Agents Role in Football

[spyinthesky]

Interesting article in yesterdays Sunday Times

 

Interview with Jon Smith of First Artist.

 

One bit that caught the eye

 

"You get reports of players on £100k a week. They probably aren't

Probably on £60k and then there will be bonuses of £30k if he is in the starting lineup, £20k if he comes on after 60 mins.

The interesting thing for me is to watch these games and think... 'is that a football substitution or a manager saving himself and his club £50k by putting the player on in the 75th minute rather than the start of the second half.

I don't think this is in the forefront of the Managers mind but I think it is part of the equation.

Likewise there might be a player he wants to encourage, who he knows is on a bonus contract.

So in the 90th minute they go on as substitute and earn 20 grand.

Look out for a certain transfer in January: if it comes off it will look incongruous but stem from a business strategy. There is a young English player (who he wont name but we can guess he plays for WBA) who almost moved between two middling Premiership clubs. The would be vendors wanted £20m and the prospective buyers were £2-£3m short with their bid.

Come January this player will be in the last 6 months of his contract and, as he is under 24, free to negotiate a contract abroad.

He will go somewhere like Belgium for a compensation fee of around £400k. He'll have a year or so to ply his trade there and then come back here for circa £10-£15m

The buying club will have got him cheap, his wage deal will be enhanced by a few million because there is a smaller transfer fee and his agents will end up with between £4-£6m"

[del boy]

Boufal's agent:

 

"so you go to a club where you'll play, to a club that's used to bringing through young players [southampton] and then eventually you go to those big clubs. They have sold 14 players to Liverpool, United and Chelsea."

[Gemmel]

The interesting thing for me is to watch these games and think... 'is that a football substitution or a manager saving himself and his club £50k by putting the player on in the 75th minute rather than the start of the second half.

I don't think this is in the forefront of the Managers mind but I think it is part of the equation.

 

Oxlade Chamberlain is a good example of this. In the transfer contract between Saints and Arsenal, certain payments were due based on how many minutes he played in matches,

 

He would be routinely wheeled out on 60 minutes (It might have been 65 or 70 minutes, but you get the gist) to avoid payments for playing over 30 minutes (Or whatever the figure was in the contract) . Saints then claimed injury time counted and (Cant remember what body / Association had to settle the dispute) whoever arbitrated the dispute found in Saints favour.

[Batman]

Oxlade Chamberlain is a good example of this. In the transfer contract between Saints and Arsenal, certain payments were due based on how many minutes he played in matches,

 

He would be routinely wheeled out on 60 minutes (It might have been 65 or 70 minutes, but you get the gist) to avoid payments for playing over 30 minutes (Or whatever the figure was in the contract) . Saints then claimed injury time counted and (Cant remember what body / Association had to settle the dispute) whoever arbitrated the dispute found in Saints favour.

 

it was something like £16,000 for those appearances.

[The9]

Interesting article in yesterdays Sunday Times

 

Interview with Jon Smith of First Artist.

 

One bit that caught the eye

 

"Look out for a certain transfer in January: if it comes off it will look incongruous but stem from a business strategy. There is a young English player (who he wont name but we can guess he plays for WBA) who almost moved between two middling Premiership clubs. The would be vendors wanted £20m and the prospective buyers were £2-£3m short with their bid.

Come January this player will be in the last 6 months of his contract and, as he is under 24, free to negotiate a contract abroad.

He will go somewhere like Belgium for a compensation fee of around £400k. He'll have a year or so to ply his trade there and then come back here for circa £10-£15m

The buying club will have got him cheap, his wage deal will be enhanced by a few million because there is a smaller transfer fee and his agents will end up with between £4-£6m"

 

I can't think of a single U-24 player that's run out their contract, gone abroad and come back to England better off. The closest example I can think is Colin Kazim-Richards, who was never a top flight English player, did well in Turkey, but hasn't come back as a top English player either.

 

There are also a bunch of assumptions about everyone apart from the selling club people being better off from this "year out" scenario too which don't necessarily add up.

[Dangermouth]

Interesting article in yesterdays Sunday Times

 

Interview with Jon Smith of First Artist.

 

One bit that caught the eye

 

"You get reports of players on £100k a week. They probably aren't

Probably on £60k and then there will be bonuses of £30k if he is in the starting lineup, £20k if he comes on after 60 mins.

The interesting thing for me is to watch these games and think... 'is that a football substitution or a manager saving himself and his club £50k by putting the player on in the 75th minute rather than the start of the second half.

I don't think this is in the forefront of the Managers mind but I think it is part of the equation.

Likewise there might be a player he wants to encourage, who he knows is on a bonus contract.

So in the 90th minute they go on as substitute and earn 20 grand.

Look out for a certain transfer in January: if it comes off it will look incongruous but stem from a business strategy. There is a young English player (who he wont name but we can guess he plays for WBA) who almost moved between two middling Premiership clubs. The would be vendors wanted £20m and the prospective buyers were £2-£3m short with their bid.

Come January this player will be in the last 6 months of his contract and, as he is under 24, free to negotiate a contract abroad.

He will go somewhere like Belgium for a compensation fee of around £400k. He'll have a year or so to ply his trade there and then come back here for circa £10-£15m

The buying club will have got him cheap, his wage deal will be enhanced by a few million because there is a smaller transfer fee and his agents will end up with between £4-£6m"

 

That was on the radio a few weeks back, but in more detail. Might still be in a podcast somewhere on the Beeb. It's after the one that was the Ibra/Pog love-in, so after we lost to the Mancs.