StDunko Posted 28 August, 2016 Posted 28 August, 2016 I think players are now performing at the very limits of their physical capabilities, which then means injuries are more likely. Back in the day the fitness standard was lower so the players bodies were not pushed to the limit.
Toon Saint Posted 28 August, 2016 Posted 28 August, 2016 You can't legislate for an act injury. Bad luck Pied Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Toon Saint Posted 28 August, 2016 Posted 28 August, 2016 You can't legislate for an act injury. Bad luck Pied Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
angelman Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 Isn't one of the biggest problems their boots studs, blades or whatever they are? It may help you turn, stop etc, but not much good if it is going to bugger up your knee. Have no idea whether hybrid pitches also have an effect or not.
Wade Garrett Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 I have a pathological hatred of the boots worn today. Blades and the lightness of the boot seems to lead to far more injuries. Didn't get so many of these type of injuries, or broken metatarsal when they were wearing the old Adidas World Cup's or Puma King's, playing on sh*t, heavy pitches.
ART Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 I think when such injuries happen so soon after we sign players, questions need to be asked about the medical team who assess a player. Something somewhere is obviously right and these teams should be able to pinpoint potential weaknesses in order that coaches can program proper training regimes.
angelman Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 I agree with you Art. The medical team seriously need to upgrade their crystal balls as it is appalling that it couldn't pick up and identify JRod falling badly and buggering up his knee 2 years after he signed for the club.
nta786 Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 I agree with you Art. The medical team seriously need to upgrade their crystal balls as it is appalling that it couldn't pick up and identify JRod falling badly and buggering up his knee 2 years after he signed for the club. But then with Forster..... He recovered really well.
Fan The Flames Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 A player is vulnerable when he moves to another club according to a piece by the clubs physio department last season. Clubs now recognise that changes in training methods put players in the danger zone for injuries.
angelman Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 But then with Forster..... He recovered really well. It was in the cards, and the medical team are OK at reading them
david in sweden Posted 29 August, 2016 Posted 29 August, 2016 tough luck on Pied, but at least we didn't pay £20 million for him in the first place.......
Dusic Posted 31 December, 2017 Posted 31 December, 2017 Not an expensive one, so no huge problem, but Pied was another poor signing summer of 2016. If the guy brought in as backup RB doesn't play when the main RB is out injured then he is just wasting a space in the squad. Backup fullbacks are important, especially at Saints as that position is key to hoe we play. Once Pied is released in the summer hopefully we get someone a little better who is actually an option to start a game when needed.
Barry the Badger Posted 31 December, 2017 Posted 31 December, 2017 Not an expensive one, so no huge problem, but Pied was another poor signing summer of 2016. If the guy brought in as backup RB doesn't play when the main RB is out injured then he is just wasting a space in the squad. Backup fullbacks are important, especially at Saints as that position is key to hoe we play. Once Pied is released in the summer hopefully we get someone a little better who is actually an option to start a game when needed. To be fair, he had a major knee injury after signing, may well have lost a bit of pace/mobility as a result and never be the player for us he could've been.
Pamplemousse Posted 31 December, 2017 Posted 31 December, 2017 I thought he did OK when he played at Bournemouth. Maybe Leicester will sign him
benjii Posted 31 December, 2017 Posted 31 December, 2017 I'd play him against Palace. Need some pace against Zaha.
BotleySaint Posted 31 December, 2017 Posted 31 December, 2017 I think he's been ok when I've seen him play. Not had a chance due to injury. Stephens has been hit and miss at RB.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 Thought the bloke did ok tonight. Proper professional performance. Journeymen has become a term of abuse, but in his case it shouldn’t be so. Didn’t let anyone down tonight and it can’t be easy not playing week in week out and then having to perform. For a club our size he proved tonight he’s a decent squad player. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
austsaint Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 Thought the bloke did ok tonight. Proper professional performance. Journeymen has become a term of abuse, but in his case it shouldn’t be so. Didn’t let anyone down tonight and it can’t be easy not playing week in week out and then having to perform. For a club our size he proved tonight he’s a decent squad player. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk He did play well - and got little or no help in attack or defence from James W.P. Not as effective at getting forward post-injury, but he's a genuinely good right back.
Shance Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 He's a damn sight better than Martina that's for sure. I'd keep him.
SKD Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 IMO he’s no way as bad as some make out. Ideal cover for Cedric and would certainly do a job for us in the championship.
James Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 Will be decent in the Championship which is about our level at the moment.
SaintMB Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 I thought he was one of the weakest players last night. Kept kicking the ball out and was very hesitant to join in attacks.
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 I thought he was one of the weakest players last night. Kept kicking the ball out and was very hesitant to join in attacks. ...and got an assist for Long’s goal.
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 Decent enough player, but one who sums up our current predicament. Filling the squad with decent/average players and then hoping for the best.
Mr Brightside Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 One of the better players last night (though not saying much). Although Palace weren't great, they have strong, mobile attackers who he dealt with well. He's a right back, Stephens isn't, not rocket science.
beatlesaint Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 He did ok last night. I had to laugh cos at one point during all the tappy tappy sideways passing in defence on an increasingly dodgy surface he actually pointed to where the goal we were attacking was. This was ultimately ignored as the midfield then took over the tappy tappy sideways role.
angelman Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 He put some decent tackles in, couldn't cross that well and generally did OK.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 Thought the bloke did ok tonight. Proper professional performance. Journeymen has become a term of abuse, but in his case it shouldn’t be so. Didn’t let anyone down tonight and it can’t be easy not playing week in week out and then having to perform. For a club our size he proved tonight he’s a decent squad player. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Agree - it can't have been easy for him with so little Premier League experience.
Pamplemousse Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 He was at least trying out there. He’s not a bad player for sure. I wouldn’t mind seeing him play in front of Cedric further up the field.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 I don’t really know what sort of back up right back people want or who we could realistically have. Ideally it’ll be a nipper fresh out of the academy, but failing that we’re not really going to get better than Pied. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
kitch Posted 3 January, 2018 Posted 3 January, 2018 I like him. Puts in a shift, and as others have said, it can't be easy being out for months at a time, and then just being thrown in and asked to handle it. Then factor in the injury etc. Never seems to complain, just acts like a professional and gets on with it. Certainly not the level we need for a starter, but a perfect backup RB in my opinion.
manina-pub Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 Shame he's off - seemed decent squad chap. Injury didn't help.
the saint in winchester Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 Shame he's off - seemed decent squad chap. Injury didn't help. Off? Source please. I know he's out of contract in the summer, but was hoping we would ask him to stay on. Is he leaving to join up with Puel again?
beatlesaint Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 Shame he's off - seemed decent squad chap. Injury didn't help. Off ? that leaves us with no cover at right back
sfc6mufc3 Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/08/do-report-florin-gardos-and-jeremy-pied-free-to-negotiate-southa/
beatlesaint Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/08/do-report-florin-gardos-and-jeremy-pied-free-to-negotiate-southa/ ah, that makes more sense, thanks :-)
Dusic Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 He isn't good enough. Seems like a nice guy but our backup full backs are amongst the weakest in the PL.
the saint in winchester Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/08/do-report-florin-gardos-and-jeremy-pied-free-to-negotiate-southa/ NO! That doesn't mean they are definitely off, simply that with 6 months on their contract, they can agree a contract with another supplier when this one ends with current supplier. I think he looks good, and with the uncertainty over Cedric, we should offer him another contract IMHO.
Matthew Le God Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 with the uncertainty over Cedric, we should offer him another contract IMHO. What uncertainty?
Show me the mané Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 He's a decent back up right back imo Done well with limited opportunities this season
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 I remember him at Lyon, pretty often unavailable even in soft, airy fairy, girlslike football. Plus he really isn't all that good. Versatile perhaps but only at a certain level. Can't say I didn't warn you.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 NO! That doesn't mean they are definitely off, simply that with 6 months on their contract, they can agree a contract with another supplier when this one ends with current supplier. I think he looks good, and with the uncertainty over Cedric, we should offer him another contract IMHO. Well with other clubs perhaps. However I think it's only moves to non-UK clubs that can be negociated during the final 6 months. May have changed recently though. I see him at a Nantes, Amiens type of club really..
Colinjb Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 (edited) Get the feeling with Pied, had he not been injured after arriving he would have done a good job. Against Palace, he may have looked like he was blowing after 20 minutes, but he still looked reasonable. Edited 8 February, 2018 by Colinjb
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2018 Posted 8 February, 2018 GetthefeelingwithPied,hadhenotbeeninjuredafterarrivinghewouldhavedoneagoodjob. No, because he always gets injured.
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