eelpie Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I tend to believe that the board weren't bothered about him staying, and that if they'd wanted him to see out his contract he would have stayed. I'm not itk, but I remember one of the resident ones suggesting that, and given our record on replacing managers it seems plausible to me. It isn't too healthy to have a record of changing managers too often. So far we have been very fortunate, because prospective candidates see us as a club moving in the right direction. Long may that continue, because we don't want to return to the days post Strachan again.
OldNick Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 (edited) Yesterday in the press Lovren and wife were mentioned and it said that Lovren was earning 16k per week. Considering we have been told that the players leave for massive wages (in football terms) perhaps we are not paying high wages as I had assumed he would have been on 20-30k at Liverpool Edited 8 August, 2016 by OldNick
Batman Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Yesterday in the press Lovren and wife were mentioned and it said that Lovren was earning 16k per week. Considering we have been told that the players leave for massive wages (in football terms) perhaps we are not paying high wages Says £65k a week at Liverpool elsewhere
sadoldgit Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Yup you Sussed it as well. Loads of supposition, vague regurgitation and bluster but nothing really said. Same writing style. And still nothing to support your claim that Fonte has signed a new contract, so the same could be said for you.
OldNick Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Says £65k a week at Liverpool elsewhere Oh ok, I was surprised at the original quote
manji Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 interviews never translate well if given to a foreign paper/journalist etc, we know that from experience. Quite. Especially if you are a bedwetter reading into it what you want.
scotty Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 It isn't too healthy to have a record of changing managers too often. So far we have been very fortunate, because prospective candidates see us as a club moving in the right direction. Long may that continue, because we don't want to return to the days post Strachan again. I agree, but it sounds possible to me after the last few managers. Nigel got sacked after back to back promotions, pards got sacked before him, and the poch thing always struck me as a muddle ; he did that initial interview when it was suggested cortese might get the boot, and pochs reaction was that if cortese went he'd go as well. I know he issued a revised statement, but that always seemed to me like an agreement to see out the season, like morgan and vic. But yes, it would be nice to have some continuity although that doesn't seem to happen much these days.
Donatello Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 (edited) I love all this sh1t im getting. If I'm wrong so be it... But I don't think I will be. How can you possibly be wrong when you categorically stated a week ago that Fonte had already signed a 3 year deal? That is to say, there was no indecision in what you said. Edited 8 August, 2016 by Donatello
whelk Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I love all this sh1t im getting. If I'm wrong so be it... But I don't think I will be. One thing being wrong, another thing knocking someone else for what looks like same thing and drawing attention to your knowledge.
thefuriousb Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 How can you possibly be wrong when you categorically stated a week ago that Fonte had already signed a 3 year deal? That is to say, there was no indecision in what you said. Out of interest, and in no way having a pop, but how can Fonte sign an improved deal if we do not yet know what the top earner is on? It may be x today, but if we sign 2 players before the end of August he might well not be top earner again.
so22saint Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Says £65k a week at Liverpool elsewhere His agent gets £65k a week :-)
CB Fry Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Yesterday in the press Lovren and wife were mentioned and it said that Lovren was earning 16k per week. Considering we have been told that the players leave for massive wages (in football terms) perhaps we are not paying high wages as I had assumed he would have been on 20-30k at Liverpool He's obviously not on £16k a week at Liverpool.
Crab Lungs Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 How can you possibly be wrong when you categorically stated a week ago that Fonte had already signed a 3 year deal? That is to say, there was no indecision in what you said. No indecision. I stand by what I said, which is clear. No muddles or riddles.
Dig Dig Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 No indecision. I stand by what I said, which is clear. No muddles or riddles. So Fonte has signed a new 3 year deal?
Saint Garrett Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Yesterday in the press Lovren and wife were mentioned and it said that Lovren was earning 16k per week. Considering we have been told that the players leave for massive wages (in football terms) perhaps we are not paying high wages as I had assumed he would have been on 20-30k at Liverpool He'll be on way more than that, probably closer to £80k I would imagine. Would have thought he would have been on £30k/40k at Saints.
DJ_TOAST Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 He should take a leaf out of Davis's book "That moment your being linked with Celtic ?? never going to happen https://www.youtube.com/embed/RrNfHFYf6eU …"
Special K Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Says £65k a week at Liverpool elsewhere I can imagine his Mrs will take a bit of that to set up home with the man with the golden chopper.
Crab Lungs Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 So Fonte has signed a new 3 year deal? As I said, it's an affirmative 'yes' from me. I guess we'll find out soon enough
saint-crinny Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 He should take a leaf out of Davis's book "That moment your being linked with Celtic never going to happen https://www.youtube.com/embed/RrNfHFYf6eU …" I think Fonte would happily tweet a response like that about a link with Celtic too. Would Davis be tweeting something like that if it was a link with United or City - I think not
Dig Dig Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I think Fonte would happily tweet a response like that about a link with Celtic too. Would Davis be tweeting something like that if it was a link with United or City - I think not I think Davis tweet is more in relation to the Rangers/Celtic stuff.
Dig Dig Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 As I said, it's an affirmative 'yes' from me. I guess we'll find out soon enough Well that's where it gets confusing as Fonte's quotes in the media look miles apart from someone who has committed their future here once more, added to the fact that there is no announcement from the club at a time where they know there is ongoing speculation.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Well that's where it gets confusing as Fonte's quotes in the media look miles apart from someone who has committed their future here once more, added to the fact that there is no announcement from the club at a time where they know there is ongoing speculation. The silence from the club and Jose certainly isn't helping.....!
saint-crinny Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I think Davis tweet is more in relation to the Rangers/Celtic stuff. I know that, just in response to "Fonte should take a leaf out of Davis book". It's not the same is it
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 (edited) He'll be on way more than that, probably closer to £80k I would imagine. Would have thought he would have been on £30k/40k at Saints. Twenty years ago or so the average Premier League salary was £1.5m (Might have been 15 years, around MLT'S time anyway) Edited 8 August, 2016 by Whitey Grandad Qualification
simo Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I must admit the silence from both club and player is now deafening!
iansums Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 It is interesting how Fonte who is forever posting on Instagram hasn't posted a thing for about a week.
manji Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I must admit the silence from both club and player is now deafening! It always is thats the way we have played it for ages.
manji Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Well that's where it gets confusing as Fonte's quotes in the media look miles apart from someone who has committed their future here once more, added to the fact that there is no announcement from the club at a time where they know there is ongoing speculation. When have we ever commented on speculation ?
simo Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 It always is thats the way we have played it for ages.Im thinking more about having a European championship winning captain! Great Pr for a club something is afoot as usually our media team would have been all over that!
beatlesaint Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I must admit the silence from both club and player is now deafening! the club aren't going to comment because about 30 people on a chat forum are having an orgasm about whether a player is leaving or not.
manji Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Im thinking more about having a European championship winning captain! Great Pr for a club something is afoot as usually our media team would have been all over that! Who says we arent going too ?
manji Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 the club aren't going to comment because about 30 BED WETTING people on a chat forum are having an orgasm about whether a player is leaving or not. Spot On
simo Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Who says we arent going too ? Me , The cedric interview was pushed thru pretty quickly whats taking so long for us to gear from our captain and leader ?
saints1988 Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 As I said, it's an affirmative 'yes' from me. I guess we'll find out soon enough I personally think you do not have any information. I guess we'll find out soon enough
buctootim Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 the club aren't going to comment because about 30 people on a chat forum are having an orgasm about whether a player is leaving or not. Sainsbury's have a policy that if six people write to the CEO on the same issue then he requires a full report from the relevant operations director.
Crab Lungs Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 You don't think you will be? So you don't know? Is it just a 50/50 stay or go and an attempt to look ITK on a football forum? Figure of speech, not a 50/50 guess. Having said that, I didn't realise he immeasurable kudos you could get from pretending to be ITK on an Internet forum. I might try it sometime.
Saint-Fred Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Twenty years ago or so the average Premier League salary was £1.5m (Might have been 15 years, around MLT'S time anyway) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3456453/Mind-gap-Premier-League-wages-soar-average-salaries-2014-15-season-1-7million-rest-creep-along.html This suggests it may not have been quite as high during Matts time? I do think wages and what players are on.. are perceived as higher than they are due to stories about the real top earners? I thought I read Eriksen was negotiating a new contract as he was "only" on 30k a week?
Dig Dig Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 When have we ever commented on speculation ? The point is that if Fonte has signed a 3 year extension as per CL's claim, there really isn't any reason to sit on that whilst Fonte is out talking to press about leaving. It doesn't add up.
Donatello Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 You don't think you will be? So you don't know? Is it just a 50/50 stay or go and an attempt to look ITK on a football forum? *ahem*
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3456453/Mind-gap-Premier-League-wages-soar-average-salaries-2014-15-season-1-7million-rest-creep-along.html This suggests it may not have been quite as high during Matts time? I do think wages and what players are on.. are perceived as higher than they are due to stories about the real top earners? I thought I read Eriksen was negotiating a new contract as he was "only" on 30k a week? It does, doesn't it?
DT Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 The point is that if Fonte has signed a 3 year extension as per CL's claim, there really isn't any reason to sit on that whilst Fonte is out talking to press about leaving. It doesn't add up. Correct. Not very good Pr strategy if so Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saint-Fred Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 It does, doesn't it? Yeah but I don't think the papers really know do they? I know Man Utd pay massive wages but with Pogba, Ibra, Rooney etc I would have thought there would be a limit on any wage they'd pay Fonte...if he is or is close to our highest earner I would have thought even they might bulk at his wages? However they also have loads of money so maybe not!
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I cant help but look at Arsenals CB situation and think it wont be long before they are linked, he is literally exactly the player they need. Don't believe he would leave for Neverton (although I thought that about Koeman too) and I don't actually think Man Utd will bring in another CB either.
pangy Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I cant help but look at Arsenals CB situation and think it wont be long before they are linked, he is literally exactly the player they need. Don't believe he would leave for Neverton (although I thought that about Koeman too) and I don't actually think Man Utd will bring in another CB either. Footballers will go where the ££££ are
DT Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I cant help but look at Arsenals CB situation and think it wont be long before they are linked, he is literally exactly the player they need. Don't believe he would leave for Neverton (although I thought that about Koeman too) and I don't actually think Man Utd will bring in another CB either. Was in the Mirror this morning Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
VectisSaint Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 I cant help but look at Arsenals CB situation and think it wont be long before they are linked, he is literally exactly the player they need. Don't believe he would leave for Neverton (although I thought that about Koeman too) and I don't actually think Man Utd will bring in another CB either. Arsenal are either pursuing Shkodran Mustafi or won't be buying a new CB depending on who you believe. They already have decent players in this position, just a short term injury crisis. Buying Fonte as well and then having Mertesacker, Koscielny and Gabriel coming back is not really good business and would be most un-Wenger like.
S-Clarke Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 Arsenal are either pursuing Shkodran Mustafi or won't be buying a new CB depending on who you believe. They already have decent players in this position, just a short term injury crisis. Buying Fonte as well and then having Mertesacker, Koscielny and Gabriel coming back is not really good business and would be most un-Wenger like. They need to look for a younger first team starting CB (not a one for the future type), they should have been scouring the market well before now anyway. Mertersaker and Gabriel aren't really at the level they need as starters anyway. But Wenger is blind to that and will probably stick with what he has and throw a couple of kids in.
diggers Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/222/transfer-zone/2016/08/08/26309632/puel-rules-out-fonte-sale-amid-manchester-united-links
DT Posted 8 August, 2016 Posted 8 August, 2016 http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/222/transfer-zone/2016/08/08/26309632/puel-rules-out-fonte-sale-amid-manchester-united-links Not a great deal in that story. Puel says he wants to keep Fonte. Good. But still not amazingly reassuring Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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