Professor Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 Pleased to see only two Saints in the squad, Forster and Bertrand. Many may have felt Charlie Austin deserved a place but its unlikely he would have actually got a game as whoever is England manager seems to prefer not to make too many changes to the squad, or the team. The pride felt by fans in seeing one of their team in the national side isn't the excitement that is once was, maybe because club football matters more to most people or because the England team is only consistent in how much it consistently struggles in major competition. We will have other players called up in this break but the more this squad can rest the better, as long as training continues.
farawaysaint Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 Pleased to see only two Saints in the squad, Forster and Bertrand. Many may have felt Charlie Austin deserved a place but its unlikely he would have actually got a game as whoever is England manager seems to prefer not to make too many changes to the squad, or the team. The pride felt by fans in seeing one of their team in the national side isn't the excitement that is once was, maybe because club football matters more to most people or because the England team is only consistent in how much it consistently struggles in major competition. We will have other players called up in this break but the more this squad can rest the better, as long as training continues. This is a sad state of affairs tbh.
Saint_clark Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 This is a sad state of affairs tbh. Christ, we haven't come THAT far yet have we? Maybe compile a list of how many current internationals we have in our squad altogether, of any nationality. I don't think having "only" two players in the England squad is a sad state of affairs at all.
Lighthouse Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 Christ, we haven't come THAT far yet have we? Maybe compile a list of how many current internationals we have in our squad altogether, of any nationality. I don't think having "only" two players in the England squad is a sad state of affairs at all. I think he meant it's sad that we don't want our players in the squad. Normally I'd want our players to get recognition but with our fixtures I'd rather they get a rest.
redkeith Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 I lost interest in the england team after Keegan retired as a player. Since then I have been unable to relate to it because if the rejection of good players at unfashioanable clubs in favour of the likes of John Barnes, Ray Wilkins and the like who contribute nothing( John Barnes got something like 90 caps, on the back of that goal in Brazil, and 2 crosses in the defaet to Argentina. The times when I have got more investedhave been the tournaments when the shoe in's have got injured and the team has suddenly improved. In Mexico Hodge, Ried and Bracewell came in for Wilkins and Robson and England got to the QTR's. In Italy, John Barnes injury lead to a change in formation and then the Semi's. Since then, nothing, although I did wan't them to lose after the way Venables and Hoddle ignored Le Tiss. I did get excited when Rickie scored against Scotland, but that was still tempered by the way that Roy wouldn't put Lallana and Lambert on the pitch at the same time, despite thier understanding of each other's game. For Euro 2016 only 3 CD's were included in the squad, none of whom would get in the Saints defence. The latest squad includes a 30 plus Man Utd substitute as Captain, and Lingard, another forward who has managed to look very average in a mediocre Man United team. This obsession with the big 6 has not worked in the past 30 years. I would much prefer to see players like Davies at Hull, who has put in a season and a bit of good performances in a struggling team, but Smalling and Cahill are picked instead.
Colinjb Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 After taking such joy in seeing players develop with us and break into the England side, and then seeing them leave, sometimes acrimoniously (Lallana) I simply do not get any fun from seeing our players in England colours anymore. It's just a sign that we are probably saying goodbye to them in the near future.
farawaysaint Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 Christ, we haven't come THAT far yet have we? Maybe compile a list of how many current internationals we have in our squad altogether, of any nationality. I don't think having "only" two players in the England squad is a sad state of affairs at all. I meant the fact that he is pleased only 2 made it but ok.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 Glen Johnson...... enough said Reason enough for Southgate not to get the job permanently.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 No, its far better to have endless hours of amusement watching non-Saints players in England colours.
Mystic Force Posted 3 October, 2016 Posted 3 October, 2016 What really tells me that the selection system is stupid is when a player who has been lauded for their performances at a "small" club doesn't get picked but the moment they move suddenly is good enough, and then players who are bit part players for "big" clubs who get called up England duty all the time move on to another club and then are never picked. Cleaverly being the prime example of this. That tells me all I need to know.
david in sweden Posted 4 October, 2016 Posted 4 October, 2016 I think he meant it's sad that we don't want our players in the squad. Normally I'd want our players to get recognition but with our fixtures I'd rather they get a rest. ......that about sums it up for me, too. Southgate is only holding the fort for (goodness knows who?)...and if England lose games/points on his watch, those players will be tainted for life....along with those infamous players who missed vital penalties at major tournaments .. Oops sorry Gareth..didn't know you were listening.
LaptopSaint Posted 4 October, 2016 Posted 4 October, 2016 Four players now in the U21s - congrats to Jack Stephens. Hope he can push on at St Marys too...
Sour Mash Posted 5 October, 2016 Posted 5 October, 2016 Mad that some of our squad a couple of days after arriving back from Israel have flown out to Kazakhstan. Effort that.
simo Posted 5 October, 2016 Posted 5 October, 2016 Four players now in the U21s - congrats to Jack Stephens. Hope he can push on at St Marys too... Targett back at saints for treatment on an injury
nta786 Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Bertrand starting for England tonight boys! Hope he gets a goal from left back
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Amazed Forster is left out, amazed Bertrand is in (ahead of Rose).
Tony F Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Bertrand starting for England tonight boys! Hope he gets a goal from left back Are Scousehampton looking for a left back then?
Mr Biscuits Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Absolutely no interest in England until they actually start achieving something. That will happen sometime never while you have failures like Rooney in the team.
Lighthouse Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Absolutely no interest in England until they actually start achieving something. That will happen sometime never while you have failures like Rooney in the team. They actually make for quite a decent drinking game. 2 fingers every time the 'tater says, "poor cross from Walker." Good times.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 He's injured that's all we ****ing need
5string Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Interesting to see England vs Matt Le Tissier on ITV at the moment. I know he was good, but ...?
saint lard Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Bertrand is coming off....not what we need Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
angelman Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 My 10yo lad has just left from watching pronouncing that it was really boring. He ain't wrong. At home against the team ranked 176th. And now Ryan is out. F'ing brilliant!
so22saint Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Hamstring. That'll be 6 weeks of Matty Target then
Shance Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 **** sake. **** off England ****s. Hamstring injury for Bertrand. ******s.
doddisalegend Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Targett back at saints for treatment on an injury Hamstring. That'll be 6 weeks of Matty Target then So has one international break done for both our left backs then? With Cedric injured and Pied out for the season our we now down to one fit full back in Cuco?
Wrensup Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 So many sideways and backwards passes, oh and the odd long diagonal from Rooney. We are miles behind Spain and Italy when it comes to even simple things like triangles and passing forward.
Plastic Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Rooney picks a nice pass, but the **** spends most of the match walking, which takes the urgency out of everybody else's game.
Lighthouse Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Sturridge with a cannonball from 1 yard away.
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 In this day and age that's a foul and potentially a red card for me. Could break the guys legs.
Appy Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Hopefully just a precaution, maybe wishful thinking.
Plastic Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 (edited) What's happened to the centre circle? Looks like someone has dug a pond, and the way the ball bobbles as it travels over it implies it's not been filled in very well. Edited 8 October, 2016 by Plastic
Matthew Le God Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 What's happens to the centre circle? Looks like someone has dug a pond. And the way the ball bobbles as it travels over it implies it's not been filled in very well. There was an American football game at Wembley last weekend. The designated home side had their crest painted in the centre of the pitch, they have painted the grass green to remove it.
Plastic Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 There was an American football game at Wembley last weekend. The designated home side had their crest painted in the centre of the pitch, they have painted the grass green to remove it. Christ. Thanks for info. Every time England play at Wembley there seem to be artefacts left over from other sports.
angelman Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Hope Ryan just tweaked it (or "felt" it) and came off without having damaged things too badly.
Batman Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 (edited) Hope Ryan just tweaked it (or "felt" it) and came off without having damaged things too badly. didnt look too bad when coming off. looked like a tweak.....bound to be out next weekend., but we play next sunday afernoon........ which spurs player will win MoM fro Hoddle, do you all reckon? Edited 8 October, 2016 by Batman
angelman Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Alli for MotM?? Anyway, you'll have to tell me as I am bored ****less by this, and the monotonous tone of Tyldesely far too often referring back to all things Man U. Going to do something less boring instead.
St Marco Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Terrible performance. Rooney has to be finished after this performance. 2-0 at home to Malta.....That is just as bad as the Iceland game imo.
stockportsaint Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 Interesting to see England vs Matt Le Tissier on ITV at the moment. I know he was good, but ...? Ha. I spotted that too. Not sure England would do much better against Le Tiss than Malta ...
whelk Posted 8 October, 2016 Posted 8 October, 2016 So many sideways and backwards passes, oh and the odd long diagonal from Rooney. We are miles behind Spain and Italy when it comes to even simple things like triangles and passing forward. Italy only beat them 1-0. Expect that will get trotted out if hasn't already. Drivel
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