ART Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 The Sun are reporting Hull are wanting to take Jay Rodriguez on a season loan loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Yes let's reduce our squad capability before Europa great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 He won't ever get to the level he was at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 He won't ever get to the level he was at. Don't see why not, just needs game time, couple of goals and the old Jay will be back Amazing the effect confidence has on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Yes, another Gaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 In my opinion he showed enough in the few minutes he was on to suggest that he can rediscover his ability. OK, there was not enough time to really assess him, but he was getting into good positions and showing appetite for the ball. It was just a shame that his teammates did not pass the ball to him when he got into some of those good positions. More significantly on one attack he showed real persistence in the box and almost created an opening. Admittedly just before that he showed a little fear of a crunching tackle coming in, but nevertheless, he did hold his ground and came out of the situation fine. The more he can have experience like that the more confidence he will gain that his injury worries may be behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Diffiicult to assess his capabilities now as his previous success was over 2 years ago. He looked good then - in a team that was playing well. If Puel continues to play two fast, lightweight strikers (Redmond and Long) then JayRod gets no place as a traditional style front man. He needs some more games in PL2 to help him find form, but it's no idea to let him go, unless we have a proven replacement " hidden away in the Black Box". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 He won't ever get to the level he was at. Thanks for that misinformation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Loaning out a player from a squad already lacking in numbers to one of our Premier League rivals? Can't see it tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 (edited) He's definitely lost an awful lot of his quality, but letting him go would confirm what we all know that the board have completely given up. We need MORE players not fewer. Can't see it happening, this would be too obvious and Reed/Liebherr are far more subtle with their destruction plan. Edited 20 August, 2016 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petts Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 He's definitely lost an awful lot of his quality, but letting him go would confirm what we all know that the board have completely given up. We need MORE players not fewer. Can't see it happening, this would be too obvious and Reed/Liebherr are far more subtle with their destruction plan. [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] "destruction plan". Brilliant Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Can't see it happening, this would be too obvious and Reed/Liebherr are far more subtle with their destruction plan. Definitely dinlow season in full swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Definitely dinlow season in full swing. Getting ridiculously cluttered up by clueless cnts. Think I saw the option the other day to mute or ignore in Tapatalk but buggered if can find it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Getting ridiculously cluttered up by clueless cnts. Think I saw the option the other day to mute or ignore in Tapatalk but buggered if can find it now. Click on poster > view profile > add to ignore list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Click on poster > view profile > add to ignore list But you will just use another log in for your tripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 But you will just use another log in for your tripe I only have one username mate, so nice n easy to avoid and ignore me if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 But you will just use another log in for your tripe Surely no one is sad enough to have multiple user names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Surely no one is sad enough to have multiple user names? Heisenglasgowberg...does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 The Sun are reporting Hull are wanting to take Jay Rodriguez on a season loan loan With about 13 professionals available I'm sure they will want to take anyone who's played over 50 Premier League games and looked decent at any point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 His dad responded to some questions on twitter about this rumour a couple of days ago and was sort of saying "I'm not saying anything, BUT wait and see" with lots of winks, etc. Sounds to me like there is something in this one and it could well go ahead. I don't think it changes much for us tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 His dad responded to some questions on twitter about this rumour a couple of days ago and was sort of saying "I'm not saying anything, BUT wait and see" with lots of winks, etc. Sounds to me like there is something in this one and it could well go ahead. I don't think it changes much for us tbh. Apart from leaving us with 3 strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Apart from leaving us with 3 strikers. Well, my view is that we need a striker (or two) anyway. I don't think J Rod is anywhere near being able to have the sort of impact we need from a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Well, my view is that we need a striker (or two) anyway. I don't think J Rod is anywhere near being able to have the sort of impact we need from a striker. Can we just go for Berahino, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Apart from leaving us with 3 strikers. One of them not being a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 He's been out of the starting line-up for so long now that you've got to wonder if he's ever likely to regain his previous form. I'm certain that he and the club have done everything possible to return him to fitness, but he's not a regular starter and I can't help but think that he may not be. I was absolutely gutted when he got injured at the etihad when he was practically nailed on for a place in the world cup squad, nobody would have deserved it more imho. But those type of injuries are very hard to come back from, and the time it takes must have a serious effect on the player as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 20 August, 2016 Author Share Posted 20 August, 2016 It makes sense him going out on loan if it gives him regular playing time. He's certainly not going to get that remaining at the club under the current formation. I'm certain Puel will be bringing in strikers from France or Europe that he feels will enhance the diamond formation. That means little likelihood of playing time for JRod and Austin either. One player I do forsee getting a look in is Jake Hewlett. I believe Puel has him lined up for fast tracking into the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 21 August, 2016 Author Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Screw SwiftKey. Should read JAKE HESKETH as the player Puel will fast track into the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Until he gets his form back or until we get another striker in ( should Puel really not fancy him), we should be using him to replace one of Redmon Long or Austin with 15-20 to go, I think Jay Rod will recover some of his old form and be good enough to start again and score goals and I would be gutted if he left, if in Jan he still does not look like he will be 90% of the player he was then maybe sell or loan him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 I think it makes a lot of sense for JRod to go out on loan but it's a shame as I thought he was going to be a very good player until his injury. He may still get back to a good level but won't sitting on our bench. I'm sure we will replace with some quality if we do let him go. I think the next youngster that will come through is Olefema ( or however you spell it!) rather than Hesketh. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Wba in for him too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 If we loan him out and then sell Fonte I am seeking a ST refund - seriously, why lose anyone when we have a Europa League campaign? Would be utter foolishness - and don't say we can buy in more/better, as they wouldn't gel until Xmas when it would be all far too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 How much is J-Rod worth? Difficult one to put a number on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 I only have one username mate, so nice n easy to avoid and ignore me if you want to. So you weren't Bournemouth Saint, original Bournemouth Saint, Glasgow Saint and heisenberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Being a Saints fan is not easy Every fc*uking summer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfurdent Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 With about 13 professionals available I'm sure they will want to take anyone who's played over 50 Premier League games and looked decent at any point. Hull will take anyone with a pulse. Saying that they have done well so far, respect to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 If we loan him out and then sell Fonte I am seeking a ST refund - seriously, why lose anyone when we have a Europa League campaign? Would be utter foolishness - and don't say we can buy in more/better, as they wouldn't gel until Xmas when it would be all far too late. In other words if all tabloid rumours about any of our players leaving come true but we don't sign anyone else. So far our net loss is one player on last years squad and I fully expect us to sign someone else before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 If he goes to west brom - we will be getting berahinio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 If he goes to west brom - we will be getting berahinio. Hmm... Very tempting. Would they both be loans, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Hmm... Very tempting. Would they both be loans, perhaps? Almost no chance. I'm fairly sure he will end up at Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 In other words if all tabloid rumours about any of our players leaving come true but we don't sign anyone else. So far our net loss is one player on last years squad and I fully expect us to sign someone else before the window closes. We are two players down. Players named in our squad for the 2nd part of 2015/16 season no longer with us: Kelvin Davis Stekelenberg Wanyama Juanmi Mane Pelle Additionally, we also had Ramirez on our books last season. Important to the JRod going on loan debate is that 3 of the above (4 if you include Ramirez) are attacking midfielders or forwards. Only one of our incomings (Redmond) is an attacking player. That leaves us 2 (or 3) attacking players down already (which would still give us a deficit if you are correct and we bring one more in). Having said that, maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing for JRod to have some loan time - PROVIDING we bring in at least 2 attackers, at least one of which should be a striker (say, Berahino or Ings). Given that JRod has been linked with 2 teams now, Hull and WBA, it looks as if him being loaned out is a possibility. Personally, I would rather it was to a Championship team and only for 3 months. However, I think only season long loans are allowed this year? (Hope I'm wrong.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Stek was only ever a loan to cover Forster's injury. Ramirez played about 3 games for us last year, you can't count him as a player lost. Likewise, Juanmi contributed sweet FA. In McCarthy and Redmon we have basically replaced 4 of the players you've listed. Hoj replaces Wanyama. Austin replaces Pelle Basically were left needing a replacement for Mané with Pied as extra cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Even in your ridiculously optimistic version of events, we're left ONLY needing to replace our best attacker with a week of the window remaining. That's a big ask, and still leaves us basically standing still quality wise in a league that's improving elsewhere. That's before we dwell on the fact no one has really replaced wanyama, Austin hasn't offered anything yet, our formation is making us weaker and our captain might not want to be here. Still, it's all amazing. How is it ridiculously optimistic? Why can't people see that Hoj is our replacement for Wanyama? Just because he can pass better and his second touch isn't a tackle half the time. Perhaps if he was black and got sent off for 2 stupid yellows at Old Trafford some people would be more convinced, I don't know but he is what we've got and I for one am pretty happy with that particular swap. Austin scored something like 18 goals for QPR at this level, more than Pelle ever managed, so it's reasonable to assume we might get something decent from him. Puel and his tactics don't have me convinced either but our playing squad isn't that far off. We do need to replace Mané and I would hope for someone a fair bit better than Redmond. Apart from that I'd say the squad looks alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 22 August, 2016 Author Share Posted 22 August, 2016 JRod going on loan to WBA provides the opportunity of him linking up with Ricky Lambert. This is something that may help JRod rediscover his old form easier. Any such move would definitely indicate Berahino in line for a move to Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 22 August, 2016 Share Posted 22 August, 2016 JRod going on loan to WBA provides the opportunity of him linking up with Ricky Lambert. This is something that may help JRod rediscover his old form easier. Any such move would definitely indicate Berahino in line for a move to Saints. Lambert is done at this level, so he won't be linking up with him at all. He barely gets on the pitch for them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2016 Share Posted 22 August, 2016 Lambert is done at this level, so he won't be linking up with him at all. He barely gets on the pitch for them now. I'm actually surprised he's still there. Are they just holding onto him until they sign a striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 22 August, 2016 Share Posted 22 August, 2016 Jayrod needs to play and a loan is the best solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 August, 2016 Share Posted 22 August, 2016 Lambert is done at this level, so he won't be linking up with him at all. He barely gets on the pitch for them now. He got on the pitch on Saturday and has signed a new one year contract I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 August, 2016 Share Posted 22 August, 2016 How is it ridiculously optimistic? Why can't people see that Hoj is our replacement for Wanyama? Just because he can pass better and his second touch isn't a tackle half the time. Perhaps if he was black and got sent off for 2 stupid yellows at Old Trafford some people would be more convinced, I don't know but he is what we've got and I for one am pretty happy with that particular swap. Austin scored something like 18 goals for QPR at this level, more than Pelle ever managed, so it's reasonable to assume we might get something decent from him. Puel and his tactics don't have me convinced either but our playing squad isn't that far off. We do need to replace Mané and I would hope for someone a fair bit better than Redmond. Apart from that I'd say the squad looks alright. Spot on. Except Hoj will be collecting yellows, hopefully not as stupid as some of Victor's. Hoj is definitely the more accomplished footballer, great buy from what I've seen so far. It's hard to see where Austin fits into the formation we've seen so far. I'm hoping that we're seeing the new formation to bed it in alongside the 4-2-3-1 that has Charlie's name all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 August, 2016 Share Posted 22 August, 2016 A fit Jay would be a huge plus for our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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