Katalinic Posted 23 August, 2017 Share Posted 23 August, 2017 Well, its only about eight more times. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 8 goals for Jay now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 8 goals for Jay now. The Jay-Rod situation sums up how bad it's been for the last two season. We had a gem of a player in Jay, who suffers a nasty injury. We stick by him for all that recovery period as he was one of the most exciting talents in the squad. Yet he comes back and is just shoved in the team as a bit part player after rehabilitation. Puel's crap style of footy stifled him and he wanted out, all the while fans and coaches have already dismissed him as past it and not good enough for this progressive style. Now he's looking back to his best under Pardew, probably because he's actually put faith him in. So rather than doing the same with a player we already have, we ship him out for a snip and then break our transfer record on someone unproven in the Prem. Obviously I'm going to get behind Guido but it just heightens to the shambles this club has been this past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 The Jay-Rod situation sums up how bad it's been for the last two season. We had a gem of a player in Jay, who suffers a nasty injury. We stick by him for all that recovery period as he was one of the most exciting talents in the squad. Yet he comes back and is just shoved in the team as a bit part player after rehabilitation. Puel's crap style of footy stifled him and he wanted out, all the while fans and coaches have already dismissed him as past it and not good enough for this progressive style. Now he's looking back to his best under Pardew, probably because he's actually put faith him in. So rather than doing the same with a player we already have, we ship him out for a snip and then break our transfer record on someone unproven in the Prem. Obviously I'm going to get behind Guido but it just heightens to the shambles this club has been this past year. You do realise that Jrod played under Koeman during the 2015/16 season and also looked out desperately of sorts? I like freaks and a bit of colour -and you’re definitely an aspiring ART but get your facts right pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 Tbf his goals per minutes stats even under Puel wasnt too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 The Jay-Rod situation sums up how bad it's been for the last two season. We had a gem of a player in Jay, who suffers a nasty injury. We stick by him for all that recovery period as he was one of the most exciting talents in the squad. Yet he comes back and is just shoved in the team as a bit part player after rehabilitation. Puel's crap style of footy stifled him and he wanted out, all the while fans and coaches have already dismissed him as past it and not good enough for this progressive style. Now he's looking back to his best under Pardew, probably because he's actually put faith him in. So rather than doing the same with a player we already have, we ship him out for a snip and then break our transfer record on someone unproven in the Prem. Obviously I'm going to get behind Guido but it just heightens to the shambles this club has been this past year. He was average his first season with us, had a very good season under Poch (sadly cut short by injury) after injury he was crap on his return under both Koeman and Puel we did the right thing off loading him what ever happens else where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 He was average his first season with us, had a very good season under Poch (sadly cut short by injury) after injury he was crap on his return under both Koeman and Puel we did the right thing off loading him what ever happens else where. Crap? Scored 3 in 6* under Koeman Scored 5 in the premier league in 10* under Puel *minutes equivalent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 Crap? Scored 3 in 6* under Koeman Scored 5 in the premier league in 10* under Puel *minutes equivalentthose sort of stats are making Carrillo looks like a world beater from his time and Monaco, in another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 Crap? Scored 3 in 6* under Koeman Scored 5 in the premier league in 10* under Puel *minutes equivalentcan you post up the games he scored those goals in. I recall the Sunderland one and the Bournemouth one, cant recall the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 those sort of stats are making Carrillo looks like a world beater from his time and Monaco, in another thread You can't score if you dont play, but if you dont play you need to question why. Typically i guess these types are chucked on last 10-15 in a desperate attempt to grab something. Scoring stats may therefore be misleading. However Jay was never "crap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 His goal to minutes ratio this season is worse than Austin & Gabbiadini despite much more opportunity (3x as much playing time as Austin). This seems an apt place to put this:- http://georgeweahscousin.com/the-weekly-rannt-ex-infatuations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 those sort of stats are making Carrillo looks like a world beater from his time and Monaco, in another threadfor someone who thought Pelle was useless I suggest you are a busted flush when talking about forwards lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 can you post up the games he scored those goals in. I recall the Sunderland one and the Bournemouth one, cant recall the others. Sunderland, Bournemouth (2), Leicester, Middlesbrough He only got the full 90 3x under Puel. Scoring 3 in those 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 can you post up the games he scored those goals in. I recall the Sunderland one and the Bournemouth one, cant recall the others.Leicester, Middlesbrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 Better than Long and Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 His goal to minutes ratio this season is worse than Austin & Gabbiadini despite much more opportunity (3x as much playing time as Austin). This seems an apt place to put this:- http://georgeweahscousin.com/the-weekly-rannt-ex-infatuations/absolutely spot on. No doubt he had a good game yesterday but regardless of what has happened since, we got a good fee and it was time to move on. It will be meltdown central if he scores against us next weekend. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 While Jay certainly looked good yesterday, I don't think we should be trying to rewrite history. Most people on this board agreed that he was, sadly, no longer good enough for Saints and were amazed we managed to get so much money for him. Yesterday he looked like the old J-Rod. This might be due to any number of reasons: luck, a change of manager or team set-up or perhaps a change of attitude from the player. It may last and WBA may have got a bargain. But I don't think anyone here predicted that at the time he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 While Jay certainly looked good yesterday, I don't think we should be trying to rewrite history. Most people on this board agreed that he was, sadly, no longer good enough for Saints and were amazed we managed to get so much money for him. Yesterday he looked like the old J-Rod. This might be due to any number of reasons: luck, a change of manager or team set-up or perhaps a change of attitude from the player. It may last and WBA may have got a bargain. But I don't think anyone here predicted that at the time he left. Agree with you totally. Good luck to him, shame we don’t stay with our players. Next one out Gabby who hasn’t been given chance to show his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 Jay Rod will rescue Westbrom at the expense of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 Jay Rod will rescue Westbrom at the expense of us.time will tell. Pardew has got them playing and sadly they are hitting form just as we are to play them. The decision to sell JRod is not why we are where we are, it is down to the complacency of the board. It must be 2-3 years that we have been needing another good forward and we have failed in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 There's no doubt an in-form J-Rod is a great player. However, as with many employees that lose motivation (form), sometimes a fresh start is the only option to recapture that. I am pleased for him but severely doubt he'd have recaptured that form at Saints, no matter who was the manager. He just needed a change. People on here, forget that players are humans with emotions and motivations that are sometimes out of the control of a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 January, 2018 Share Posted 28 January, 2018 While Jay certainly looked good yesterday, I don't think we should be trying to rewrite history. Most people on this board agreed that he was, sadly, no longer good enough for Saints and were amazed we managed to get so much money for him. Yesterday he looked like the old J-Rod. This might be due to any number of reasons: luck, a change of manager or team set-up or perhaps a change of attitude from the player. It may last and WBA may have got a bargain. But I don't think anyone here predicted that at the time he left. True, virtually everyone thought it was a good deal. But flogging him and replacing him with no one was obviously going to weaken the squad. A squad that struggled massively to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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