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The January 2017 Transfer Window Thread

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benjii

benjii

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Yes sickening to say the least, we could easily sell off two of our underperforming midfielders to supplement his wages, but thats something saints will not do unfortunately.

 

Why is that unfortunate?

 

If we pay Morgan £120k a week then Boufal, Van Dijk, Fonte, Romeu, Tadic, Bertrand, Forster etc. will want £120k a week. As far as I know, our current top earner is on about £80k/wk.

 

This is probably the same problem West Brom would be making for themselves. Which is why he won't go to West Brom but might go to Everton or West Ham.

 

This is also why the likes of Everton and West Ham end up with expensive crap in their squads over time.

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doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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Why is that unfortunate?

 

If we pay Morgan £120k a week then Boufal, Van Dijk, Fonte, Romeu, Tadic, Bertrand, Forster etc. will want £120k a week. As far as I know, our current top earner is on about £80k/wk.

 

This is probably the same problem West Brom would be making for themselves. Which is why he won't go to West Brom but might go to Everton or West Ham.

 

This is also why the likes of Everton and West Ham end up with expensive crap in their squads over time.

 

This came up before why do people think Everton will pay 120K a week their best paid player is Lukaku on 80K a week.

 

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/pics/pictures/4544/Every-Everton-ace-s-weekly-wages-revealed

 

No one is going to pay Morgan a 120K a week if he wants to get his career back on track he is going to have to take a pay cut.

Verbal Kint

Verbal Kint

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This came up before why do people think Everton will pay 120K a week their best paid player is Lukaku on 80K a week.

 

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/pics/pictures/4544/Every-Everton-ace-s-weekly-wages-revealed

 

No one is going to pay Morgan a 120K a week if he wants to get his career back on track he is going to have to take a pay cut.

 

He's about to sign a new deal for significantly more than that. They have the investment now to offer 100k

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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He's about to sign a new deal for significantly more than that. They have the investment now to offer 100k

 

Yep they are offering him a 100K a week still 20K less than they will allegedly pay Morgan. Plus how does that investment work under FFP? I was under the impression owners aren't allowed to just fund player sales and wages surely the investment will go on the new ground or clearing debts?

Saint Albert

Saint Albert

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The 120K bit might be a red herring. The article states that he will take a pay cut to leave Man U:

 

Schneiderlin currently earns around £120,000 a week at Old Trafford and though he would have to take a pay cut to join either Everton or West Brom, he is desperate to revive his career after falling off the radar.

 

He surely must regret leaving Saints.

EBS1980

EBS1980

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Him and Romeu in the middle would be amazing for us. Better than an other combo we have therefore would be mad not to try and get back.

mrfahaji

mrfahaji

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Him and Romeu in the middle would be amazing for us. Better than an other combo we have therefore would be mad not to try and get back.

 

Agree with this bit, but the last bit doesn't necessarily follow. It's the opportunity cost of bringing him back - £18m could be spent on someone who would do even more for the team than Schneiderlin would.

Batman

Batman

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Agree with this bit, but the last bit doesn't necessarily follow. It's the opportunity cost of bringing him back - £18m could be spent on someone who would do even more for the team than Schneiderlin would.

 

throw in the £45m windfall we will get in addition to the top of the league net spend from the summer just gone and no doubt, the summer to follow when others are gone

with the mental TV deal

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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Chelsea sell Oscar for £52m

they do sell well that club, that is for sure.

 

I love how they are going to use all that money to re-invest in their team when they probably have about 10 players out on loan who could probably do a job for them replacing Oscar on the bench.

Batman

Batman

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I love how they are going to use all that money to re-invest in their team when they probably have about 10 players out on loan who could probably do a job for them replacing Oscar on the bench.

 

their loan system is an obvious way of making money. It kind of works, for them

Batman

Batman

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Oscar was bought for 27m so doubled their money to the Chinese who throw their money around, we do just as well, if not better with our sales.

 

he has hardly been a star for them and not really a fixture in the 1st team.

To get £52m is incredible really

SKD

SKD

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Oscar was bought for 27m so doubled their money to the Chinese who throw their money around, we do just as well, if not better with our sales.

 

Really? so you don't think that Mane for £36 million (given the other transfers that have taken place this window) was a steal?

 

Do you think that Oscar is worth £16 million more than Mane? is Mane only worth £4 million more than Benteke

SKD

SKD

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he has hardly been a star for them and not really a fixture in the 1st team.

To get £52m is incredible really

 

Absolutely! and the £50 million they got for Luiz from PSG.

 

Unfortunately we just don't hold the power to command them sort of fee's (before anyone mentions VVD, if he goes for £50 million, that's the same price as stones who's half the player).

Batman

Batman

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Percentage wise. We traveled our money on Mane in 2 seasons, you think that's bad business?

 

if we treble our money on VvD in the summer, that would still be bad business IMO

(which we wont, will be at least £45m IMO)

Chez

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I know we have brought in a shed load from sales, but I still think by and large that we have sold slightly short.

 

VVD fee should be astronomical. Anything less than £50m is simply not good business on our part. The market is moving very quickly. Before you know it £100m players will be two a penny.

skintsaint

skintsaint

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West Brom bid 13 million for Morgan ... we would be daft not to at least consider resigning him

 

Decent signing for that much, wages would be an issue I would expect...

StDunko

StDunko

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Chelsea sell Oscar for £52m

they do sell well that club, that is for sure.

 

Do you think they got good fees for Bertrand and Romeu, or in hindsight did they undervalue those two?

Saints foreva

Saints foreva

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Do you think they got good fees for Bertrand and Romeu, or in hindsight did they undervalue those two?

 

£10m for Bertrand was good business for them (and us) considering he was never going to get in their side.

 

Not sure how much Romeu cost us, can't imagine it was much though?

whelk

whelk

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£10m for Bertrand was good business for them (and us) considering he was never going to get in their side.

 

Not sure how much Romeu cost us, can't imagine it was much though?

 

£5m

Batman

Batman

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Can you image the meltdown on here if we sold Romeu and Bertrand for a combined £15m!

 

But Batman thinks that Chelsea "sell well"...

 

they generally do.

imagine selling a 'sell-on-fee' for the one day worlds most expensive player for a tommy forcast

Batman

Batman

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Do you think they got good fees for Bertrand and Romeu, or in hindsight did they undervalue those two?

 

I would say yes. Bertrand was not really setting the world alight at Villa and before that. Never going to get in their side at the time.

Romeu also was never ever going to get in their side and had a run of serious injuries

 

how much did Bertrand cost them? £125k....and sold for £10m

saint-crinny

saint-crinny

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At the time, we were no doubt happy with the fee we paid and Chelsea with what they received - a few years on and we'd sell them for more if they left, but that says more about is and what we have done as a club with players rather than Chelsea not getting good value for money

saintadam

saintadam

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CM should be the least prioritized position. Romeu has been great and Clasie and Hojbjerg will come good and we also have JWP and Reed. Morgan is a great player but it would be more of a luxury than a must to have him at this time.

 

We spent 16 millions on Boufal and i would rather have one more player of that kind in the squad.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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Pochettino will come in for him - BETCHA

 

Pardew will sign him for his next club... Swansea. Put your Christmas on it. (Don't!)

tajjuk

tajjuk

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At that price we should snap him up, he's still better than anything we have. Last few seasons for us he was developing as a proper box to box midfielder rather than a standard DM. Plus he'd be great cover for Romeu, he's basically an upgrade on Clasie for £13 million, seems a no brainer to me.

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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At that price we should snap him up, he's still better than anything we have. Last few seasons for us he was developing as a proper box to box midfielder rather than a standard DM. Plus he'd be great cover for Romeu, he's basically an upgrade on Clasie for £13 million, seems a no brainer to me.

 

Sell JWP and I'm in with Morgan coming back.

saint77

saint77

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Without the window being open? Interesting. Out of contract?

 

The window doesn't need to be open to make a signing just cant play until after Jan 2nd

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