Murdock Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 I don't think he will pass the fitness test. His head appears to have burst in this picture. Since when has it been a requirement to pass a fitness test. :wink: Agustin anyone....... As long as he can add some much needed resolve in the back line he'll do for me. I always was easily pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 1.90 is around 6'1½ ..to be precise, and at 81 kg. he's not overweight either. he seems to have been playing regularly -even andd even got a few goals. if it wasn't top level stuff and one assumes that his Dutch wages weren't too high either. Let's hope he gives some stability to the back line. To be precise it's actually 74.803 inches. Which is approaching 6'3". All depending on whether you measure him when he's just woken up or after a tough day on his feet. Unlikely being a footballer mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Stupid statement. I assume you had similar comments on Crouch (before he came good), Bennett (before he came good), Williams (before he came good) etc. etc. Lancashire is not Sunday League standard and to suggest so says more about you than it does about him. There might be an argument that he is not yet ready for the Championship, week in week out, he's certainly no match for Man Utd's strikers, but I think he stands a chance of becoming a good footballer. Will he play for Arsenal or Chelsea, probably not - but are we Arsenal or Chelsea? Why is it stupid? I was one of those that thought Kenwyne Jones would come good when others were slating him because I could see the superb athlete. Bennett got better but what level is he playing at now? (give you a clue, it's below CCC). Who is Williams? The only Williams we've had playing for us is Paul (ex-Cov) who was steady for a season, Steve (who was brilliant but v.early on in my following Saints so couldn't tell you what he was like as a youngster) or the Welsh winger who went to Swindon. Lancashire just IMO doesn't have the attributes to be successful at CCC level although with the right coaching and management he might be late developer in League 2 say. John Terry proves you don't have to be quick as a CB but you do have to read the game, you do need to have some control and ball skills to distribute and you do need to be decent in the air. Perry has carried Ollie and even then he's collected 2 red cards from less than a dozen games and given away an awful lot of free kicks and we all know how vulnerable we are from those. If you look at another one of our youngsters, Gobern, he's raw but you can see the potential and I think Mills is another one that will go on and do well, albeit they've been exposed a bit soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Hang on a minute? You mean the manager has been allowed to select and sign a player? Lowe must be off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Why is it stupid? Because you have an opinion that does not somebody else's, that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 According to that Wikipedia article we have signed him on loan for the rest of the season, with an option to buy if we manage to stay in the CCC. Tall, very experienced defender, with many years of playing in the Dutch Eredivisie: could be an excellent signing if true, what with Pearce & Cork gone and Thomas & Svensson so rarely available. Of course, the last Dutch defender who was supposedly signed by us -- Ruud Knol -- never did actually show up here, so this may be just some smoke-blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Why is it stupid? I was one of those that thought Kenwyne Jones would come good when others were slating him because I could see the superb athlete. Bennett got better but what level is he playing at now? (give you a clue, it's below CCC). Who is Williams? The only Williams we've had playing for us is Paul (ex-Cov) who was steady for a season, Steve (who was brilliant but v.early on in my following Saints so couldn't tell you what he was like as a youngster) or the Welsh winger who went to Swindon. Lancashire just IMO doesn't have the attributes to be successful at CCC level although with the right coaching and management he might be late developer in League 2 say. John Terry proves you don't have to be quick as a CB but you do have to read the game, you do need to have some control and ball skills to distribute and you do need to be decent in the air. Perry has carried Ollie and even then he's collected 2 red cards from less than a dozen games and given away an awful lot of free kicks and we all know how vulnerable we are from those. If you look at another one of our youngsters, Gobern, he's raw but you can see the potential and I think Mills is another one that will go on and do well, albeit they've been exposed a bit soon. Surely if you could see the potential in Jones you can see the potential in Lancashire? He has a good build for a young lad, yes the timing of some of his tackles are off and he misjudges the bounce of the ball occasionally but that comes with experience. I'm pretty sure that after a year of playing in the first team he will be a good CCC player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsent Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 1.90 is around 6'1½ ..to be precise, and at 81 kg. he's not overweight either. he seems to have been playing regularly -even andd even got a few goals. if it wasn't top level stuff and one assumes that his Dutch wages weren't too high either. Let's hope he gives some stability to the back line. 1.90m is close to 6'3. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 1.90m is close to 6'3. HTH. Does it matter whether the conversion is right? 1.90m is massive, end of. I just hope he isn't a "Darren Powell" type of hard man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonbenali Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Surely if you could see the potential in Jones you can see the potential in Lancashire? He has a good build for a young lad, yes the timing of some of his tackles are off and he misjudges the bounce of the ball occasionally but that comes with experience. I'm pretty sure that after a year of playing in the first team he will be a good CCC player. I'm pretty sure that after a year of playing for us in the CCC he'd be a League One player! He should be on loan there now not making expensive mistakes for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Surely if you could see the potential in Jones you can see the potential in Lancashire? He has a good build for a young lad, yes the timing of some of his tackles are off and he misjudges the bounce of the ball occasionally but that comes with experience. I'm pretty sure that after a year of playing in the first team he will be a good CCC player. I hope you are right and that he is a later developer. I certainly want him to succeed as I do with all Saints players but time will tell and hope my early observations are proven wrong. I think the fact we are bringing this Dutch guy in tells us that he isn't ready yet but hopefully will improve from his exposure to first XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 good news - this guy is so good at heading the ball, he no longer needs to look at the ball Looks like he missed with the punch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 good news - this guy is so good at heading the ball, he no longer needs to look at the ball Smart Umbo kit though! Would have been a better away option than our dreary 'slate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Lancashire just IMO doesn't have the attributes to be successful at CCC level although with the right coaching and management he might be late developer in League 2 say. John Terry proves you don't have to be quick as a CB but you do have to read the game, you do need to have some control and ball skills to distribute and you do need to be decent in the air. Perry has carried Ollie and even then he's collected 2 red cards from less than a dozen games and given away an awful lot of free kicks and we all know how vulnerable we are from those. If you look at another one of our youngsters, Gobern, he's raw but you can see the potential and I think Mills is another one that will go on and do well, albeit they've been exposed a bit soon. I agree with your comments about Gobern and Mills, but I'm not sure I can write off Lancashire just yet. An awful lot of centre backs get better with age and besides he has hardly had ten games in a run yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Can we have a poll to decide whether that's come off his head or his arm please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Does it matter whether the conversion is right? 1.90m is massive, end of. I just hope he isn't a "Darren Powell" type of hard man. I think the point under debate is not the conversion of 1.90m but whether he actually is 1.90m tall. Wikipedia says he's 1.87m - 6' 1.5". Still tall but not "massive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Stupid statement. Lancashire is not Sunday League standard True. But if he practices enough we might be some day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Looks like he's re-enacting (sp?) the famous Willem Defoe scene from Platoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Lancashire is certainly better than Sunday league standard! He has only played about 12 games? In his entire career! Give the lad a chance. I agree in more ideal circumstances he would be out on loan to a lower league club to gain some experience. He's not ready for the championship yet, but that doesn't mean he won't come good given some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Can we have a poll to decide whether that's come off his head or his arm please? i think the little 'gem' in blue got to the ball 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 with BWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Say he's always been a Saint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 (edited) 1.90 is around 6'1½ ..to be precise, and at 81 kg. he's not overweight either. he seems to have been playing regularly -even andd even got a few goals. if it wasn't top level stuff and one assumes that his Dutch wages weren't too high either. Let's hope he gives some stability to the back line. I think you'll find 39.375 x 1.9 = 74.8125 or 6' - 2.8125" to be even more precise. Edited 8 January, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Say he's always been a Saint! Richie Cunningham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 I agree with your comments about Gobern and Mills, but I'm not sure I can write off Lancashire just yet. An awful lot of centre backs get better with age and besides he has hardly had ten games in a run yet. Agreed. I do find it astonishing that people feel able to pass radical judgements on young players that are part of a team that is obviously not functioning as a unit. A weak TEAM performance will put more pressure on each of its component parts and will make them look worse than they are. Man Utd last night anyone? Perhaps we can conclude that he's not an absolutely stunning prospect. But IF we'd have been able to blood Lancashire alongside a commanding CB behind a dominant CM pairing and supporting a strike force that were keeping the other team's defences busy, he'd do well IMO. He's played England U19 games alongside Michael Mancienne, who IS hailed as a stunning prospect. That makes him better than Sunday league for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 To be precise it's actually 74.803 inches. Which is approaching 6'3". All depending on whether you measure him when he's just woken up or after a tough day on his feet. Unlikely being a footballer mind... It is exactly 6 ft 2 and 8/10ths of an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Stimp Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Looks like he missed with the punch though. Disagree, I think he's hit him so hard he's spun right around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Is he allowed to play in our team? Has he had his working with minors police check done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 With him at the back and Saganowski up front we could finally have some bite in the team and a bit of leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 It is exactly 6 ft 2 and 8/10ths of an inch. Yeah i have a tape measure too. I also have a design package here. It is what i've said. Anyone else who cares to disagree can take the issue up with suck@myballs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Is he allowed to play in our team? Has he had his working with minors police check done? Thats what is holding up the Dailly one they put in Arthur instead of Christian and it failed first time on his CRB check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Yeah i have a tape measure too. I also have a design package here. It is what i've said. Anyone else who cares to disagree can take the issue up with suck@myballs.com I am neither in interested in the website or the partaking in sucking your balls, but do wish the record to show that Clogg head is 2/10ths of one inch under 6'3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 I am neither in interested in the website or the partaking in sucking your balls, but do wish the record to show that Clogg head is 2/10ths of one inch under 6'3". It's an email address... And i feel like i really should stress that whilst Clogg head is close to being 2/10ths of one inch under 6'3" it is actually the figure of 19.7% of an inch. I hate to quibble over tenths of an inch...but an ex girlfriend has left me scrabbling for whatever i can get... I'll get the micrometer out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 It's an email address... And i feel like i really should stress that whilst Clogg head is close to being 2/10ths of one inch under 6'3" it is actually the figure of 19.7% of an inch. I hate to quibble over tenths of an inch...but an ex girlfriend has left me scrabbling for whatever i can get... I'll get the micrometer out... ...and I don't want to pour pedant petrol on the fire but if you're arguing about the difference between 2 and 1 tenths of an inch under 6"3', aren't you actually into the realms of quibbling about hundredths of an inch, and not tenths as you had stated? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 dunno...i'm stoopid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 What is his current hairstyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StubbSaint Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Stupid statement. I assume you had similar comments on Crouch (before he came good), Bennett (before he came good), Williams (before he came good) etc. etc. Lancashire is not Sunday League standard and to suggest so says more about you than it does about him. There might be an argument that he is not yet ready for the Championship, week in week out, he's certainly no match for Man Utd's strikers, but I think he stands a chance of becoming a good footballer. Will he play for Arsenal or Chelsea, probably not - but are we Arsenal or Chelsea? lancashire is an awful player and i would be happy if he never played for us again , gives goals away week in week out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 lancashire is an awful player and i would be happy if he never played for us again , gives goals away week in week out Looks like Lancashire is becoming the next Davis/Wright/Higgingbotham/Telfer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over land and sea Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/team/?page_id=6587&player_id=193 Player profile being prepared for OS. Almost official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/team/?page_id=6587&player_id=193 Player profile being prepared for OS. Almost official. 'Citin! The news of us signing this guy and getting Saga back is making me all optimistic. I've made this mistake many times this season. When will I learn?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 He seems to be smarter than the average player: His loan agreement has an option for Saints to keep him "provided Saits maintain their Championship status". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Will he be in the squad for Barnsley game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/team/?page_id=6587&player_id=193 Player profile being prepared for OS. Almost official. Not sure it's the same player as we saw on this thread. He is now black and hasn't got a face. Another cheap option faceless appointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Will he be in the squad for Barnsley? I was rather hoping he might be in ours instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/team/?page_id=6587&player_id=193 Player profile being prepared for OS. Almost official. is he africa? he's darker than the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 I was rather hoping he might be in ours instead. Blimey you were quick,I've just edited it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Will he be in the squad for Barnsley game? If he gets his, ahemm, international clearance in time :smt044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Squad Number Zero as well. Good marketing ploy that! Different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 Squad Number Zero as well. Good marketing ploy that! Different. You come from nothing, you go back to nothing, what have you lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 8 January, 2009 Share Posted 8 January, 2009 What is his current hairstyle? Dunno, it looks horrendous. But, generally, the rule for centre halves is, the worse the haircut, the better the centre back isn't it? I point to John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho, Rio Ferdinand, Claus.... And whats all this arguing over his height??! Who cares if he's 6.1 or 6.3, either way he's taller than John Terry, but I'm pretty sure he's not as good. It makes no difference. Bairdy wasn't exactly a goliath but he was strong in the air. Lets just hope this guy can bring some solidity to our defence. One more centre back or right back in on loan and that should be enough to help us out. By the way, anyone impressed by Smith and McLaggon on Sunday? I thought they both looked dangerous when they got on the ball. Exciting times eh...! 5-2 win at Barnsley - Saga hat-trick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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