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Mr X

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we should win.

although, they got a fortunate point against chelsea and may take comfort from that. We were very hard done by at Arsenal.

 

big game for both sides and a draw would be a bad result for us IMO

 

Agreed no disrespect to swansea who are a good side at times but we should be taking 3 points

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Dalek2003

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It's pretty vital that we win this to Get the season going. Afterwards we've got 2 away so we want already be on 5 points.

It won't be easy, as Swansea whilst erratic aren't that bad a side.

I'd start long and hojberg and use Jrod as an impact sub otherwise sat team. I don't manager abandoning the formation yet sadly.

 

I think they are an equal team to Saints in terms of players so luck and tactics of the manager will play their part. Probably a draw.

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Just how important is this game now in the scheme of things? will the players get despondent with puel should we lose again?

What team & formation would you start?

 

I'm not remotely bothered whether we win or not as long as we play well and don't get stuffed. I want us to beat Sparta about 100 times more.

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I'm not remotely bothered whether we win or not as long as we play well and don't get stuffed. I want us to beat Sparta about 100 times more.

 

In the greater scale of things, beating Swansea is far more important. We must try and hold on to our Premier status. Europe and the Cups are side shows.

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In the greater scale of things, beating Swansea is far more important. We must try and hold on to our Premier status. Europe and the Cups are side shows.

 

Agreed Id rather beat swansea, europe is great don't get me wrong but we are never going to realistically go far in it anyway especially judging by our league performances

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I'm not remotely bothered whether we win or not as long as we play well and don't get stuffed. I want us to beat Sparta about 100 times more.

 

So, let me get this right....we are in the bottom 3 of the league (albeit after 4 games), have a game against a team just above us in the table and you, as a supporter of the club, are "not remotely bothered whether we win or not". Seriously? Utterly bizarre.

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Agreed Id rather beat swansea, europe is great don't get me wrong but we are never going to realistically go far in it anyway especially judging by our league performances

 

The Club has shown no ambition over Europe, absolutely none as reflected in our modest summer transfer dealings.

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So, let me get this right....we are in the bottom 3 of the league (albeit after 4 games), have a game against a team just above us in the table and you, as a supporter of the club, are "not remotely bothered whether we win or not". Seriously? Utterly bizarre.

 

I think you know what he means and I would agree with him. Clearly we dont want to lose but this Europe thing is massive, how many chances are we going to get?

I couldnt give a toss about the PL, I'd take relegation with a EL cup final any day. I really cant get this excitement about finishing 12th, if we go down, we try and come back up, there is still a game every week (more) but what is it, people cant be without watching the likes of Arsenal and Utd? I really dont get this attraction to other teams.

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I think you know what he means and I would agree with him. Clearly we dont want to lose but this Europe thing is massive, how many chances are we going to get?

I couldnt give a toss about the PL, I'd take relegation with a EL cup final any day. I really cant get this excitement about finishing 12th, if we go down, we try and come back up, there is still a game every week (more) but what is it, people cant be without watching the likes of Arsenal and Utd? I really dont get this attraction to other teams.

 

We won't get to a Europa league final whilst losing most games in the league

 

It won't work like that.

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Although we could pass off the two away defeats as unfortunate (Mourinho on his OT debut was always going to get them fired up for it and Arsenal away was daylight robbery), failing to get at least one win against Watford, Sunderland and Swansea at home would signal a very poor start. All 3 seem fairly poor teams this season.

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Although we could pass off the two away defeats as unfortunate (Mourinho on his OT debut was always going to get them fired up for it and Arsenal away was daylight robbery), failing to get at least one win against Watford, Sunderland and Swansea at home would signal a very poor start. All 3 seem fairly poor teams this season.

 

Your right. Less than 3 points against Swansea and we really do need to be batton down the hatches.

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Although we could pass off the two away defeats as unfortunate (Mourinho on his OT debut was always going to get them fired up for it and Arsenal away was daylight robbery), failing to get at least one win against Watford, Sunderland and Swansea at home would signal a very poor start. All 3 seem fairly poor teams this season.

 

Indeed. If ever there was a must win six pointer it`s this one. To be fair.

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So, let me get this right....we are in the bottom 3 of the league (albeit after 4 games), have a game against a team just above us in the table and you, as a supporter of the club, are "not remotely bothered whether we win or not". Seriously? Utterly bizarre.

 

Yup, we're going to finish boringly midtable no matter the result against Swansea. Embrace the cups.

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Although we could pass off the two away defeats as unfortunate (Mourinho on his OT debut was always going to get them fired up for it and Arsenal away was daylight robbery), failing to get at least one win against Watford, Sunderland and Swansea at home would signal a very poor start. All 3 seem fairly poor teams this season.

 

Pretty much sums things up. I'm of the opinion that if we're 10 games in with only 1 win then we need to act fast and get rid of Puel. Sadly, I could see the club persisting for 3/4 of the season and then making a change with 10 games to go in an attempt to avoid relegation. Better to act quickly than let it drag on.

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I am hopefully confident. We have played decent all four games thus far, but what has let us down is bad finishing and frankly some bad luck. If we can fix that we should be a solid side.

 

Score one goal, and others will come. Put in a performance similar to the Arsenal match, and we should win comfortably.

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We won't get to a Europa league final whilst losing most games in the league

 

It won't work like that.

 

lol. So if you are doing poorly in he league you cant win any other competitions, think again mate.

 

I dont necessarily expect us to win the EL, my point is that we should prioritise it over the league. God help us if we get to the last home game again BS (with a chance of qualifying) and we play a weakened team because we want to move up to 14th in the PL.

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They're pretty crap but if you don't take your chances you can lose any game. We've created reasonable if not great chances in two home games, and had 2 goals, 1 very lucky. So something has to change. We're suffering from having off-form Long again. Feels like we banked on his form just continuing from last season despite him never having proven that.

 

I like him, useful striker to have but there have been a lot of games like Arsenal. They weren't half chances, that was 2 he should score and it cost us.

 

It's too early to talk of relegation, anything could still be achieved this season but a draw or loss against swansea and the pressure will ramp up. Don't really think the board are the sort of set up to take action like that though however fans get. All seems to be long term planning, no sackings yet but I suppose they haven't been tested have they.

 

Expectations of Long should be that he gets 12 to 15 goals per season, if he has a full season and doesn't net that amount he's had a poor season. He's not an Aguero or an Ibrahimovic, he's Shane Long and he's ours, he tries his little a**e off for us and he will get goals just not at the same rate as the elite strikers.

 

I saw enough in the Arsenal game to know that relegation really wont be a concern for us. I fully expect 3 points from the Swansea game but I'd take a win against Prague and a point from Swansea if it was offered now.

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Expectations of Long should be that he gets 12 to 15 goals per season, if he has a full season and doesn't net that amount he's had a poor season. He's not an Aguero or an Ibrahimovic, he's Shane Long and he's ours, he tries his little a**e off for us and he will get goals just not at the same rate as the elite strikers.

 

I saw enough in the Arsenal game to know that relegation really wont be a concern for us. I fully expect 3 points from the Swansea game but I'd take a win against Prague and a point from Swansea if it was offered now.

 

Going to adjust my thoughts on the Swansea game... We're going to smash em, I can feel it brewing.

 

Play the kids against Palace and smash them too!

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Forster

 

Martina

Fonte

Virgil

Bertrand

 

Clasie

Hojbjerg

Davis

Redmond

 

Austin

JRod

 

Subs: McCarthy, Cedric/Targett, Yoshida/Gardos, Romeu, JWP, Tadic, Long

 

Saints 2 Swansea 0 (Virgil, JRod)

5 Changes is quite a lot but a lot of players looked like they ran themselves into the ground last night. I would be surprised to see Austin start as he looked knackered, hope he does but if not I can see JRod coming in.

 

My Team

 

------------------------Forster---------------------------

 

Martina--------Fonte---------VvD----------------Bertrand

 

---------------------Romeu--------------------------------

 

-------------Hojbjerg-------Davis-------------------------

 

--------Redmond-----------------Long--------------------

 

----------------------Austin--------------------------------

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Forster

Martina Fonte VVD Bertrand

Romeu/Clasie

Hjoberg Davis/JWP

Tadic

Long Austin

 

JRod might have to be happy being a super sub for a few games as I think we need someone with pace up top with either him or Austin. Redmond/Long Austin/JRod.

 

A Boufal on the bench would be good!

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As well as Martina played, i'd start Cedric on sunday. He'll be fresher and that was purely the logic of rotating as they did yesterday(which i hoped they would do).

 

I assume we'll stick to the diamond so i think it'll probably be something like:

 

Forster

Cedric Van Dijk Fonte Bertrand

Clasie

Hojberg Davis

Tadic

Austin Redmond

 

Subs, Mccarthy, Yoshida, Romeu, JWP, Long, Jrod, Martina

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I think Puel will go with...

 

              Forster

Cedric   Fonte  van Dijk   Bertrand

          Romeu

     Davis   Clasie

         Tadic

    Redmond   Rodriguez

 

He made 7 changes yesterday for a reason, that reason probably to save the majority of his preferred XI for the Swansea game. Not to start the majority of players that played on Thursday twice in quick succession.

 

In today's press conference he hinted Rodriguez may be a doubt, so Long or Austin in for him.

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I think Puel will go with...

 

              Forster

Cedric   Fonte  van Dijk   Bertrand

          Romeu

     Davis   Clasie

         Tadic

    Redmond   Rodriguez

 

He made 7 changes yesterday for a reason, that reason probably to save the majority of his preferred XI for the Swansea game. Not to start the majority of players that played on Thursday twice in quick succession.

 

In today's press conference he hinted Rodriguez may be a doubt, so Long or Austin in for him.

 

I think that's probably right. I would expect Hojbjerg and JWP to be replaced and obviously for Fonte and Bertrand to come back in. Personally, unless Martina is feeling after effects from Thursday I would start him over Cedric. I think Cedric needs a kick up the arse. He could come back in against Palace.

 

Probably one of Long or Austin, with Redmond in the accompanying forward role - the only caveat would be if Redmond impressed enough in the "10" position last night to replace Tadic. If Rodriguez in ruled out then I would expect it to be Long and Redmond because of how tired Austin looked.

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Puel's presser

 

Good confidence around the training ground

we have to do good work to win our games

we have had a lot of disappointment and frustration in our games so far

a draw or a loss has not been good for us and we deserved more

important to take all games in consideration, all the players in the squad are important

this month has a lot of games

it is impossible for all the players to play all the games

no problem for me in changing the team

players must keep their good attitude

premier league is difficult, so many good players and teams

1 player can make the difference and swansea are a good side with good players

they also had the week off

Sigurdsson and Loriente are good players

It is important that we play our game and concentrate

Austin played most of the game last night, he must recover well

we have different solutions on the bench, it is an interesting situation

Charlie scored as did Rodriguez

Shane had a good game, good running with an assist

it is not all about the offensive players to score, we have to score as a team

at my different clubs, there have been about 15-16 different goal scorers each season

Jay may be a doubt for tomorrow

it will be important to get a win against swansea, we have to keep the good work going

this is a good challenge to be here, I concentrate on my team and players

this is a very exciting season, we have many games and the players have to learn to cope with that

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BBC build up

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37331445

 

interesting stat I thought

 

◾Only Chelsea (seven) have allowed their opponents fewer shots on target than Southampton (10) in the first four matches of the season, but Saints have conceded six goals.

 

We've allowed the opposition only 10 shots on goal but let in 6 goals (of course three of those have been pens). that stat kind of gives me hope that if we can cut out giving away pens we should be pretty hard to beat.

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Puel's presser

 

Good confidence around the training ground

we have to do good work to win our games

we have had a lot of disappointment and frustration in our games so far

a draw or a loss has not been good for us and we deserved more

important to take all games in consideration, all the players in the squad are important

this month has a lot of games

it is impossible for all the players to play all the games

no problem for me in changing the team

players must keep their good attitude

premier league is difficult, so many good players and teams

1 player can make the difference and swansea are a good side with good players

they also had the week off

Sigurdsson and Loriente are good players

It is important that we play our game and concentrate

Austin played most of the game last night, he must recover well

we have different solutions on the bench, it is an interesting situation

Charlie scored as did Rodriguez

Shane had a good game, good running with an assist

it is not all about the offensive players to score, we have to score as a team

at my different clubs, there have been about 15-16 different goal scorers each season

Jay may be a doubt for tomorrow

it will be important to get a win against swansea, we have to keep the good work going

this is a good challenge to be here, I concentrate on my team and players

this is a very exciting season, we have many games and the players have to learn to cope with that

 

Really?

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Think it's a game we would win with last seasons squad but I think we are about the same level as Swansea this year. I'm going 1-1 draw

 

I think the big clubs are much stronger this season and there's a bunch of smaller teams who are weaker than before. Us, west brom, Stoke (Be ok once Bony gets going), Sunderland, Swansea and possibly Palace

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I think we have played really well with Long and Jay Rod upfront, however Austin has deserves to keep his place.

 

I would replace Yoshida and Targett for Bertrand and Fonte as they should start without saying, however the others I am stuck.

 

Forster Bertrand Fonte VVD Martina Romeu Hojberg Redmond Tadic Austin/Long Jay Rod. Subs McCarthy, Cedric, Yosh, S.Davis, JWP, Clasie, Long/Austin.

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In combination of encouraging competition, being sensible and wishful thinking;

-------------Forster-----------------

Martina, Van Dijk, Fonte, Bertrand

------------Romeu------------------

---Davis,-------------- Tadic--------

-----------Redmond-----------------

------Long,---------- Austin --------

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It can be argued that the problem is still a lack of a recognised goal-scorer. Looking at Premier League goals only, Long has 43 in 206, JRod has 22 in 82, Austin has 19 in 45 to compare with Pelle with 23 in 68 and Mane with 23 in 70. Austin appears to be the only one with a half-way acceptable level. However, the Saints made up for the shortfall last season by many players chipping in. Not sure that we are any worse off than last season so just need all the team to start believing they can repeat it. It may be that Austin and JRod aren't fit enough to start this game but would like to see them given a chance.

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