Batman Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Well I don't want him to go but we need to be looking to replace him soon anyway. People keep saying Fonte is irreplaceable and such like but he really only has a couple of good seasons left so we are going to have to get used to not having him around anyway soon enough. True. We can get used to that next summer. The season starts on Saturday, and we are saying we are now not too bothered about the skipper leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Well I don't want him to go but we need to be looking to replace him soon anyway. People keep saying Fonte is irreplaceable and such like but he really only has a couple of good seasons left so we are going to have to get used to not having him around anyway soon enough. Exactly. would have been better to get a third top rank CB and bed him in gradually over the season- but £10-12m for a 32 yr old will soften the pain (as long as we spend it of course). Cant help wondering if Puel is going down like cold sick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Exactly this, he's important to the club as our Captain and a solid, reliable centreback, but he is not a top 4 quality player at all, last season he had a huge number of lucky escapes when he was caught short. What a load of rubbish. Have you seen the centre halves some of the top teams have been fielding? Fonte's one of the best in the league. He'd improve any defence besides Tottenham's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Based on what he's said, they'll be no move to Everton - silver lining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 He's 32. He's not going to get better than he is. At some point we need to sort a replacement. He's just won the Euros. He will never have a better opportunity to secure a final, massive money move somewhere. He's been a great servant and I wouldn't begrudge him that. And if we get a chunky offer for him, given his age, do you think we'll turn it down? It'd be another Pelle situation. If he goes that's fine. If he stays, that's fine too. Doesn't change what he has contributed to Saints, and he should still be on the banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Not United's main CB target, but very much sitting in around 2 to 3. Lets hope United bag their main man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Have all the ITK's been quiet about this? Strange. I sincerely hope he stays. I'm sure the Black-Box would be crunching data on replacements if there's any question mark over this, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 By the sounds of it we have two players left we want to sign, and we already have the funds in place to sign them. This means that we don't NEED to sell Fonte, so any offer that would be worth us losing our captain and mainstay of a solid defence would be in the territory of "record for his age" kind of deals. Anything over £15million and we'd probably sell...and would have enough to get a young replacement who can learn alongside VVD. I can't see anyone offering that amount of money for a 32 year old centreback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 He's 32. He's not going to get better than he is. At some point we need to sort a replacement. He's just won the Euros. He will never have a better opportunity to secure a final, massive money move somewhere. He's been a great servant and I wouldn't begrudge him that. And if we get a chunky offer for him, given his age, do you think we'll turn it down? It'd be another Pelle situation. If he goes that's fine. If he stays, that's fine too. Doesn't change what he has contributed to Saints, and he should still be on the banner. Yes. When have we sold key players this late in the transfer window? We sell players early for a reason. At this point we have always told other clubs to do one. And Pellè was very far from being a key player, even more so under Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Not United's main CB target, but very much sitting in around 2 to 3. Lets hope United bag their main man. Arsenal currently short of centre-back's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Arsenal currently short of centre-back's too. I wouldn't class them as a big big team, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 I wouldn't class them as a big big team, That sounds a little bit like "Why would Toby go to Tottenham?" from last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 That sounds a little bit like "Why would Toby go to Tottenham?" from last summer. And why would Koeman go to Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Everyone saying "wouldn't begrudge him a move" and "best years behind him" "not irreplaceable" he is a Euro winning cb and our captain and this timing is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Bertrand just signed a new contract, f@cking hell guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 To be honest I don't blame Fonte, I bet he's fed up of seeing players/managers leave. He's been loyal, fans need to get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Just the small overreaction in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Because I think if Manchester United came in for him, we probably would let him go. I'm not talking about deadline day, we're not mental, but late - ie we'd end up signing his replacement on deadline day. Did we not sign Alderweireld and VVD on deadline days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Fonte probably knows he'll be lucky to have better than two more seasons at the highest level. On that basis, if the quotes are true, he is only being honest by saying if those two season could be played with a Champions' League club, he'd take the opportunity to end his career on a high. But he also recognises in that interview that Saints would have to agree to let him go. With a contract to summer 2018, Saints hold all the cards so he would only be sold for a sum that would pay for an equivalent replacement at a time when such a signing could be made. If there is such a replacement available in the market, any club interested in Fonte might as well sign the alternative who might cost them less and offer them a longer career. I believe fans can be relaxed about this as he'll only be sold if it is in the club's best interest with a sale looking highly unlikely. Fonte has also shown in his interview that he knows full well that he might not be allowed to move and his comments indicate that he's reconciled with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Did we not sign Alderweireld and VVD on deadline days? Yes, and Mane. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 To be honest I don't blame Fonte, I bet he's fed up of seeing players/managers leave. He's been loyal, fans need to get over it. Loyalty by definition is turning down better offers. I can't say that I can recall any which he has turned down since joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 To be honest I don't blame Fonte, I bet he's fed up of seeing players/managers leave. He's been loyal, fans need to get over it. Yep. He sees them come. He sees them go. He stays. He improves. The team improves despite the departures. He wins the Euros. And in all that time who has come in for him? Cardiff f**king City. You can see why he might want to go to a Champions League Club. Just wish he didn't tell the press. Unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Yes, and Mane. What's your point? To be honest, I don't remember! I *think* that not all deadline day signings are bad or Ill thought out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Need an update from Guan, think there is more to the Bertrand injury also. Puel very coy in his interview. Not sure how coy he was being, think he's just a bit dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 To be honest, I don't remember! I *think* that not all deadline day signings are bad or Ill thought out We are very capable of signing significant players on deadline day. However we don't typically sell major players late on, and filling such a crucial gap on or around deadline day, with all the other changes we've already had, is not ideal. We could well do without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Anyone saying they wouldn't begrudge him of a move is small time. The season starts next week and he's our captain. Losing him now would be suicidal to our season. We can't sell and if we do it's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Funny how people said he has signed a 3 year extension. Clearly not and something is going on with Fonte at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Perhaps he's bored of playing with a different team every season so thinks it might as well be a totally different team Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Yep. He sees them come. He sees them go. He stays. He improves. The team improves despite the departures. He wins the Euros. And in all that time who has come in for him? Cardiff f**king City. You can see why he might want to go to a Champions League Club. Just wish he didn't tell the press. Unnecessary. It may be unnecessary but tough sh*t that's the way it is and that's what sounds like has happend, for what it's worth I don't agree with him airing his dirty laundry in public especially so close to the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Those saying they wouldn't begrudge him s move are dickhe#ds. This is a bloke who signed a new deal only 8 months ago earning more than he could ever have dreamed of when we signed him for a million quid in 2010. Because of us he first got picked for his country then because a legend in his country by winning their first major trophy. Yes he's been good for us but we've been great for Him. Had we never signed him he would probably still be a middling championship player. I'd begrudge him a move because we'd have got to where we are without Jose Fonte, he wouldn't have got to where he is without southampton FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Basically if Fonte stays with us this summer, it's purely down to lack of interest from a big club. Disagree- it doesn't like sound like he would force a move if the club didn't want to sell. If he goes, it's because it also suits the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR-10 Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 As far as I know there WAS interest from Manchester United. How far that actually went I have no idea beyond knowing that NO formal bid was received and that includes from any other club that's ever been mentioned. Nothing whatsoever from Everton and the £9M allegedly from Everton was mentioned in the press and where that came from is beyond me. As far as any new contract that's apparently been signed by Jose (Fonte), I'm not completely sure where that came from either, but that doesn't change anything I've previously said and there is still nothing to suggest that he's leaving from what I've seen or understand. BUT...There will be more positive news this week re other things. Asside from this I know just as much as everybody else about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 As far as I know there WAS interest from Manchester United. How far that actually went I have no idea beyond knowing that NO formal bid was received and that includes from any other club that's ever been mentioned. Nothing whatsoever from Everton and the £9M allegedly from Everton was mentioned in the press and where that came from is beyond me. As far as any new contract that's apparently been signed by Jose (Fonte), I'm not completely sure where that came from either, but that doesn't change anything I've previously said and there is still nothing to suggest that he's leaving from what I've seen or understand. BUT...There will be more positive news this week re other things. Asside from this I know just as much as everybody else about it. Cheers for the update, AR-10. We shall see. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 As far as I know there WAS interest from Manchester United. How far that actually went I have no idea beyond knowing that NO formal bid was received and that includes from any other club that's ever been mentioned. Nothing whatsoever from Everton and the £9M allegedly from Everton was mentioned in the press and where that came from is beyond me. As far as any new contract that's apparently been signed by Jose (Fonte), I'm not completely sure where that came from either, but that doesn't change anything I've previously said and there is still nothing to suggest that he's leaving from what I've seen or understand. BUT...There will be more positive news this week re other things. Asside from this I know just as much as everybody else about it. New player(s)...new contracts...both?!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Cheers for the update, AR-10. We shall see. Fingers crossed. New player(s)...new contracts...both?!! Have I missed something but when did we decide AR10 was ITK? As far as I can tell he just turned up a couple of weeks ago, said something vague about Tadic getting a new deal and that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 Have I missed something but when did we decide AR10 was ITK? As far as I can tell he just turned up a couple of weeks ago, said something vague about Tadic getting a new deal and that's about it. We are currently assessing his ITK credentials after Guan said to give him a chance to prove if he's legit or another Jack Schitt. #ITK_Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 I think I can claim to be the first to use the phrase bedwetters on here. Boy it's needed. Firstly as I have said it was Betrands birthday last week. Clubs Twitter wished him a happy one. He has a slight injury. Fonte signed a contract in November. He is taking his coaching badges with Kelvin. He has been quoted as saying he would be happy if Saints was his last club. As part of our 5 year plan he is being groomed as a future manager. We are tying up one of our new elongated contracts with a further pay rise and a promise of a coaching position ala Kelvin when he does retire. He played today. Where is the " something is happening with Fonte" coming from ? I also expect two attacking players in at the end of this week or the start of the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 I am pretty sure other ITK's on other forums just spit out what they know......why do all of them on here always leave cryptic posts, just tell us what you ****1ng know ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 As far as I know there WAS interest from Manchester United. How far that actually went I have no idea beyond knowing that NO formal bid was received and that includes from any other club that's ever been mentioned. Nothing whatsoever from Everton and the £9M allegedly from Everton was mentioned in the press and where that came from is beyond me. As far as any new contract that's apparently been signed by Jose (Fonte), I'm not completely sure where that came from either, but that doesn't change anything I've previously said and there is still nothing to suggest that he's leaving from what I've seen or understand. BUT...There will be more positive news this week re other things. Asside from this I know just as much as everybody else about it. Thanks Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 7 August, 2016 Share Posted 7 August, 2016 I think I can claim to be the first to use the phrase bedwetters on here. Boy it's needed. Firstly as I have said it was Betrands birthday last week. Clubs Twitter wished him a happy one. He has a slight injury. Fonte signed a contract in November. He is taking his coaching badges with Kelvin. He has been quoted as saying he would be happy if Saints was his last club. As part of our 5 year plan he is being groomed as a future manager. We are tying up one of our new elongated contracts with a further pay rise and a promise of a coaching position ala Kelvin when he does retire. He played today. Where is the " something is happening with Fonte" coming from ? I also expect two attacking players in at the end of this week or the start of the next. Guess so but Lallana said he'd give an arm to stay with us I swear or something along those lines lol :/ words mean nothing, as do contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Not sure how coy he was being, think he's just a bit dull A bit?! I can't listen to him for more then 2 seconds. Utterly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Thanks Jack Yup you Sussed it as well. Loads of supposition, vague regurgitation and bluster but nothing really said. Same writing style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Yup you Sussed it as well. Loads of supposition, vague regurgitation and bluster but nothing really said. Same writing style. Unlike your ITK about Fonte having signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Unlike your ITK about Fonte having signed. I love all this sh1t im getting. If I'm wrong so be it... But I don't think I will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 I think I can claim to be the first to use the phrase bedwetters on here. Boy it's needed. Firstly as I have said it was Betrands birthday last week. Clubs Twitter wished him a happy one. He has a slight injury. Fonte signed a contract in November. He is taking his coaching badges with Kelvin. He has been quoted as saying he would be happy if Saints was his last club. As part of our 5 year plan he is being groomed as a future manager. We are tying up one of our new elongated contracts with a further pay rise and a promise of a coaching position ala Kelvin when he does retire. He played today. Where is the " something is happening with Fonte" coming from ? I also expect two attacking players in at the end of this week or the start of the next. Have you read the quotes attributed to Fonte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Have you read the quotes attributed to Fonte? interviews never translate well if given to a foreign paper/journalist etc, we know that from experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 interviews never translate well if given to a foreign paper/journalist etc, we know that from experience. Or even UK jounalists. I remember watching full press conferences with Koeman last season then seeing his quotes or the manner he said things completely twisted in the papers. I wouldn't believe anything you read in the papers tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 As far as I can see, we don't have to sell him no matter who happens to make a bid for him. He is still under contract, and unless he goes on strike .... he stays, unless the board have somebody lined up and want to cash in oh him in the same way they did with SRL and Pelle. He's worth more to the team than cash at this moment in time. His transfer value will reduce substantially but we aren't exactly strapped for cash transfer wise surely? In credit last 2 years and again this year on transfer deals, and that is even before you take into account the massive increase in TV Cash Cow revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Or even UK jounalists. I remember watching full press conferences with Koeman last season then seeing his quotes or the manner he said things completely twisted in the papers. I wouldn't believe anything you read in the papers tbh. Quotes like he would honour his contract? Dirty lying judas greedy b@stard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 8 August, 2016 Share Posted 8 August, 2016 Quotes like he would honour his contract? Dirty lying judas greedy b@stard. I tend to believe that the board weren't bothered about him staying, and that if they'd wanted him to see out his contract he would have stayed. I'm not itk, but I remember one of the resident ones suggesting that, and given our record on replacing managers it seems plausible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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