Sofiane Boufal

[skintsaint]

That WBA goal gave us a glimpse of what he is capable of when he runs and takes on players. Why he doesn't do it more often when given the chance really confuses and annoys me.

[Saint Albert]

I seem to recall someone posting ITK info on here a few days ago about a bust-up between Hughes and Boufal. The Sun is reporting it now...

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6125782/southampton-sofiane-boufal-frozen-out-mark-hughes-dressing-room-bust-up/

[Monk]

I seem to recall someone posting ITK info on here a few days ago about a bust-up between Hughes and Boufal. The Sun is reporting it now...

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6125782/southampton-sofiane-boufal-frozen-out-mark-hughes-dressing-room-bust-up/

 

It was moi, he pretty much offered Hughes out.... 'allegedly'

[Lighthouse]

That WBA goal gave us a glimpse of what he is capable of when he runs and takes on players. Why he doesn't do it more often when given the chance really confuses and annoys me.

 

Because he is a useless showpony with a sh*t attitude who’s only contribution is fancy skills and running at people. Once a season or so a hilarious defender like Nyom will get involved, tackle his own team mate and Sofie-Anne will score a worldy. The rest of the season he just goes missing and throws a diva strop.

[davefizzy14]

It was moi, he pretty much offered Hughes out.... 'allegedly'

 

Any idea then Monk whether this situation can be sorted out as I want to see Sofiane back in the fold for Saturday.

[S-Clarke]

Any idea then Monk whether this situation can be sorted out as I want to see Sofiane back in the fold for Saturday.

 

Wouldn't expect him to ever play for us again tbh.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Any idea then Monk whether this situation can be sorted out as I want to see Sofiane back in the fold for Saturday.

 

You are taking the ****. The bloke allegedly refuses to warm up, that’s basically refusing to do his job, and you want to see him back. As some of us have said time and time again, the blokes a complete waste of time and money.

 

 

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[martin_au]

2018's Fabrice Fernandes.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

£60,000 a week. I'll just leave that there.

[Daft Kerplunk]

The famous player due diligence process wins again

[doddisalegend]

Because he is a useless showpony with a sh*t attitude who’s only contribution is fancy skills and running at people. Once a season or so a hilarious defender like Nyom will get involved, tackle his own team mate and Sofie-Anne will score a worldy. The rest of the season he just goes missing and throws a diva strop.

 

pretty much this.

[Batman]

Thought Redmond was the Mane replacement? Its all very confusing.

 

Doesn't matter I suppose as all replacements have been poor or lesser standard.

 

Amazing that its actually cost us money - criminal almost

 

He was, The9 told us so and he was perfectly ‘fine’ with it

[JRM]

Another one to be filed under “shocking waste of money” that we have accumulated since being back in the premier league. In fairness to the club on this one I think he was very much Puel’s signing just as Osvaldo was Pochettino and Carillo was Pellegrino, we might as well have not bothered and just donated the VVD money to charity instead.

 

Let’s hope that WBA “wonder goal” is enough to persuade Leicester to buy him as a Mahrez replacement

[shurlock]

Another one to be filed under “shocking waste of money” that we have accumulated since being back in the premier league. In fairness to the club on this one I think he was very much Puel’s signing just as Osvaldo was Pochettino and Carillo was Pellegrino, we might as well have not bothered and just donated the VVD money to charity instead.

 

Let’s hope that WBA “wonder goal” is enough to persuade Leicester to buy him as a Mahrez replacement

 

Boufal wasn't Puel's signing. Boufal was identified and approached by the club before Puel joined - indeed Boufal thought he was signing for Koeman.

 

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/2946170/sofiane-boufal-would-have-joined-psg-if-laurent-blanc-had-stayed-agent

[Heisenberg]

Where has his reputation for a trouble maker come from?

 

Seen him labelled as a bad boy a few times, but not seen any specifics to explain why?

 

From what I understand, I think that the reputation is made up in your head.

 

Issues...

 

Couldn't really give a sh1t what a forum a team that has no affiliation with the player has to say. They will be completely wrong.

 

When your 5 minute research beats the "black box"

 

Yet another 'I wish I was wrong but........'

[Shandy_Top_89]

Redmond is unironically better anyway, despite the amount of ****e he gets from fans. Can anyone ever see Boufal scoring 7 in a season?

 

He is probably third in our all time list of worst ever value for money signings right now after Carillo and Osvaldo. Lemina is quickly getting drawn in to this list too, more because of attitude rather than ability.

[DT]

Another one to file under 'despicable human being'. No manager can work with these kinds of people. I.e spoilt brats who don't care

 

 

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[ALWAYS_SFC]

Another one to file under 'despicable human being'. No manager can work with these kinds of people. I.e spoilt brats who don't care

 

 

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Really... ?

[Dusic]

He has been one of the worst of the failed signings.

 

Less of an impact than Gaston Ramirez.

[Saint Pete]

Boufal is another classic example of a player only interested in himself, no team ethic whatsoever. Unfortunately not surprised it has come to this. He clearly has some talent but nowhere near as much as he thinks he does. I expect him to fade away from top level football over the next couple of seasons.

 

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[saints1988]

The famous player due diligence process wins again

 

Made me chuckle

[Saint Garrett]

Yep - definitely worse signing that Gaston, Gaston was actually pretty good in that first season under Adkins / Pochettino. Boufal has huge talent but doesn't want to be there and has bugger all end product.

 

Another huge waste of money alongside these...including Boufal thats about £145m largely wasted.

Carrillo (£19m)

Hoedt (£15m)

Lemina (£18m)

Gabbiadini (£15m)

Clasie (£8m)

Juanmi (£6m)

Austin (£5m)

Martina (£2m)

Gardos (£6m)

Forren (£4m)

Osvaldo (£15m)

Mayuka (£4m)

Ramirez (£12m)

[stevy777_x]

Boufal is another classic example of a player only interested in himself, no team ethic whatsoever. Unfortunately not surprised it has come to this. He clearly has some talent but nowhere near as much as he thinks he does. I expect him to fade away from top level football over the next couple of seasons.

 

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He ll go to Italy or Spain and absolutely boss it.

[miserableoldgit]

Yep - definitely worse signing that Gaston, Gaston was actually pretty good in that first season under Adkins / Pochettino. Boufal has huge talent but doesn't want to be there and has bugger all end product.

 

Another huge waste of money alongside these...including Boufal thats about £145m largely wasted.

Carrillo (£19m)

Hoedt (£15m)

Lemina (£18m)

Gabbiadini (£15m)

Clasie (£8m)

Juanmi (£6m)

Austin (£5m)

Martina (£2m)

Gardos (£6m)

Forren (£4m)

Osvaldo (£15m)

Mayuka (£4m)

Ramirez (£12m)

It's "The Southampton Way".....

 

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[doddisalegend]

He ll go to Italy or Spain and absolutely boss it.

 

 

Doesn't really help us though does it? It does seem a bit if a cliche but some players do seem to be better suited to certain leagues.

 

Maybe Boufal will rip up the Spanish league but he clearly struggles with the PL which then again puts our recruitment policy in a very poor light

[mrfahaji]

Yep - definitely worse signing that Gaston, Gaston was actually pretty good in that first season under Adkins / Pochettino. Boufal has huge talent but doesn't want to be there and has bugger all end product.

 

Another huge waste of money alongside these...including Boufal thats about £145m largely wasted.

Carrillo (£19m)

Hoedt (£15m)

Lemina (£18m)

Gabbiadini (£15m)

Clasie (£8m)

Juanmi (£6m)

Austin (£5m)

Martina (£2m)

Gardos (£6m)

Forren (£4m)

Osvaldo (£15m)

Mayuka (£4m)

Ramirez (£12m)

 

Those two are a bit harsh... £5m for 14 goals isn't too bad! £2m for a player who played a fair bit certainly isn't a waste either.

[doddisalegend]

Those two are a bit harsh... £5m for 14 goals isn't too bad! £2m for a player who played a fair bit certainly isn't a waste either.

 

 

Martina's price tag was worth it for the Arsenal goal alone..

[shurlock]

Those two are a bit harsh... £5m for 14 goals isn't too bad! £2m for a player who played a fair bit certainly isn't a waste either.

 

For 14 goals over 2.5 seasons...

[doddisalegend]

For 14 goals over 2.5 seasons...

 

 

Says a lot about our other attackers that despite that he looks likely to be our be our top scorer again this season. Two and half injury ravaged seasons and still ends up with the club golden boot two seasons in a row..

[Convict Colony]

1. The players dont create their price tag

2. I would say due to the management philosophy change of possession based football (this could be a result of mangers preference or what our football directors got as resources) that our set up and style has been that we have not got the best out of Gabbi/Boufal/Redmond/Tadic hell I bet even messi would struggle to score for us.

3. Boufal should of started a few games based on the fact that we need goals and he can commit people and open up chances, it feels like mark hughes has gone for the workman like option (aka the tony pulis method) from our playing pool to hopefully churn out a result

4. I am at peace with us being relegated now, I expect no comeback as out decisions over the course of this season especially have not deserved anything more.

[Pilchards]

For 14 goals over 2.5 seasons...

 

Compared to Shane Long’s 1 goal in 2,578 matches it’s pretty good.

[Saints foreva]

Compared to Shane Long’s 1 goal in 2,578 matches it’s pretty good.

 

And we paid £12m for him....

[Saint Garrett]

And we paid £12m for him....

 

Maybe I need to put Long in their too, but he scored at Anfield and what a moment that was...!

[Mr Saints]

Disgrace if true and he refused to warm up. Good on Hughes. It's about time someone at the club gets tough on these overpaid *****s.

[shurlock]

See that Merrington still thinks Boufal is being mismanaged and played out of position.

[Shropshire Saint]

Yep - definitely worse signing that Gaston, Gaston was actually pretty good in that first season under Adkins / Pochettino. Boufal has huge talent but doesn't want to be there and has bugger all end product.

 

Another huge waste of money alongside these...including Boufal thats about £145m largely wasted.

Carrillo (£19m)

Hoedt (£15m)

Lemina (£18m)

Gabbiadini (£15m)

Clasie (£8m)

Juanmi (£6m)

Austin (£5m)

Martina (£2m)

Gardos (£6m)

Forren (£4m)

Osvaldo (£15m)

Mayuka (£4m)

Ramirez (£12m)

 

Although I would agree with most of that (I would exempt Austin from criticism and I think that Gabbadini has been mis-managed) I think that it ought to be put into perspective. Most other teams have spent big money on disastrous signings including some of the managers that are regarded as 'legends'.

[alpine_saint]

Any idea then Monk whether this situation can be sorted out as I want to see Sofiane back in the fold for Saturday.

 

Boufal can f**k off.

[Barry the Badger]

It's "The Southampton Way".....

 

We don't just buy success.

 

We try, but we aren't very good at doing it any more.

[egg]

Yep - definitely worse signing that Gaston, Gaston was actually pretty good in that first season under Adkins / Pochettino. Boufal has huge talent but doesn't want to be there and has bugger all end product.

 

Another huge waste of money alongside these...including Boufal thats about £145m largely wasted.

Carrillo (£19m)

Hoedt (£15m)

Lemina (£18m)

Gabbiadini (£15m)

Clasie (£8m)

Juanmi (£6m)

Austin (£5m)

Martina (£2m)

Gardos (£6m)

Forren (£4m)

Osvaldo (£15m)

Mayuka (£4m)

Ramirez (£12m)

Plus agents fees, signing on fee etc. Scary bit is that we'll still owe millions next season on many of them, and stuck with huge salaries on them. Chances are we'll pay agents millions to move them on, more millions to negotiate their release from excessive contracts and in reality lose money from getting rid. That, or keeping hold of disinterested expensive players as per Sunderland, is the reality of relegation.

[Rebel]

just think we could have signed Hakim Ziyech for about £8 million and Sebasatian Haller for roughly the same price. Those kind of players at roughly that kind of price are worth taking a risk on - same with Pione Sisto.

 

Overpaying for players like Boufal at £16 million (and injured at the time) and Carillo at £19 million is just ridiculous - they are not worth the risk.

[egg]

just think we could have signed Hakim Ziyech for about £8 million and Sebasatian Haller for roughly the same price. Those kind of players at roughly that kind of price are worth taking a risk on - same with Pione Sisto.

 

Overpaying for players like Boufal at £16 million (and injured at the time) and Carillo at £19 million is just ridiculous - they are not worth the risk.

To be fair Boufal was/is a good player, although he's been poor for us. Carrillo though is shocking, not one good attribute and our worst ever transfer decision in my opinion.

[Window Cleaner]

To be fair Boufal was/is a good player, although he's been poor for us. Carrillo though is shocking, not one good attribute and our worst ever transfer decision in my opinion.

 

The required defensive contribution is just too much for the likes of Boufal. He's a flair player not a work horse. Can't help thinking that if our defence was better we'd get more out of the likes of Boufal and Redmond. As it is we're having to play at least 2 hard man DM/CMs and 3 at times.

[beatlesaint]

See that Merrington still thinks Boufal is being mismanaged and played out of position.

 

well up to a point he's correct, total waste out wide and as for mismanaged thats just about everyone since last July !

[mrfahaji]

For 14 goals over 2.5 seasons...

 

I'm not saying it's a great return, but the post I replied to was including him (also, I thought it was £4m) alongside Juanmi, Gardos, Forren & Mayuka.

 

For £4m, I'm not sure 14 goals (however long the period) is an obvious 'waste' of money when you look at some of the others. Hence why I also mentioned Martina.

[Saint Garrett]

Plus agents fees, signing on fee etc. Scary bit is that we'll still owe millions next season on many of them, and stuck with huge salaries on them. Chances are we'll pay agents millions to move them on, more millions to negotiate their release from excessive contracts and in reality lose money from getting rid. That, or keeping hold of disinterested expensive players as per Sunderland, is the reality of relegation.

 

Although true, I'm pretty sure it works both ways and given we've sold more than we've spent we're probably owed more than we owe.

[Chez]

Another huge waste of money alongside these...including Boufal thats about £145m largely wasted.

Carrillo (£19m)

Hoedt (£15m)

Lemina (£18m)

Gabbiadini (£15m)

Clasie (£8m)

Juanmi (£6m)

Austin (£5m)

Martina (£2m)

Gardos (£6m)

Forren (£4m)

Osvaldo (£15m)

Mayuka (£4m)

Ramirez (£12m)

 

"Where has all the money gone?" LOL.

 

That list goes a long way to explaining our fall from grace.

 

In terms of value, maybe you need to add on the total wages paid to present a real (and even more horrific) picture. 2.5 years of Austin on a circa £80k a week added to his £5m transfer fee totals somewhere around £15.5m. Those 14 goals haven't come cheap.

 

If Boufal is on £60k a week (I wouldn't be surprised if it was more), that's another £6.24m in wages over the two years to add to the £16m transfer fee. Eye watering figures for a player that was injured when we brought him here (why we did not wait until January I will never know)

[Saint-Beer]

See that Merrington still thinks Boufal is being mismanaged and played out of position.

I agree 100%. Boufal has bags of talent.

 

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[Pamplemousse]

He'll go to Leicester to replace Mahrez.

[Saint86]

I agree 100%. Boufal has bags of talent.

 

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Talent with what looks to be a very selfish mentality and no team ethic. Top 6 / top 8 squads can afford this. With our defence we simply cannot afford such a lazy player.

[Ewell]

Dismal signing, all considered.

 

Loads of ability but not suited to the PL, lacks a burst of pace or the desire to get away from someone and just far too inconsistent.

 

Massive disappointment and terrible Mane replacement.

 

I've said it since the first time I saw him play for us, he is a 5aside player, just full of flicks and attempted tricks that are high risk and often done in the wrong areas. He has no place in any Premier league football team.