Greenridge Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 With our lack of depth and talent up front this would be a fairly remarkable deal to happen. No smoke without fire though and this rumour has been building for some time so it wouldn't surprise me to see WBA make a serious attempt to get this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 With our lack of depth and talent up front this would be a fairly remarkable deal to happen. No smoke without fire though and this rumour has been building for some time so it wouldn't surprise me to see WBA make a serious attempt to get this done. We play a formation with 1 striker, we don't really need 4 senior strikers for a 433 system. It won't be overly long until Austin is back, so fitting Austin, Gabbiadini, Long & Rodriguez in to a match-day squad of 18 isn't easy when we also have Boufal, Redmond, Tadic & Sims for the 2 wide positions in the 433 system. - Play 2 upfront and you need 4 senior strikers in the squad - Play 1 upfront like Saints do and you only really need 3 senior strikers in the squad Any more that that and it bloats the squad a little, senior players aren't even making the matchday squad of 18 and get unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 With our lack of depth and talent up front this would be a fairly remarkable deal to happen. No smoke without fire though and this rumour has been building for some time so it wouldn't surprise me to see WBA make a serious attempt to get this done. This. Would be mad if we let JRod go now. Austin won't be back much before the end of the season, possibly last couple of games, if that. Gabbiadini is an unknown but has only played a couple of full games this season from what I understand, and Long has only scored 1 (?) premier league goal. If they decide to let him go at the end of the season that would be understandable (but still nuts) with Gallagher coming back, Austin fit, Gabbiadini settled in and Long. Even playing the current formation having 4 strikers is not a luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 West Brom have bid 10m apparently Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We cant afford to let Jrod go as we don't have the numbers and he is just starting to find a bit of form. In the summer I could see it happening but not in Jan surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 We cant afford to let Jrod go as we don't have the numbers and he is just starting to find a bit of form. In the summer I could see it happening but not in Jan surely? If he's not in the squad tomorrow night the alarm bells will be tinkling. Assuming he's fit that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Keep him this window. No need to sell - Review in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 If he's not in the squad tomorrow night the alarm bells will be tinkling. Assuming he's fit that is. Didn't he get injured against Liverpool? I thought JWP and Jrod both picked up knocks in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Didn't he get injured against Liverpool? I thought JWP and Jrod both picked up knocks in that game. Yes you're right and just watching the clip of them training at Staplewood today he didn't appear to feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Something is not right with Jay & SFC just now, you can pick that up from his families posts on twitter. He's scoring goals when he plays, but despite injuries to others hes played very little in the league 22 games into the season and hes played the full 90 just 3x and in total 600 miniutes or the equivalent of 6.5 league games His recovery would have been grueling and he wants to play regular football - i can understand why hed be pi**ed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Didn't he get injured against Liverpool? I thought JWP and Jrod both picked up knocks in that game. Looked like he couldn't run full flow from 5-10 mins on in that game, think he picked it up then early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 He's scoring goals when he plays - Is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Adam Blackmore says he wouldn't be surprised if he went as he has heard he wants to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 We play a formation with 1 striker, we don't really need 4 senior strikers for a 433 system. It won't be overly long until Austin is back, so fitting Austin, Gabbiadini, Long & Rodriguez in to a match-day squad of 18 isn't easy when we also have Boufal, Redmond, Tadic & Sims for the 2 wide positions in the 433 system. - Play 2 upfront and you need 4 senior strikers in the squad - Play 1 upfront like Saints do and you only really need 3 senior strikers in the squad Any more that that and it bloats the squad a little, senior players aren't even making the matchday squad of 18 and get unhappy. Saturday proved we need as much strength in depth as possible. Because let's face it, there isn't much in reserve currently. So what if senior pro's don't make the matchday squad? It's up to them to get back into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Is he? 4 goals in the league, as above hes only been given 600 minutes or 6.5 games 4 goals in 6.5 games isn't bad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Saturday proved we need as much strength in depth as possible. Because let's face it, there isn't much in reserve currently. So what if senior pro's don't make the matchday squad? It's up to them to get back into it. Maybe with Seagar getting fit again and the club wanting as many academy in match day squad we are cashing in before any more injuries. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Something is not right with Jay & SFC just now, you can pick that up from his families posts on twitter. Agree - the tweets/re-tweets have been quite telling. I expect him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Be a strange one, would've thought a move for him would've come back in the summer when maybe we weren't sure if he'd find his fitness again. Would be strange given that he has shown bits of his old self to now move him on at what is not a substantial amount of money. But who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Agree - the tweets/re-tweets have been quite telling. I expect him to leave. His dad just said he's very happy but doesn't say here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Question is, if he has fallen down the pecking order here, is he really going to be at the top of the pecking order at WBA? He has fallen down for a reason which is obvious to all - best part of 2 years being injured. And while he has scored a few goals, and seems to be getting better, he still isn't where he was. I think as a player, there are few if any that the supporters want to succeed more than him, what with him so nearly breaking through to the national side before his injury (although if he had, I doubt he would still be a Saints player!!!!!!!). So if he does go to WBA and doesn't start scoring, will he fall down the pecking order there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Heart says no, but head says get rid. I just can not see him getting back to anything like the player he was. To get £10mil for him is pretty decent business if you ask me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Heart says no, but head says get rid. I just can not see him getting back to anything like the player he was. To get £10mil for him is pretty decent business if you ask me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk £10 million decent business?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Adam Blackmore and Jay's dad seem to be in a bit of a spat on twitter at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Adam Blackmore and Jay's dad seem to be in a bit of a spat on twitter at the moment If I'm not wrong - Jay's dad was a bit of a erm lad on the terraces so Adam had best back off! [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 4 goals in the league, as above hes only been given 600 minutes or 6.5 games 4 goals in 6.5 games isn't bad..... Right but it isn't 4 goals in 6.5 games, it's 4 goals this season. Which is pretty bad. Anyway, I like Jay, he's decent and getting better and better over the season and I much prefer him to Long who should be the one to leave IMO if anyone is but lets be real Jay hasn't been good enough this season really. Apart from goals he's offered very little at times and his general all round play has been poor. BUT...when he plays well, we play well and he and we have got better lately. He'll get his chances here the rest of the season and he's got obvious qualities but if we decide not to keep him around for next season then unless he's had a storming end to this season he cant complain. I dont think play central really suits him anyway but he's been poor at times and has struggled to hold the ball up and bring others in. He's got better recently though to be fair. Personally I see him as quite a good option for us, especially his ability to start wide and cut inside. Looks like this new guy is similar from the right as well. I wouldn't be shocked if we start to see movements back towards a slightly wider diamond with these two coming in from the wings and Boufal or Redmond dropped in behind. We certainly have versatility and a bit more dynamism now. However Jay has his Saints future in his hands, he has to perform, and he's just started to do that consistently so hopefully that will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 Heart says no, but head says get rid. I just can not see him getting back to anything like the player he was. To get £10mil for him is pretty decent business if you ask me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If we were to let him go (and fwiw I'd persevere with him) it would have to be in the summer not tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 If I'm not wrong - Jay's dad was a bit of a erm lad on the terraces so Adam had best back off! [emoji23] You're right, Adam will lose that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 £10 million decent business?!?!?! I think so. If we'd signed him 2 years ago , we'd be snapping their hands off for that amount. All depends whether you think this season is his level or he can get better. I'm not convinced he can Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 If I'm not wrong - Jay's dad was a bit of a erm lad on the terraces so Adam had best back off! [emoji23] His Dad and brother appear to be a bit simple in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 £10 million decent business?!?!?! The guy is a dinosaur. £10M relative to the fees banded about at the moment would be a ludicrously bad deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 (edited) In my view he just starting to look like his old self - it would be crazy to sell him now. Is Kiko his Dad? Seems like he's a bit of a stirrer. If he's agitating for a move I'd be very disappointed having seen the club pay his wages and medical bills for the last two years. Edited 30 January, 2017 by AK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 30 January, 2017 Share Posted 30 January, 2017 His dad comes across as a right prat in twitter exchange with Adam blackmore Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 JR seems to have lost that explosive pace he had over 10-20 yards since his injury. Whether that is due to injury or confidence in his body I don't know. 10m quid would seem slightly cheap but try to look how he is playing now, and not how he played before the injury. Its a shame really as was quality then and even linked with big money moves away at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Keep him this window. No need to sell - Review in the summer. We need to sell to fund other deals . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Right but it isn't 4 goals in 6.5 games, it's 4 goals this season. Which is pretty bad. . compare that to redmond/Long..... be ridiculous to get rid of rodriguez now. wait till the summer if he/we want to part ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Before Austin got injured quite a few posters were happy to get rid of Jrod. I'd be inclined to keep him, play him see if his form improves, and then decide on his future in the summer depending on how he has done. I can see him going though if we have this new bloke from Italy, Long and Jrod and now only one game a week two of them are going to be unhappy with their game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 It's a nobrainer hold off until summer see how he gets on. If he wants out £15million+ and bring seager / Sam G through. Line up a young blackbox replacement. Happy days or sign Plea / Haller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Before Austin got injured quite a few posters were happy to get rid of Jrod. I'd be inclined to keep him, play him see if his form improves, and then decide on his future in the summer depending on how he has done. I can see him going though if we have this new bloke from Italy, Long and Jrod and now only one game a week two of them are going to be unhappy with their game time. maybe Gabbiadini is the J-Rod replacement? I feel massively sorry for him, but I fear he may never recover from his injury. I fail to see how he is worth so much, his good season was 2013-14, quite a while ago. To be honest, if he went to West Brom today I really can't see him scoring many. And in a years time we will be saying we were right to get rid. It's a bit risky, but it looks like we will be ok to avoid relegation, and we can use Long for the EFL final, who I don't feel is any better/worse than J-Rod. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Pulis said yesterday that there wouldn't be any more permanent signings done in this window by WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Pulis said yesterday that there wouldn't be any more permanent signings done in this window by WBA. So loan for Jay rod with option to buy? Who knows? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 His dad comes across as a right prat in twitter exchange with Adam blackmore Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Having just picked my way through those tweets last night it seems the conclusion is, from his Dad at least, that Jay is going no where. His tweeting of the rumour seems to be just an endorsement that his son is wanted. A bit of family PR. Or maybe I misunderstood it. Poxy Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Tbh I've been calling for a new striker for ages not because I felt we were short of numbers but because none of ours have been very good this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Hi Dad also said he'll be fine for Saturday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 We are ridiculously short of goals so would be crazy to sell a striker even if we are bringing one in. We have a lot of injuries - we're another injury short of a bit of a crisis up front (like we are at the back). Seems very arrogant of J-Rod to be pushing for a move when we helped rehabilitate him for 2 years, gave him a new massive contract during that time and have got a goal for god knows how many hundreds of thousands of pounds we've paid him. He wasn't playing previously because he looked poor and well off the pace in the early games of the season, and we had a striker scoring goals. Has looked better (and much fitter) recently and is hence getting games. He's still being rotated as he has tired near the end of games and we need to manage his fitness as he'll hopefully keep getting fitter and stronger. Would be a shame if he left but you never know in football I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Supposedly rejected £12m from WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 I'd give them J Rod and 10m for Rondon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Rondon is being chased for £28-30m by China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Rondon is being chased for £28-30m by China Well that's too much...iIstill like Llorente myself and will continue to champion him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 Spurs in for him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 He is not getting anywhere near Spurs first team on current form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 January, 2017 Share Posted 31 January, 2017 He is not getting anywhere near Spurs first team on current form Is he any worse than Janssen...but yeah if his ony goal is regular football spurs would be a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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