Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Wait and see, Boufal has alot of potential in my view. I’m still waiting for Gaston the last great one with “potential “ to come good. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 I’m still waiting for Gaston the last great one with “potential “ to come good. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Gaston never had potential and was a very bad signing. If you watched Italian football you could see this, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Did he turn up today for pre-season training? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Yes. Photo's up on the website https://southamptonfc.com/news/2018-06-28/gallery-southampton-pre-season-training-day-one-2018 Looks like him in the middle of photo number 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Who was the last saints player that was brought in (that wasn't a youngster) that did not have a good first season and then suddenly became brilliant? If nothing happens after 1-2 seasons safe to say it is not happening. Potential and moments are all well and good but have to lead to delivery and with the premier league competitiveness for survival (Or is that their are a lot of terrible/average teams of similar dreadfulness) you cant wait that long for someone to deliver if you are paying good money, because you can use that place, wages and transfer fee on someone else. If you are wanting to use patience for players to develop it should be the ones coming through our academy. Its not like every player we sign is going to be a Mane or VVD, but we have to accept that some are going to be an Osvalso and move them along instead of waiting for them to "come" good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Pictured in hoedt post Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Did Gaston ever get Goal of the Season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Boufal is def. there. He is in the video of the fitness testing bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Did Gaston ever get Goal of the Season? No but he did get 5 goals once, a feat Boufal has never gotten close to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Perhaps him and Hughes have sorted out their differences then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Perhaps him and Hughes have sorted out their differences then. I hope so. As Sofiane has the potential to be world class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 If Hughes can get Sofi and Gabbi both playing to their best, it might be quite decent to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 Of all the players last season, the one that genuinely excited me was Boufal. He tried things. He lost the ball, but he fought hard to get it back. His skill is not in question, so that would then come down to application and attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 If Hughes can get Sofi and Gabbi both playing to their best, it might be quite decent to watch. Would be like having 2 new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 The fact he’s back in training with the 1st team looks promising, although that does not mean he’ll not be sold if a decent bid comes in. Hope he reaches his full potential with Hughes this season because I think he has something special to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 28 June, 2018 Share Posted 28 June, 2018 The fact he’s back in training with the 1st team looks promising, although that does not mean he’ll not be sold if a decent bid comes in. Hope he reaches his full potential with Hughes this season because I think he has something special to offer. Yes, so do I. For those questioning his assist numbers; I don't have the stats but cast your mind back to the incredible control he showed before cutting back for Romeu to score. That was one of the best Saint's assists of the season. He is a ridiculously gifted player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He has had plenty of chances and not really taken them. Under three different managers he hasn't been able to hold down a 1st team spot that doesn't happen if you are playing well, training well and show a good attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 I’m in two minds about Boufal. On the one hand I think it would be difficult to find a player as naturally gifted for the money we paid for him. He is one of those players that, in flashes, has the tantalising prospect of being a world-beater. Given he hasn’t really demonstrated any consistency at all, and is generally quite maddening, it’s currently hard to see him achieving that, but then none of our attacking players have covered themselves in glory over the past two seasons. Maybe a fresh start with Hughes, in a less stultifying system, will be the kick-start he needs. However if we get a decent offer for him this window (given we are always knocking back enquiries!) then you’d have to look at the likes of Gaston, who never really kicked on, and say the reward may outweigh the risk involved. Difficult one. I’ll get off the fence at some point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 If they have made up then I think that Sofiane will realise he finally has a manager who wants him to play and build an attacking side and become a dynamic attacking force. After 2 managers of constant possession and slow build ups he may now have a chance to show what he is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 If they have made up then I think that Sofiane will realise he finally has a manager who wants him to play and build an attacking side and become a dynamic attacking force. After 2 managers of constant possession and slow build ups he may now have a chance to show what he is about. Yeah. I'm happy to go with Hughes's opinion on this. I do have my doubts about Sofiane's mentality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Not sure you can read much into him being back into training, any club that buys him will want him to have a full pre-season. I suspect his agent is still looking for a move. I suppose the issue is similar to Clasie, Tadic etc. The PL clubs riches work both ways, if your player is not going to another PL club or a big European club most of the others don't have £10 - 20 million to splash out, that is how we get them in the first place. So when we want to off load these players back to Europe, there are not many options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He has had plenty of chances and not really taken them. Under three different managers he hasn't been able to hold down a 1st team spot that doesn't happen if you are playing well, training well and show a good attitude.I agree. We had exactly the same comments as above regarding Gaston when he was here, "needs more of a run in the team" etc. In my opinion he has had his chances like everyone else, but clearly has not impressed enough to get ahead of the likes of Redmond and Tadic. He may prove me wrong (hope he does) but I would rather we move him on now if we can and get in someone fresh with a better attitude and more drive to succeed in the premier league. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 I agree. We had exactly the same comments as above regarding Gaston when he was here, "needs more of a run in the team" etc. In my opinion he has had his chances like everyone else, but clearly has not impressed enough to get ahead of the likes of Redmond and Tadic. He may prove me wrong (hope he does) but I would rather we move him on now if we can and get in someone fresh with a better attitude and more drive to succeed in the premier league. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk When he isn't nailing a 1st team place ahead of the likes of Tadic and Redmond even when they where going through very poor patches of form, there is something wrong. It is easy to just put it down to manager incompetence but to me it suggests a poor attitude that rubs managers up the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He has had plenty of chances and not really taken them. Under three different managers he hasn't been able to hold down a 1st team spot that doesn't happen if you are playing well, training well and show a good attitude. JWP plays well*, trains well and shows a good attitude and he hasn’t been able to hold down a 1st team spot under the past 5 managers. (*apparently) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 I'd far rather pay to watch Boufal than some donkey - hope he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 God, what a wet bunch of supporters we’ve got. The bloke refused to warm up when we were absolutely desperate and you’re still all gooey eyed over him. Blokes a complete and utter waste of space, he had a run of starts after the WBA game & did **** all. Stop making excuses for the show pony. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 God, what a wet bunch of supporters we’ve got. The bloke refused to warm up when we were absolutely desperate and you’re still all gooey eyed over him. Blokes a complete and utter waste of space, he had a run of starts after the WBA game & did **** all. Stop making excuses for the show pony. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Refusing to warm up is just a rumour that Boufal has flat out denied. As far as I'm aware, the club have never said anything official on the matter. I'm sure there was an argument about Boufal's attitude that got him into trouble, but the whole refusing-to-do-his-job thing just sounds like catnip gossip designed to excite the bigots among the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 God, what a wet bunch of supporters we’ve got. The bloke refused to warm up when we were absolutely desperate and you’re still all gooey eyed over him. Blokes a complete and utter waste of space, he had a run of starts after the WBA game & did **** all. Stop making excuses for the show pony. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk He’s clearly a talented player, you’d be stupid to suggest otherwise. Wether he’s suited to the PL/English football is another argument and on the balance of things you’d have to say no. However, he’s played under arguably our 2 worst/most defensive managers in recent times and IMO puel / Pell stunted any ability from our attacking players. All in all, from what I’ve heard he’s actually a decent lad as well. I hope Hughes gives him a second chance. The thought of an on form Boufal with someone similar the other side is pretty exciting. If he does stay, really is time for him to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Refusing to warm up is just a rumour that Boufal has flat out denied. As far as I'm aware, the club have never said anything official on the matter. I'm sure there was an argument about Boufal's attitude that got him into trouble, but the whole refusing-to-do-his-job thing just sounds like catnip gossip designed to excite the bigots among the fanbase. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/26/sofiane-boufal-southampton-mark-hughes-bust-up Depends how much you believe what you read and if these quotes are accurate. Of course the club aren't going to say anything, much like they didn't with the whole Osvaldo incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 God, what a wet bunch of supporters we’ve got. **** Forum hard man ALERT **** stand back people The bloke refused to warm up Did he? he had a run of starts after the WBA game He was given the full 90 in 1 of our next 11 games after the WBA goal. In fact he never played in two full consecutive games all season (or the season under Puel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 God, what a wet bunch of supporters we’ve got. The bloke refused to warm up when we were absolutely desperate and you’re still all gooey eyed over him. Blokes a complete and utter waste of space, he had a run of starts after the WBA game & did **** all. Stop making excuses for the show pony. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk If he's apologised and gets his head down that's fine by me. With Tadic gone who rarely if ever got injured we're going to need at least 2 players to replace his goals and assists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He’s clearly a talented player, you’d be stupid to suggest otherwise. Wether he’s suited to the PL/English football is another argument and on the balance of things you’d have to say no. This is it for me. I don’t really care how talented he is in France, Spain, Switzerland or wherever, he may just as well be talented at Basketball. Until we move the club and play in a league he’s talented in, he’s pretty much a waste of time for us. I’m willing to give anyone a second chance, but if you’re not good enough you’re not good enough. Nothing I’ve seen from him and nothing I’ve seen in Hughes coaching career ( in terms of developing Mavericks ala Bally with Matt), makes me think he’ll come good. If he does I’ll be the first to put my hands up and say I was wrong. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 He was injured a lot in the first season which obviously disrupted him, and then when he was fully fit played under a dour negative Pellegrino, probably got frustrated with his first two seasons and that boiled over. IF he knuckles down and works with Hughes, he can be a big player for us, if he decides that is what he wants to do. My gut feeling still is that he will head to France, but he's still young so I can't imagine we'd be willing to take a loss on him, and very few French clubs have the resources to afford him. Maybe a loan deal of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Good to see him back. Fresh start and all. Hopefully we make use of his talents and he turns situation around. Might disappoint a few in here the like of LIGHTHOUSE and co but their obsessions about him in particular will mean nowt if he starts tearing it up this season. Hopefully Hughes gets him going again. Get shaqiri in too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Good to see him back. Fresh start and all. Hopefully we make use of his talents and he turns situation around. Might disappoint a few in here the like of LIGHTHOUSE and co but their obsessions about him in particular will mean nowt if he starts tearing it up this season. Hopefully Hughes gets him going again. Get shaqiri in too! I have no doubt Boufal will absolutely rip it up this season. In Ligue 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Im sure the club would love to offload him somehow and that might be loan wise, i imagine in the first instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Im sure the club would love to offload him somehow and that might be loan wise, i imagine in the first instance. came back with positive attitude in training but may be to late lets see how china tour turns out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 The fact he’s back in training with the 1st team looks promising, although that does not mean he’ll not be sold if a decent bid comes in. Hope he reaches his full potential with Hughes this season because I think he has something special to offer. Pretty much my opinion word for word, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 ]If he's apologised and gets his head down that's fine by me[/b]. With Tadic gone who rarely if ever got injured we're going to need at least 2 players to replace his goals and assists Let's not forget that we let Puncheon get back on the bus (with an oar in his hand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 The squad was already too broad without much quality, so getting two attacking players in surely has signalled the end of the Boufal 'era'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 29 June, 2018 Share Posted 29 June, 2018 Would like to see him stay and prove people wrong. Has all the potential but needs to work harder and man up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 He isn’t going to China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 That would suggest to me that he is off then. Hard to draw any other conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 He isn’t going to China Yep. His work here is done. Hope we stop buying pretty ineffective egos like him and The Gash. Complete wastes of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Carrillo not going either. No big surprise, neither player even made it to the bench for the final run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 30 June, 2018 Share Posted 30 June, 2018 Yep. His work here is done. Hope we stop buying pretty ineffective egos like him and The Gash. Complete wastes of money No club has ever bought players that didn't work out. None. Not one. Never happens. Only us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 July, 2018 Share Posted 1 July, 2018 12m probably best we could get Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 12m probably best we could get Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk yep best to just get rid for what ever reason he hasn't worked out. I've got a feeling the club is trying to trim the squad and the wage bill this summer plenty more deadwood to get rid of yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 12m probably best we could get Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Can you please post a screenshot as I get... This account's Tweets are protected. Only confirmed followers have access to @reluctantnicko's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request. ... and I don't want to follow them, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire Saint Posted 2 July, 2018 Share Posted 2 July, 2018 Can you please post a screenshot as I get... This account's Tweets are protected. Only confirmed followers have access to @reluctantnicko's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request. ... and I don't want to follow them, thanks. The gist of it is that Nice have made a £12m offer for Boufal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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