david in sweden Posted 18 August, 2016 Share Posted 18 August, 2016 Perhaps Fonte's will score an own goal to force the exit ....if he scores the winner for Saints....... it might put a different complexion on the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 18 August, 2016 Share Posted 18 August, 2016 He's got two years in his current contract so he has no opportunity to earn more elsewhere unless we agree to transfer his registration. He has no leverage at all and if it's just about money rather than winning things then he sounds like a bit of a ****, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 18 August, 2016 Share Posted 18 August, 2016 Just pay him. It will cost much more looking for a replacement He is under contract for another two years that is the end of the story. If he had a poor Euros and poor early form for us would he have taken a pay cut? No, thought not! The thing is though the board insist on encouraging the big clubs in by not making an assertive statement stating he is going nowhere. This is unsettling and yet again we handle this episode in an amateur fashion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 18 August, 2016 Share Posted 18 August, 2016 So Fonte is happy to stay, but the board is doing business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 He is under contract for another two years that is the end of the story. If he had a poor Euros and poor early form for us would he have taken a pay cut? No, thought not! The thing is though the board insist on encouraging the big clubs in by not making an assertive statement stating he is going nowhere. This is unsettling and yet again we handle this episode in an amateur fashion... This is the aspect that irritates me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Ah those statements that Reed has done in the past and still gets criticised for now. A statement wouldn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Ah those statements that Reed has done in the past and still gets criticised for now. A statement wouldn't change anything. This. Every day I think "please don't reassure us Les, please don't". No interest in statements apart from a) smiley picture with big watch on, signing new contract or b) transfer window shuts and he's still here. Everything else is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Ah those statements that Reed has done in the past and still gets criticised for now. A statement wouldn't change anything. He got criticised for them as they were poorly thought out and executed PR stunts. He's better to follow Ronan's advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Talksport's top transfer analysist has said Jose definitely want this move to United who are prepared to raise an offer to 13 to 14 million. Saints need be find a replacement quickly for this to go ahead as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Talksport's top transfer analysist has said Jose definitely want this move to United who are prepared to raise an offer to 13 to 14 million. Saints need be find a replacement quickly for this to go ahead as soon as possible. Don't pay much attention to Talk****e. And what the hell is a transfer analyst apart from someone reading the same rumours and planted stories and adding to them? Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Talksport's top transfer analysist has said Jose definitely want this move to United who are prepared to raise an offer to 13 to 14 million. Saints need be find a replacement quickly for this to go ahead as soon as possible. Fairly sure their top transfer analyst is that fat tw4t Moosehead or whatever he calls himself. All he does is read the BBC Gossip page and spew it out to the dribbling millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Don't pay much attention to Talk****e. And what the hell is a transfer analyst apart from someone reading the same rumours and planted stories and adding to them That's anybody on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Isn't that Alex Crook ??? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Talksport's top transfer analysist has said Jose definitely want this move to United who are prepared to raise an offer to 13 to 14 million. Saints need be find a replacement quickly for this to go ahead as soon as possible. If its on Talksport then he's definitely not going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Warren Haughton is their "transfer analyst". Loves to big himself up by talking about his "sources". Full of crap from what I can tell. Stealing a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Don't pay much attention to Talk****e. And what the hell is a transfer analyst apart from someone reading the same rumours and planted stories and adding to them? Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Talksport - the radio station that has Alex Crook as it's "South coast expert" The station which completely invented a story about Wayne Rooney leaving Man United. I listened to this story develop one morning. Rooney was left out of the Man United side the night before, Alan Brazil started off the speculation by saying "Rooney dropped, does the manager not rate him anymore?" which quickly became "is he on his way out of the door?" an ex player commented that he might be frustrated at not starting, a Manchester Evening News journalist commented that only PSG and Man City could afford him. By the end of the show Alan Brazil was claiming "a frustrated Wayne Rooney is on his way out of Manchester United with PSG and Man City already being linked" It was one of the most blatant examples of sh*t stirring I've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 The station which completely invented a story about Wayne Rooney leaving Man United. I listened to this story develop one morning. Rooney was left out of the Man United side the night before, Alan Brazil started off the speculation by saying "Rooney dropped, does the manager not rate him anymore?" which quickly became "is he on his way out of the door?" an ex player commented that he might be frustrated at not starting, a Manchester Evening News journalist commented that only PSG and Man City could afford him. By the end of the show Alan Brazil was claiming "a frustrated Wayne Rooney is on his way out of Manchester United with PSG and Man City already being linked" It was one of the most blatant examples of sh*t stirring I've ever heard. In his defence he was drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Who the fck could bear Alan Brazil for any length of time? Epitomises what that pile of sh1te station stands for. Made for Murdoch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 The Fall's Hot Runes is a great song about Alan Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Alan Brazil - cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogwoppit Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Apparently, fonte is in Manchester tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Forest Steve Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Apparently, fonte is in Manchester tonight! ..... your source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 ..... your source ? Geoff Shreves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 fontes transfer has been cancelled by united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 fontes transfer has been cancelled by united I'd call that a result:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 I can understand his frustration. The last two season we've been on the verge of breaking into that Champions League place but each summer we've had to then rebuild because we are pushovers when it comes to outgoing transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Noticed he was getting moody when Forster didn't pass him the ball a few times. Looked frustrated and exchanged a few words with BIG Fraser a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Van Dijk was going mental at him as he had to come across twice to cover for him. lol Didn't have the best of games but you can't really blame him with all the speculation going on. This is why we need to change the start date of the season so the window shuts as the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Van Dijk was going mental at him as he had to come across twice to cover for him. lol Didn't have the best of games but you can't really blame him with all the speculation going on. This is why we need to change the start date of the season so the window shuts as the season starts. Or we could just change the date the transfer window shuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 19 August, 2016 Share Posted 19 August, 2016 Or we could just change the date the transfer window shuts? Well no, because all of Europe start's on a different date. We can't expect the whole of Europe to change just for us. Think La Liga starts next week?? Regardless. All European leagues should start the week after the transfer window shuts imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 fontes transfer has been cancelled by united More like he's just paid off a chunk of what they'll pay for him !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Well no, because all of Europe start's on a different date. We can't expect the whole of Europe to change just for us. Think La Liga starts next week?? Regardless. All European leagues should start the week after the transfer window shuts imo. Why can't they close the transfer window a month earlier? Why do clubs need a 3 months long window in the first place? Doesn't matter if Spain, or who ever, starts later or sooner. If you would close the window on the first of August then all leagues would start with squads who wont change until the winter. And 2 months is plenty of time to get players in and you can negotiate with players and clubs way before that as well. Its something clubs and leagues have been asking about for years now cause clubs basically sell their fans a product in the pre-season that can change while you have played 3/4 matches already. There really ain't no reason anymore why the window is open until September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 Why can't they close the transfer window a month earlier? Why do clubs need a 3 months long window in the first place? Doesn't matter if Spain, or who ever, starts later or sooner. If you would close the window on the first of August then all leagues would start with squads who wont change until the winter. And 2 months is plenty of time to get players in and you can negotiate with players and clubs way before that as well. Its something clubs and leagues have been asking about for years now cause clubs basically sell their fans a product in the pre-season that can change while you have played 3/4 matches already. There really ain't no reason anymore why the window is open until September. Man up, FFS. Personally I'd change it back to how it was not so long ago, with transfers open all the way up until about March. Imagine you're far to delicate to cope with such an idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 20 August, 2016 Share Posted 20 August, 2016 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/20/manchester-united-jose-mourinho-southampton-jose-fonte Worth noting that one of the opening lines of the article is complete tosh, I.e. Fonte is contracted until 2018, not 2017. Edited 20 August, 2016 by Donatello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 10 days left to the window " closing". If he is going ....he won't play on Saturday , or will have a mysterious " injury ". This is really a head / heart debate. Contracturally....he still has 2 years left and the idea of getting £8-10 million for player who will be 33 at Christmas look a good deal. Avoiding the word " legend "....he is the last of the players who made the journey up from the L1 days, and surely few fans would deny him a last big payday, if ....... ....like Lambert he chose to make the move. If he does move .....it'll be a 2 year contract (with options) and a few opening games / sub.apps to bolster up a shaky defence, or give extra strength to defences in the Euro competitions that any new club are likley to have. In this event ; I'd expect to see him on the bench in the latter part of this season after " the new club " have installed " a younger man" with a longer future. Like Lambert, his game time would be measured in minutes... rather than starting apps. The benefits being a larger salary ....and some good memories from SMS. I wouldn't begrudge him a final move so it really is a Catch 22 situation for him this week. Sooner (rather than later) he will need to be replaced.....and I for one (reluctantly) say ...better to leave in a burst of glory than on a free transfer in 2 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Is he going? Not yet then. Ok I'll check back later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 (edited) Why can't they close the transfer window a month earlier? Why do clubs need a 3 months long window in the first place? Doesn't matter if Spain, or who ever, starts later or sooner. If you would close the window on the first of August then all leagues would start with squads who wont change until the winter. And 2 months is plenty of time to get players in and you can negotiate with players and clubs way before that as well. Its something clubs and leagues have been asking about for years now cause clubs basically sell their fans a product in the pre-season that can change while you have played 3/4 matches already. There really ain't no reason anymore why the window is open until September. Although you seem to make a good case, the reality is that that you never know if last year's good team..... may struggle in the new season. It's very early days, but interesting to note that both Leicester and Arsenal, who finished 1st and 2nd respectively... have had very uneven starts and like Saints have only 1 point from their first two games. The first two or three games are an indication to the manager (often a new signing, too) as to what his requirements will be. More defenders?, another striker?, etc. It also gives a breathing space for reflection, and pre-season training can also bring its own share of injuries. This year...it's Gardos and Bertrand (again) for Saints. Or like West Ham (who I normally have little sympathy for) having signed Ayew for a whopping £20 million...saw him play for about 30 minutes before he got an injury which will most likely keep him out until the New Year. Now they must start seeking someone else - if they want to hold their high Prem place AND progress in Europe. Whilst the window has its purpose, it was somewhat unfair in bygone days when players could move at any time, and a club going for the title would often sign a top scoring player, or star defender / midfielder to help them " over the line ". Nerve-racking though it can be ....the whole idea of the transfer window is not such a bad one. Edited 21 August, 2016 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfer-news-fonte-11778536? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfer-news-fonte-11778536? I think Jose is going to go & that explains the "3" possible incomings before the deadline IMO. Let's be honest, none of us want him to go, but we all know the routine. The echo even said he's staying unless we get an "eye watering" offer. (Aka £8m) which they can probably find down their sofa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 It's obvious he's going to go somewhere - aside from there being too much media smoke for there not be a fire, he hasn't featured in any official social media stuff from the club. As someone said very early on in this frustratingly familiar saga, it's odd that our 2016 Euro winning captain has had no coverage. If the clubs have suspected he is leaving then I hope they have at least one new CB lined up and that we don't sleepwalk into another season with a patched up defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 I think Jose is going to go & that explains the "3" possible incomings before the deadline IMO. Let's be honest, none of us want him to go, but we all know the routine. The echo even said he's staying unless we get an "eye watering" offer. (Aka £8m) which they can probably find down their sofa. How is £8m an eye watering offer? It would cost much more than that to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Would take Phil Jones if Fonte does go, personally don't think he's going anywhere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 How is £8m an eye watering offer? It would cost much more than that to replace him. I agree, but I believe that was the figure quoted. (And if that's true, then that's why I think he will go) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 What is the point in selling him for £8million? You can't get **** all for that nowadays, we would have to spend at least double that to get the same quality in. If he wants to go I would rather let him sulk in the reserves for the rest of his time here than take £8mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 I cannot believe the club will let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 I cannot believe the club will let him go. Burt you will slag the club off if they do, so you are hoping he goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 What is the point in selling him for £8million? You can't get **** all for that nowadays, we would have to spend at least double that to get the same quality in. If he wants to go I would rather let him sulk in the reserves for the rest of his time here than take £8mill. Fonte is hardly the type of player to sulk. Some of our fans have no appreciation for what a great club servant he has been for us. It seems the only person people are devoted to now is Les Reed. Our players know they will all be sold anyway as part of the club's 'business model' and many of our fans will turn ahainst them as soon as there is a transfer riumour 'leaked' from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Fonte is hardly the type of player to sulk. Some of our fans have no appreciation for what a great club servant he has been for us. It seems the only person people are devoted to now is Les Reed. Our players know they will all be sold anyway as part of the club's 'business model' and many of our fans will turn ahainst them as soon as there is a transfer riumour 'leaked' from the club. I never said he would sulk, I don't think he would, it's just that is often trotted out as a reason to flog an in contract player. We could turn down his move and he would still do a great job for us which is why we would be completely nuts to sell him for £8mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 August, 2016 Share Posted 21 August, 2016 Fonte is different to our other departures in that he has no leverage. Everyone else has been able to say 'sell me now or I will leave next summer/2 years'. With Jose that simply isn't a threat, so we hold old the aces. He will stay unless its to our advantage to sell him, I.e. We have another Virgil/Toby/Lovren lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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