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Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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What I would pick:

 

------------Forster

Cedric Yoshida VVD Targett

-------Romeu--Hojbjerg------

Redmond----Davis------Tadic

-------------Long--------------

 

What I think he'll go with....

 

------------Forster

Cedric Yoshida VVD Targett

------------Romeu-----------

-------Hojbjerg-Davis

-------------Tadic

--------Redmond--Long--------------

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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What I would pick:

 

------------Forster

Cedric Yoshida VVD Targett

-------Romeu--Hojbjerg------

Redmond----Davis------Tadic

-------------Long--------------

 

What I think he'll go with....

 

------------Forster

Cedric Yoshida VVD Targett

------------Romeu-----------

-------Hojbjerg-Davis

-------------Tadic

--------Redmond--Long--------------

 

I agree with all of that.

mrfahaji

mrfahaji

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I agree with all of that.

 

Seconded! I had hopes that this 4-4-2 formation was trying out a possible alternative, but the extent that we've played it (have we played the 4-3-3 at any stage in the last few games?) suggests to me that 4-4-2 is very much plan A.

Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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Be interesting to see if we have a poor few games at the start of the season, whether we will revert back to 4-3-3.

 

Seems a big ask to get a new manager to come in, lost a few of our best players, change formation, and still be successful....

mrfahaji

mrfahaji

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Be interesting to see if we have a poor few games at the start of the season, whether we will revert back to 4-3-3.

 

Seems a big ask to get a new manager to come in, lost a few of our best players, change formation, and still be successful....

 

When you look at your two suggested formations, there wouldn't be a huge amount of adjustment required to go to the 4-3-3. The main change would be Tadic going to the left, but everything else would be a minor tweak. Funny how different they seem (notwithstanding different player instructions) it practice though!

Professor

Professor

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Unlikely they've been practising the diamond without an intention to play it and Watford looks to be an ideal opponent.

 

 

Long Redmond

Classie

Tadic Davis

Hojberg

Targett V.V.D Yoshida Cedric

Forster

 

Bench: McCarthy, McQueen, Fonte, Romeu, JWP, Austin, AN other

mrfahaji

mrfahaji

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Would be very surprised to see Clasie (assuming that's who you mean) suddenly thrust into the attacking midfield role, that is surely more unlikely than not playing the diamond...

Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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Unlikely they've been practising the diamond without an intention to play it and Watford looks to be an ideal opponent.

 

 

Long Redmond

Classie

Tadic Davis

Hojberg

Targett V.V.D Yoshida Cedric

Forster

 

Bench: McCarthy, McQueen, Fonte, Romeu, JWP, Austin, AN other

 

You would drop Romeu who has been our best midfielder for Classie who has contributed the sum of bugger all apart from looking neat and tidy?

Glad your not picking the team.

Batman

Batman

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You would drop Romeu who has been our best midfielder for Classie who has contributed the sum of bugger all apart from looking neat and tidy?

Glad your not picking the team.

 

Why on Earth would anyone put clasie in the 10 position?

West End Saint

West End Saint

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We have looked solid at the back against the Spanish sides hardly conceding a chance so that looks good

 

We lack a focal point for the attack we are constantly getting the ball wide in good positions and not crossing due to nothing to aim at which is a worry

 

We have looked very tidy in possession just wonder if we will score enough goals

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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Didn't Nice under Puel press quite high up the pitch?

 

Assuming Watford do play 3 at the back at the weekend, and try and build it from the back, we might be able to get some joy winning the ball high up the pitch.

Webby

Webby

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Lovren = £20m

VVD= £11.5m

 

 

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But 20m for lovren was a 2nd stage move. We bought him for 8m didn't we?

 

Saying that, vvd far better than lovren and pretty much every CB we've ever had!

eelpie

eelpie

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http://www.wfcforums.com/showthread.php?58542-Southampton-v-Watford-13th-August-2016

 

Blimey, they sound even less confident that some of us lot on here. FWIW I think our team doesn't have the same level of quality as last year, but we're still a good team. There aren't many better opening fixtures we could have had this season than Watford at home. I can see us winning this fairly comfortably. 2-0. Long MOTM

 

Theyr'e much better bedwetters than us lot.

sandwichsaint

sandwichsaint

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We've won on the opening day in all of our PL seasons just twice from 17 attempts, comfortably the worst stats %ge-wise in the whole of the league (yesterday's Sunday Mirror if someone can find it/link it).

 

A betting man might say one of two things: pile on Watford, Saints rarely win in the first game, or, in a contest with three reasonably equal outcomes there is a good chance of a sequence of 2/17 becoming 3/18.......

 

0-0 looks a good bet, 1-0 if we can nick one, 1-1 if we score and cock-up!

 

Haven't really seen much of pre-season other than some of the comments on here, the comments on the defense are reassuring, the comments on the lack of goals/creativity are concerning. Guess we will see on Saturday, a solid 2-0 would be just the ticket!

JRM

JRM

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Presumably Watford have sold out their end?

 

Yes completely sold out 3300 according to their website. We must give one of the biggest allocations in the premier league.

 

Rare for August home games to sell out so good to see. If the open up resale for season ticket holders a few more seats might become available with people being away.

 

My prediction 1-1 draw. Game between 2 managers who have no experience of the Premier league and still trying to work out their best XI

alehouseboys

alehouseboys

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Yes completely sold out 3300 according to their website. We must give one of the biggest allocations in the premier league.

 

Rare for August home games to sell out so good to see. If the open up resale for season ticket holders a few more seats might become available with people being away.

 

My prediction 1-1 draw. Game between 2 managers who have no experience of the Premier league and still trying to work out their best XI

 

That just sounds like they're 'rounding' up in a big way! Max visitors allocation is usually just over 3,100, it can't be any more because of the dividing barrier in the concourse and segregation netting behind the goal. The only way they could get another couple of hundred seats is if the club are just going to use a line of stewards to separate rival fans. I guess Watford fans may be seen as low risk.

ericofarabia

ericofarabia

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That just sounds like they're 'rounding' up in a big way! Max visitors allocation is usually just over 3,100, it can't be any more because of the dividing barrier in the concourse and segregation netting behind the goal. The only way they could get another couple of hundred seats is if the club are just going to use a line of stewards to separate rival fans. I guess Watford fans may be seen as low risk.

 

Are you joking ... if The Brimson (?) Brothers are to be believed, they are The Top Firm ever. :mcinnes:

Verbal Kint

Verbal Kint

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Think we'll either draw 0-0 or lose 1-0. The manager has already made a big error IMO in choosing a formation that doesn't suit the important players in the team and I think we'll struggle to score goals or even create chances. The back 8 looks fairly solid when all are fit so i expect a fairly dull season as it stands with a lot of low scoring games

benjii

benjii

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Many reckon we will start with both Targett and Yoshida?! We will be in for a long afternoon :(

 

Well, Bertrand is definitely out so Targett is a given. Fonte may be fit enough but if he isn't then Yoshida will play. Obviously not ideal but no need to panic.

Saint_Ash

Saint_Ash

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Think we'll either draw 0-0 or lose 1-0. The manager has already made a big error IMO in choosing a formation that doesn't suit the important players in the team and I think we'll struggle to score goals or even create chances. The back 8 looks fairly solid when all are fit so i expect a fairly dull season as it stands with a lot of low scoring games
Why are Watford better than us? Having us lose you think they are a better team, what players have they brought in to suggest that?
Verbal Kint

Verbal Kint

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Why are Watford better than us? Having us lose you think they are a better team, what players have they brought in to suggest that?

 

I don't think they have a better team, but the better team doesn't always win. I just don't think they'll be set up as badly we will be. Hope I'm wrong on that one. On top of that we are without Bertrand, with Fonte and Cedric have played only 45 mins each of pre-season, I get the feeling the season is coming too soon for us and a few other clubs who had players going deep in the euros.

trousers

trousers

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Forster

Cedric

Fonte

VvD

Targett

Hojbjerg

Romeu

Davis

Tadic

Redmond

Long

 

Subs: McCarthy, McQueen, Yoshida, Clasie, JWP, Rodriguez, Austin

 

Saints 0 Watford 0

nta786

nta786

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If it is true that we are giving the tickets to them for just £20 then ofc we will sell out at max capacity. I hope the Northam and Itchen will be ready for some high volume chanting.

 

We must be the nicest club in the Prem, sell our players regularly and now subsidise the away fans at SMS to £20.

stu0x

stu0x

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Many reckon we will start with both Targett and Yoshida?! We will be in for a long afternoon :(

We played 3 centre backs against Watford last season as they play two forwards. So wouldn't be that surprising to see the same again with Targett as left wing back.

Batman

Batman

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What I don't get with the diamond, is the lack of parternships. That's what a good central midfield is built on and we've had it go really well for us. I can't work out who plays where. Romeu, Clasie and Hojbjerg could all play the DM role, or in front of that, but then do you need three, would Davis play deeper, would we lose his link play further forward. It all just looks like a congested mess to me but guess we'll see in the next few weeks!

 

I just like width really, whether 442, 4411 or 4231 or 433. I don't recall 41212 working anywhere but football manager. Seems like something a panicked hodgson would do.

 

I think the diamond would work in the league. But I really do not think we have the players to do that over a stretch of games.

 

Seeing Austin drop well wide is just bizarre

Long will do well in this system, jrod should do.

 

Redmond not sold on at all. Neither were many of the posters on here as there was little love for him in another thread below about relegated players we would want

 

Get a cracking no.10 and we could be in business but move tadic centrally, Austin dropping wide and Redmond playing as a striker is a bit odd

 

We shall see

mrfahaji

mrfahaji

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What I don't get with the diamond, is the lack of parternships. That's what a good central midfield is built on and we've had it go really well for us. I can't work out who plays where. Romeu, Clasie and Hojbjerg could all play the DM role, or in front of that, but then do you need three, would Davis play deeper, would we lose his link play further forward. It all just looks like a congested mess to me but guess we'll see in the next few weeks!

 

I just like width really, whether 442, 4411 or 4231 or 433. I don't recall 41212 working anywhere but football manager. Seems like something a panicked hodgson would do.

 

For the 41212 to work you really need Ibrahima Bakayoko as the number 10.

Webby

Webby

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get the forwards to play closer together and let the full backs provide the width and it might work, but then, you may as well just play a flat 442 with wingers; tadic and redmond, long and austin/jrod up front.

Batman

Batman

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The diamond suddenly looks worthwhile if you have a Le tosser type in there. Two mobile forwards, 3 strong midfielders behind and a creative player running things. We don't have that.

 

Harsh mate. He was quite good for us!!

eurosaint

eurosaint

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I think the diamond would work in the league. But I really do not think we have the players to do that over a stretch of games.

 

Seeing Austin drop well wide is just bizarre

Long will do well in this system, jrod should do.

 

Redmond not sold on at all. Neither were many of the posters on here as there was little love for him in another thread below about relegated players we would want

 

Get a cracking no.10 and we could be in business but move tadic centrally, Austin dropping wide and Redmond playing as a striker is a bit odd

 

We shall see

 

Surprised to read that, IMO he has looked very sharp in recent friendlies and I am confident that he will get into double figures for goals this season !

Once the system settles down I reckon that he could play a Walcott type role, using his pace through the middle !

All about opinions I guess !!

saint77

saint77

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Surprised to read that, IMO he has looked very sharp in recent friendlies and I am confident that he will get into double figures for goals this season !

Once the system settles down I reckon that he could play a Walcott type role, using his pace through the middle !

All about opinions I guess !!

 

Batman's never seen a live game apart from t.v

LaptopSaint

LaptopSaint

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Thought both Redmond and Hojberg looked v promising against Espanyol and Athletic. Nathan's got great balance, and Hodgeburger just looks to have something about him. Jeremy Pied didn't do himself any harm in the 2nd half against Bilbao either - one great cross for Charlie in particular.

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