instead of/as well as direct investment. It's an obvious bending/breaking of the FFP rules but FFP itself doesn't appear to have been thought through very much so I'd be surprised if they had some sharp rule to prevent this approach. Yeah- what if instead of virgin we had 'Liebherr' on our shirt on a £100m shirt sponsorship contract ;) lol Could you imagine haha- im guessing there'll be something stopping that from happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 What do you want them to invest in which the current board haven't already, given the FFP prevents us from increasing our wage bill much above what it currently is? As others have said , the FFP I think is overstated and possibly even used as an excuse by our club . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Yeah- what if instead of virgin we had 'Liebherr' on our shirt on a £100m shirt sponsorship contract ;) lol Could you imagine haha- im guessing there'll be something stopping that from happening Nothing stopping it but would be taxable, so you would lose a third minimum before you've started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 I get the feeling that if that was viable then it would be being done by a fair few clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 Nothing stopping it but would be taxable, so you would lose a third minimum before you've started. You don't pay tax on income but profit-there wouldn't be any additional profit as you'd spend the additional income on wages.That would be the entire point of creating the income in the first place. Having said that I have a vague recollection that there is a rule that states any sponsorship deal must be in line with market expectations to avoid any circumventing of the rules in this manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 22 November, 2016 Share Posted 22 November, 2016 From how I understand it, it basically stops someone coming in and creating a Man City or a Chelsea overnight through mega investment. But the clubs who were already up there, will stay up there, and the clubs who aspire to be up there will get left behind as they won't be allowed to compete. I don't think there's anything fair about it personally. Well that sounds more unfair than I even thought it was, what a croc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 November, 2016 Share Posted 28 November, 2016 We're my eyes deceiving me yesterday day or did Ralph have a Chinese looking man sitting next to him in Kat's seat, which is always otherwise empty if she doesn't come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 November, 2016 Share Posted 28 November, 2016 We're my eyes deceiving me yesterday day or did Ralph have a Chinese looking man sitting next to him in Kat's seat, which is always otherwise empty if she doesn't come. No, I think the guy just had poor eyesight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 28 November, 2016 Share Posted 28 November, 2016 No, I think the guy just had poor eyesight. You should stop watching those Benny Hill repeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Heard from a normally reliable source that a deal has been agreed with Asian interests and a new club owner will be announced next month so, if true, it could be a few days or a few weeks away. Purchase price mentioned has reduced significantly from what seemingly was a relatively high figure but is still substantial. As someone who has been very grateful for what the Liebherrs have done for the club, I am very cautious about the possibility of new owners. That said we are in a much better place now than during all the uncertain times leading up to the Liebherrs acquisition. However on the downside, our collective aspirations are far higher now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Kat has not been to many games this season, so the writing has been on the wall [emoji31] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 I won't believe it until I see it on Noah Liebherr's Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Heard from a normally reliable source that a deal has been agreed with Asian interests and a new club owner will be announced next month so, if true, it could be a few days or a few weeks away. Purchase price mentioned has reduced significantly from what seemingly was a relatively high figure but is still substantial. As someone who has been very grateful for what the Liebherrs have done for the club, I am very cautious about the possibility of new owners. That said we are in a much better place now than during all the uncertain times leading up to the Liebherrs acquisition. However on the downside, our collective aspirations are far higher now!! We're one crap Chinese owner away from going right back there. Hopefully I'm wrong but I do not have a good feeling about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Heard from a normally reliable source that a deal has been agreed with Asian interests and a new club owner will be announced next month so, if true, it could be a few days or a few weeks away. Purchase price mentioned has reduced significantly from what seemingly was a relatively high figure but is still substantial. As someone who has been very grateful for what the Liebherrs have done for the club, I am very cautious about the possibility of new owners. That said we are in a much better place now than during all the uncertain times leading up to the Liebherrs acquisition. However on the downside, our collective aspirations are far higher now!! I heard from a very VERY reliable source that it was dead in the water as the Chinese don't have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 I heard from a very VERY reliable source that it was dead in the water as the Chinese don't have the money. I do hope that your source is better than mine!!!! I have to admit to being comforted by your post as you are generally on the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Yeah- what if instead of virgin we had 'Liebherr' on our shirt on a £100m shirt sponsorship contract ;) lol Could you imagine haha- im guessing there'll be something stopping that from happening The FFP administrators may think that £100m isn't a realistic sponsorship value. Which it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 I have to admit to being comforted by your post as you are generally on the money I'm surprised by this. Does no-one remember Rickie Lambert not being on the away kit advert? Suffice to say it was a well-known media source talking to a friend of mine in Prague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 it was a well-known media source talking to a friend of mine in Prague. Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Wilson? I'm not going to entertain the guessing game after this one, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 I'm not going to entertain the guessing game after this one, but no. Neil Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 I'm not going to entertain the guessing game after this one, but no. Funnily enough I know exactly who it was, I'm sure a few others do too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Funnily enough I know exactly who it was, I'm sure a few others do too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Clue? (Go on: we need some fun in the absence of transfer rumours!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Clue? (Go on: we need some fun in the absence of transfer rumours!) Why not guess next season's away kit instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Funnily enough I know exactly who it was, I'm sure a few others do too I should think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 November, 2016 Share Posted 29 November, 2016 Nudge, nudge, wink wink #ron #dave #duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 I heard from a very VERY reliable source that it was dead in the water as the Chinese don't have the money. Is Kat actively trying to sell the club?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo_saint Posted 30 November, 2016 Share Posted 30 November, 2016 I get the feeling that if that was viable then it would be being done by a fair few clubs. Leicester did something fishy like this in their promotion season. Was being investigated, but it's gone quiet since I read this a while back https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/11/leicester-city-finances-football-league-financial-fair-play-investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 Anyone heard anything about takeover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 9 December, 2016 Share Posted 9 December, 2016 The six week exclusivity period must be coming to an end soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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