Anger and loud noises

[farawaysaint]

Hi, I've been a long time poster on the forum and have rarely lurked, but given the ridiculousness of some posts I've read following the previous match I thought I might as well chuck my opinion into the ring...

 

There has been a sudden and rapid snowballing of positivity on this forum. This has been aimed at a board that, albeit with a few personnel changes, has overseen steady and near constant player and managerial changes and at a manager who has so far not won a single game; even against a Sunderland side who have been shocking for years.

 

Now, I'm all for people being able to express their opinion even if it goes against the grain or is all smiley and rosey, but some people really do need to get a grip.

 

Firstly, the club has replaced each player who has left this summerwith arguably inferior replacements. (I haven't counted Ramirez as he contributed as little to nothing as you could possibly get to the last season and spent half of it not at the club.) Only time will tell if these players will be capable replacements, but surely we are allowed to express an opinion based on first impressions. I seem to remember Mane, Pelle and even Wanyama at points, all being heavily criticised with good reason as they were shocking at times.

 

Secondly, we have played three competitive games so far. Three. We have yet to win. I know it's a new season, new team, past results are irrelevant to now etc., but what I think is relevant is the comparison between managerial treatment. Koeman was arguably near the sacjk after that poor run. He had earned the fans' faith by then after a strong season in charge. I mean, come on, two points from six is 38 points across the season and that may even be enough to stay up.

 

Thirdly, we are Southampton. We are not a powerhouse in the football world. Players will come and players will go, often over only a two season term. It's a shame, obviously, but it's the reality of things except in most other clubs our size for some reason. Things are gradually improving, however. Whilst I think Pelle could have done a job for us for another season or two, he had slowly been phased out of the starting lineup by Long and would have been seen as below Austin in the pecking order this coming season. For me, we've lost two guaranteed starters this summer (Mane, Wanyama) and haven't really replaced them adequately.

 

Finally, our performances to date this season have really been bad from what I've seen. Heck if you look at the statistics alongside them you'd say we've actually been a bit lucky. Yes I know lies, damned lies and all that, but it really hasn't been the 'Propaganda football' some have claimed; it's not like we've been having hundreds of pot shots from forty yards because we haven't been taking any shots of note at all. Van Dijk and Fonte have been tapping it back and forth to each other in front of goal and inviting errors which is a joy to watch. We've had solid moments of play in all three games followed by truly shocking periods for most of the match.

 

Anyway, this post is starting to become long winded, so I'll cut to the chase: Fans are entitled to an opinion.

 

Apologies to SaintSeb, this is all a bit of fun

 

I'm a bit bored of both sides of the debate truth be told.

[Dalek2003]

Hi, I've been a long time poster on the forum and have rarely lurked, but given the ridiculousness of some posts I've read following the previous match I thought I might as well chuck my opinion into the ring...

 

There has been a sudden and rapid snowballing of positivity on this forum. This has been aimed at a board that, albeit with a few personnel changes, has overseen steady and near constant player and managerial changes and at a manager who has so far not won a single game; even against a Sunderland side who have been shocking for years.

 

Now, I'm all for people being able to express their opinion even if it goes against the grain or is all smiley and rosey, but some people really do need to get a grip.

 

Firstly, the club has replaced each player who has left this summerwith arguably inferior replacements. (I haven't counted Ramirez as he contributed as little to nothing as you could possibly get to the last season and spent half of it not at the club.) Only time will tell if these players will be capable replacements, but surely we are allowed to express an opinion based on first impressions. I seem to remember Mane, Pelle and even Wanyama at points, all being heavily criticised with good reason as they were shocking at times.

 

Secondly, we have played three competitive games so far. Three. We have yet to win. I know it's a new season, new team, past results are irrelevant to now etc., but what I think is relevant is the comparison between managerial treatment. Koeman was arguably near the sacjk after that poor run. He had earned the fans' faith by then after a strong season in charge. I mean, come on, two points from six is 38 points across the season and that may even be enough to stay up.

 

Thirdly, we are Southampton. We are not a powerhouse in the football world. Players will come and players will go, often over only a two season term. It's a shame, obviously, but it's the reality of things except in most other clubs our size for some reason. Things are gradually improving, however. Whilst I think Pelle could have done a job for us for another season or two, he had slowly been phased out of the starting lineup by Long and would have been seen as below Austin in the pecking order this coming season. For me, we've lost two guaranteed starters this summer (Mane, Wanyama) and haven't really replaced them adequately.

 

Finally, our performances to date this season have really been bad from what I've seen. Heck if you look at the statistics alongside them you'd say we've actually been a bit lucky. Yes I know lies, damned lies and all that, but it really hasn't been the 'Propaganda football' some have claimed; it's not like we've been having hundreds of pot shots from forty yards because we haven't been taking any shots of note at all. Van Dijk and Fonte have been tapping it back and forth to each other in front of goal and inviting errors which is a joy to watch. We've had solid moments of play in all three games followed by truly shocking periods for most of the match.

 

Anyway, this post is starting to become long winded, so I'll cut to the chase: Fans are entitled to an opinion.

 

Apologies to SaintSeb, this is all a bit of fun

 

I'm a bit bored of both sides of the debate truth be told.

 

Brilliant !!!

[Heisenberg]

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[Fan The Flames]

Hi, I've been a long time poster on the forum and have rarely lurked, but given the ridiculousness of some posts I've read following the previous match I thought I might as well chuck my opinion into the ring...

 

There has been a sudden and rapid snowballing of positivity on this forum. This has been aimed at a board that, albeit with a few personnel changes, has overseen steady and near constant player and managerial changes and at a manager who has so far not won a single game; even against a Sunderland side who have been shocking for years.

 

Now, I'm all for people being able to express their opinion even if it goes against the grain or is all smiley and rosey, but some people really do need to get a grip.

 

Firstly, the club has replaced each player who has left this summerwith arguably inferior replacements. (I haven't counted Ramirez as he contributed as little to nothing as you could possibly get to the last season and spent half of it not at the club.) Only time will tell if these players will be capable replacements, but surely we are allowed to express an opinion based on first impressions. I seem to remember Mane, Pelle and even Wanyama at points, all being heavily criticised with good reason as they were shocking at times.

 

Secondly, we have played three competitive games so far. Three. We have yet to win. I know it's a new season, new team, past results are irrelevant to now etc., but what I think is relevant is the comparison between managerial treatment. Koeman was arguably near the sacjk after that poor run. He had earned the fans' faith by then after a strong season in charge. I mean, come on, two points from six is 38 points across the season and that may even be enough to stay up.

 

Thirdly, we are Southampton. We are not a powerhouse in the football world. Players will come and players will go, often over only a two season term. It's a shame, obviously, but it's the reality of things except in most other clubs our size for some reason. Things are gradually improving, however. Whilst I think Pelle could have done a job for us for another season or two, he had slowly been phased out of the starting lineup by Long and would have been seen as below Austin in the pecking order this coming season. For me, we've lost two guaranteed starters this summer (Mane, Wanyama) and haven't really replaced them adequately.

 

Finally, our performances to date this season have really been bad from what I've seen. Heck if you look at the statistics alongside them you'd say we've actually been a bit lucky. Yes I know lies, damned lies and all that, but it really hasn't been the 'Propaganda football' some have claimed; it's not like we've been having hundreds of pot shots from forty yards because we haven't been taking any shots of note at all. Van Dijk and Fonte have been tapping it back and forth to each other in front of goal and inviting errors which is a joy to watch. We've had solid moments of play in all three games followed by truly shocking periods for most of the match.

 

Anyway, this post is starting to become long winded, so I'll cut to the chase: Fans are entitled to an opinion.

 

Apologies to SaintSeb, this is all a bit of fun

 

I'm a bit bored of both sides of the debate truth be told.

 

yawn, hasn't this type of thing been posted hundreds of times.

 

Some people aren't happy at the moment, some people are happy to give it some more time, some people are never happy.

[Miltonaggro]

Nicola, is that you? We knew you'd come back to us... :-D

[Redslo]

 

Anyway, this post is starting to become long winded, so I'll cut to the chase: Fans are entitled to an opinion.

 

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Bah.