MarkSFC Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 i don't think there is any better pair of young centre backs than Calum Chambers and Ben Gibson. They are the main reason Midblesbrough's defensive record is one of the best in the Premier League: better than ours and Liverpool's. What are the chances of getting Chambers back? I guess he'd be out of our price range. for once I agree with one of your posts, they look a really good pairing but my preference would be Gibson, as he looks much more composed and is left footed. Home boy and Chairman is his Dad so unlikely to leave unless for a "big" club though! Not really, if the club that wanted him no longer do so then we can't just shove him out of the door with no club to go to. I reckon Benfica might want him but maybe only willing to pay us half of what his valuation is perceived to be. I thought this would be his likely destination; especially when one of their CBs was linked with a move to Manure, guessing thats the hold up! I would be happy with Schlar or Sakho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 for once I agree with one of your posts, they look a really good pairing but my preference would be Gibson, as he looks much more composed and is left footed. Home boy and Chairman is his Dad so unlikely to leave unless for a "big" club though! I thought this would be his likely destination; especially when one of their CBs was linked with a move to Manure, guessing thats the hold up! I would be happy with Schlar or Sakho.The chairman is his uncle but the case of him being sold to us is unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 But, there are 2 ways of doing things....someone like West Ham show their hand and prices will go up. By saying not bothered, that is us holding our cards much closer to our chest and hopefully will not mean prices are inflated more than they already are. I think everyone can see where our problem is, but not sure everyone knows quite what the Club/manager is thinking. Maybe they are happy with what they have, maybe they're not. That's fine, they can be as quiet as they like. As long as they actually do bring in a bloody striker. A loan will be fine. I think it would be a massive risk to not bring another striker in, with the hope that Long or J-Rod can start scoring regularly between now and the end of the season. Not to mention hoping neither getting injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Plus Fonte was 27 when he joined us. That turned out OK ;-) To a certain extent that was a different era / philosophy. We were buying proven players that would get us out of the league(s) and back to the Prem (Lambert, Fonte etc). There was little requirement for resale value then. It's a different model now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 The chairman is his uncle but the case of him being sold to us is unlikely Very true, thanks for the correction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Not really, if the club that wanted him no longer do so then we can't just shove him out of the door with no club to go to. I reckon Benfica might want him but maybe only willing to pay us half of what his valuation is perceived to be. The other issue with Fonte going to Benfica is that he'd be unlikely to get the wages he wants there. they do have some highly paid players, but according to the Mail (I know), Lindlof who he would be replacing if the Man Utd transfer goes through is only on £3.5k per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Be quite interesting to see how this unfolds There has and always will be a pecking order in football (levels/hierarchy) and footballers will make noises about ambition and champions league and for some that's important. But I would almost guarantee that the biggest reason to sign for any club is wages. Now that these Chinese clubs are willing to pay £32 million a season (Tevez) youre likely to see a large exodus of players to china next 12-24 months Will probably encourage the formation of a European super league and we will be left to fight for the premier league with WBA and Burnley..... Not sure that excites me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Be quite interesting to see how this unfolds There has and always will be a pecking order in football (levels/hierarchy) and footballers will make noises about ambition and champions league and for some that's important. But I would almost guarantee that the biggest reason to sign for any club is wages. Now that these Chinese clubs are willing to pay £32 million a season (Tevez) youre likely to see a large exodus of players to china next 12-24 months Will probably encourage the formation of a European super league and we will be left to fight for the premier league with WBA and Burnley..... Not sure that excites me. So you didn't get excited battling it out for league one and Championship? You Prem johnny come lately!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Apparently Costa has got the hump as China offered him £13m a year and I presume Chelsea said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Apparently Costa has got the hump as China offered him £13m a year and I presume Chelsea said no. Reports say 30mi not 13!! 100k a day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 (edited) Apparently Costas agent is in China..... the agent also looks after Fonte [emoji3] http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/733972/Southampton-Jose-Fonte-Chelsea-Diego-Costa-dinner-Jorge-Mendes-sportgalleries Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited 13 January, 2017 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Reports say 30mi not 13!! 100k a day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ah. Must have misheard the wireless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Surely the china bubble will burst soon? What they are offering players - and even flaming refrees - is obscene. It's just a ball on some grass for Christ sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Surely the china bubble will burst soon? What they are offering players - and even flaming refrees - is obscene. It's just a ball on some grass for Christ sake! Hasn't burst in the Prem yet. Sky and their money have been ruining football here for years, they say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 So you didn't get excited battling it out for league one and Championship? You Prem johnny come lately!! He was too busy helping the police with their inquiries. Allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Swansea get Carroll from Spurs for £4m. Decent deal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Probably - let's hope it doesn't burst too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Reports say 30mi not 13!! 100k a day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'll take it. (It's f*cking obscene). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Have we twisted Wimmers agents arm yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Have we twisted Wimmers agents arm yet? He'll be off to China. They're all off to China. Who can we sign from division 2, like the 80s, proper football signings. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 13 January, 2017 Share Posted 13 January, 2017 Be quite interesting to see how this unfolds There has and always will be a pecking order in football (levels/hierarchy) and footballers will make noises about ambition and champions league and for some that's important. But I would almost guarantee that the biggest reason to sign for any club is wages. Now that these Chinese clubs are willing to pay £32 million a season (Tevez) youre likely to see a large exodus of players to china next 12-24 months Will probably encourage the formation of a European super league and we will be left to fight for the premier league with WBA and Burnley..... Not sure that excites me. I think it's great to see the so called big clubs being rebranded selling clubs! It will make a more even Premier League....bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 I reckon we are letting this one run on until the last few days of the transfer deadline which ends in January. Probably have agreed deals with Sakho and Gabbiadini but we can't agree a fee with Liverpool and Napoli. The back up plan would be the cheaper option which is Haller & god knows who for CB. I do recall us signing Mane and Alderwald on the last day a couple of years ago as many clubs like to play the market for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Apparently Sakho's 105k a week could be a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 I think it's great to see the so called big clubs being rebranded selling clubs! It will make a more even Premier League....bring it on! Doubt it. They'll just spend their huge earnings from the Chinese players on yhe next tier down. We'll be forced to buy from a tier lower as well. Everyone has dropped a tier down the pyramid to let the Chinese in at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 I hear we are interested in Daniel Parejo of Valencia and Lucas Perez from Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Leicester are allegedly in for Gaston Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 He'll be off to China. They're all off to China. Who can we sign from division 2, like the 80s, proper football signings. Love it! I agree. I loved those days when you found a nugget in the lower leagues, even if they didn't always turn out to be good over the longer term. Brett Ormerod; Mickey Evans, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Bid in for Gabbiadini apparently: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-favourites-sign-west-brom-target-new-bid-submitted-past-hours/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 My Son says Gabbiadini and Sakho will sign for Saints in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 My Son says Gabbiadini and Sakho will sign for Saints in this window. Is he well connected at the club or a talented soothsayer? If so, that would be good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Surely the key here is the Fonte situation. As he is one of the highest paid players offloading him would free up a significant lump of budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Hasn't burst in the Prem yet. Sky and their money have been ruining football here for years, they say... I must have missed the bit were the Chinese super league has huge global TV deals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 I think it's great to see the so called big clubs being rebranded selling clubs! It will make a more even Premier League....bring it on! It will probably actually have the opposite effect in truth. The big clubs will have even more money to spend on players from the selling clubs like us, paying silly amounts for players that do not attract the absolute top money now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Leicester are allegedly in for Gaston Ramirez. Yet another English club he can fail at then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 By the way, I think if we sign Gabbiadini we won't play him as a striker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 They were talking about Gabbiadini on football weekly and said his preferred position is as a wide forward not a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Yet another English club he can fail at then... Difficult to say he's failed at Boro, been an excellent signing for them and one of their best players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 I must have missed the bit were the Chinese super league has huge global TV deals... Think you'll find global tv deals are only relevant as a way to raise money, looks like the chinese don't have this problem, not sure if they're state funded or what, needless to say they can play in empty stadiums with no one watching on tv and they'll still have the same money. We can all laugh at the big teams but this is a worrying scenario for us, if we lose the tv deals it won't be just them losing out, it'll be the end of us signing players like Hojberg, mane vvd etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Yet another English club he can fail at then... 0/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Think you'll find global tv deals are only relevant as a way to raise money, looks like the chinese don't have this problem, not sure if they're state funded or what, needless to say they can play in empty stadiums with no one watching on tv and they'll still have the same money. We can all laugh at the big teams but this is a worrying scenario for us, if we lose the tv deals it won't be just them losing out, it'll be the end of us signing players like Hojberg, mane vvd etc It seems even the Chinese government are getting worried about the money being spent A spokesperson for China's General Administration of Sport said clubs in the country were "burning money". The spending was also described as "a grave phenomenon" in a question and answer session on the organisation's official website on Thursday. The spokesperson added that the government body would "strengthen examination and supervision of clubs' financial affairs, progressively control clubs' expenditures on first-team players and ensure favourable financial conditions". http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38524429 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Spurs will want to hold onto Wimmer now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 It seems even the Chinese government are getting worried about the money being spent A spokesperson for China's General Administration of Sport said clubs in the country were "burning money". The spending was also described as "a grave phenomenon" in a question and answer session on the organisation's official website on Thursday. The spokesperson added that the government body would "strengthen examination and supervision of clubs' financial affairs, progressively control clubs' expenditures on first-team players and ensure favourable financial conditions". http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38524429 What... all we're doing is evening up the trade deficit ever so slightly, they sell us plastic crap, we sell them over the hill footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 From the guy who was covering saints match for Solent today in Adam Blackmore's absence. #saintsfc boss Claude Puel tells me he'll 'sit down with Les Reed and the Chairman' to discuss the possibility of signing a striker in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Any new striker will be isolated exactly like Long and Rodriguez currently are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Any new striker will be isolated exactly like Long and Rodriguez currently are. Absolutely true. There's no point in having another striker if we only ever play one up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 From the guy who was covering saints match for Solent today in Adam Blackmore's absence. Is that 'sit down' in January or 'sign a striker' in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 I'd prefer a different manager to sit down with him and get a striker and play a different formation, the team drawing from his energy and enthusiasm Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Any new striker will be isolated exactly like Long and Rodriguez currently are. We had 20 shots today, and its by no means the first time this season we've had plenty of chances, no team should be failing to score with twenty shots we need someone who can convert chances all this to isolated stuff is just hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 We had 20 shots today, and its by no means the first time this season we've had plenty of chances, no team should be failing to score with twenty shots we need someone who can convert chances all this to isolated stuff is just hyperbole. I didn't go to the match, of course. What sort of distance were these twenty shots taken from? Statistics like this mean nothing in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 14 January, 2017 Share Posted 14 January, 2017 Any new striker will be isolated exactly like Long and Rodriguez currently are. Long Rodriguez and Redmond have been the main problem all season, quite frankly they haven't been good enough bar a couple games here and there. Long and Redmond especially miss far too many chances and ruin our attacks with poor play. We need to buy a really good striker and should have done it by now since Austin is still out. Hurry up and do it before Liverpool away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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