Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 What does NATO do if there's a military coup in a member state ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Turkish Military Says It Has Taken Over The Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 What does NATO do if there's a military coup in a member state ? Send for Boris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 What is the motivation here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2016 What is the motivation here? if it does not please Russia, could be very messy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 if it does not please Russia, could be very messy Russian backed then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Send for Boris? Well he did write a poem about the President of turkey, calling him an anchor . Perhaps the military chiefs agreed Other countries use tanks and guns to get rid of leaders , we just need a bloke from Kent who likes real ale . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Send for Boris? The model of diplomacy required for the Foreign Office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 This is the Franz Ferdinand moment that kicks off World War Three. Take me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 This is the Franz Ferdinand moment that kicks off World War Three. Take me out. What an absolute mess this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 This is Europe though, down through the centuries. Twas ever thus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2016 What an absolute mess this is. I wonder when a variant of Islam will play its part in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Turkey do have form for this kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 The current secular regime is only in power wit the tacit agreement of the Military; this may just be a reminder from a few disgruntled right wing generals that the Government is moving away from 1923 and more toward Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Does this mean Marmaris holidays going to be even cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Does this mean Marmaris holidays going to be even cheaper? For most people yes, unfortunately you are going to have to pay in dodgy sterling so suck it up, Morecambe and Margate are likely to be cheaper (and safer) than Marmaris for the foreseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 For most people yes, unfortunately you are going to have to pay in dodgy sterling so suck it up, Morecambe and Margate are likely to be cheaper (and safer) than Marmaris for the foreseeable. Isn't Margate pretty much ISIS territory? Actual come to think of it that was MAidstone. Can relax and eat me cockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 This isn't going their EU case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Isn't Margate pretty much ISIS territory? Actual come to think of it that was MAidstone. Can relax and eat me cockles No, Margate is UKIP territory. Too many acronyms to keep track of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 For most people yes, unfortunately you are going to have to pay in dodgy sterling so suck it up, Morecambe and Margate are likely to be cheaper (and safer) than Marmaris for the foreseeable. And more crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 This is Europe though, down through the centuries. Twas ever thus. We need to bring Europe together somehow. Some kind of union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 The model of diplomacy required for the Foreign Office Foreign Office diplomacy in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 We need to bring Europe together somehow. Some kind of union. With Turkey in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2016 be in the EU within 5 years. good show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 With Turkey in? Sure. And Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 We need to bring Europe together somehow. Some kind of union. Lets start with a trade union, see how we go from there. Couldn't possibly be warped into anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 I wonder when a variant of Islam will play its part in this? Sounds like the secular military are trying to overthrow the Islamist government. Bet that's got you all confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Lets start with a trade union, see how we go from there. Couldn't possibly be warped into anything else. You might need some sort of court. Where you can carry out the rules that we all agree on. Or summat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Sounds like the secular military are trying to overthrow the Islamist government. Bet that's got you all confused... I'm not sure he gets how an Islamic people can have a secular government - given they're all medieval savages an all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2016 I'm not sure he gets how an Islamic people can have a secular government - given they're all medieval savages an all. nothing says sophistication more than a good old military coup to over throw a democratically elected government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 So you wouldn't support a restoration of democracy here if an authoritarian government was in power? Not going to keep your oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Erdogan appearing on TV via FaceTime from wherever he's holed up. Calling for people to take to the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 All social media blocked in Turkey https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/15/facebook-twitter-and-youtube-blocked-in-turkey-during-reported-coup-attempt/ Crazy stuff. Curfews? As in 'stay in doors or we blow your head off?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2016 So you wouldn't support a restoration of democracy . not really what is happening in Turkey though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Erdogan on a plane to London where he will be greeted by Boris... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Erdogan is an Islamist fascist. Freedoms - personal and press - have been eroded for years under this guy. Anyone who dissents against erdogan basically gets jailed: including the military. His policy with the Kurds, cosying up to ISIS, etc. were all driving Turkey away from the secular, inclusive ways of Ataturk. He was moving Turkey so far away from the Ataturk model that they could easily have become another Islamic state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Appears that overnight the Coup has failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Attempts to over throw democracy in Turkey have failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Didnt take long Labour MP Chris Bryant saying that BREXIT has played a part in the attempted coup and destabilising frictions in Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Didnt take long Labour MP Chris Bryant saying that BREXIT has played a part in the attempted coup and destabilising frictions in Turkey. He should stick to taking selfies in his under pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Didnt take long Labour MP Chris Bryant saying that BREXIT has played a part in the attempted coup and destabilising frictions in Turkey. What??? Even I wouldn't blame Brexit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 17 July, 2016 Share Posted 17 July, 2016 Quote Erdogan : "Democracy is merely a train that we ride until we reach our goal, the mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers." This guy is a problem but I reckon that as long he's in charge, Turkey won't be part of the EU. So I guess it's a good thing that he stays on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 July, 2016 Share Posted 19 July, 2016 Erdogan now 'purging' the country of anyone holding a differing ideology it would seem. Teachers, university deans, preachers, military leaders. This'll end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 July, 2016 Share Posted 20 July, 2016 NATO members - how does that work. Can you get booted out? And yes I know strategically crucial so unlikely but islamisation of education system seems very much at odds with what NATO stands for, Good old days before social media the coup could have well been successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 20 July, 2016 Share Posted 20 July, 2016 Erdogan now 'purging' the country of anyone holding a differing ideology it would seem. Teachers, university deans, preachers, military leaders. This'll end well. Terrible for Turkey: A dictatorship and police state, foreign investment will dry up (although I expect some very good arms deals may be negotiated). Potentially Good for the Rest of Europe: Zero chance of Turkey joining the EU now, and a buffer zone between continental Europe and the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 July, 2016 Share Posted 20 July, 2016 Terrible for Turkey: A dictatorship and police state, foreign investment will dry up (although I expect some very good arms deals may be negotiated). Potentially Good for the Rest of Europe: Zero chance of Turkey joining the EU now, and a buffer zone between continental Europe and the Middle East. Potentially bad for the EU...a new exode of Turks fleeing the oppression there. Still at least they might be westernised Turks and not those drawn to more islamism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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