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beavis17

beavis17

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I don't know TBH. I was told originally that he'd be used in a £50m + player deal for VvD and it then seemed to morph into ££ + player for Bertrand when it appeared VvD wasn't going anywhere. Perhaps the club have Said Bertrand isn't now going anywhere either, I genuinely haven't a clue.

 

All I do know was that City fully expected to have Bertrand in as 1 of 4 full backs to be bought this window. I may find more out this weekend if I'm out with the chap from Manchester.

 

I'm loathe to put to much on here as the usual dins are all over it.

 

Personally I'd take £25m + player for Bertrand.

 

They rate Iheanacho at £25m so you think Bertrand is worth £50m?

SKD

SKD

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I don't know TBH. I was told originally that he'd be used in a £50m + player deal for VvD and it then seemed to morph into ££ + player for Bertrand when it appeared VvD wasn't going anywhere. Perhaps the club have Said Bertrand isn't now going anywhere either, I genuinely haven't a clue.

 

All I do know was that City fully expected to have Bertrand in as 1 of 4 full backs to be bought this window. I may find more out this weekend if I'm out with the chap from Manchester.

 

I'm loathe to put to much on here as the usual dins are all over it.

 

Personally I'd take £25m + player for Bertrand.

 

I'd snap their hand off at either of them deals if i'm honest. Ultimately, both want to leave (I would be very very surprised if we still have Bertrand come the end of the window) and whilst they would be missed, they are easier to replace (especially with £50m...) than finding a forward of the quality of Iheanacho. Who, if you ask me, is top class.

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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I'd snap their hand off at either of them deals if i'm honest. Ultimately, both want to leave (I would be very very surprised if we still have Bertrand come the end of the window) and whilst they would be missed, they are easier to replace (especially with £50m...) than finding a forward of the quality of Iheanacho. Who, if you ask me, is top class.

 

Tune changed a bit then from your "he`s definitely off" stance.... ;)

Batman

Batman

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I think Bertrand will go.

More so, we probably have to let him go as no way do we want to be in the position of replacing LB, CB and RB in one go next summer

 

 

just hope targett/McQueen are not seen as the 'replacement'

SKD

SKD

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Tune changed a bit then from your "he`s definitely off" stance.... ;)

 

Nope, tune hasn't changed. Had Puel and his backroom staff (assuming these are gone as well) remained then yes, he would have definitely been off. As would a few others.

 

Who knows what the new manager will bring? The squad may instantly fall in love with him and never want to go. As things stand, assuming an acceptable offer is made and we don't have another Fonte situation (player wanting to go to x club and x club never making a serious offer), he will go.

a1ex2001

a1ex2001

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I'd take a straight swap but City would have to drop the buy back option, it's a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned.

 

Don't see the problem as long as the buy back fee is set sufficiently high!

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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Nope, tune hasn't changed. Had Puel and his backroom staff (assuming these are gone as well) remained then yes, he would have definitely been off. As would a few others.

 

Who knows what the new manager will bring? The squad may instantly fall in love with him and never want to go. As things stand, assuming an acceptable offer is made and we don't have another Fonte situation (player wanting to go to x club and x club never making a serious offer), he will go.

 

So its "might be off" then...right

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qwertyell

qwertyell

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Do City have any Home Grown players what so ever, apart from Stones and Sterling?

Angus Gunn, the England u21 keeper (and son of former Norwich keeper Bryan) will probably be their third choice keeper now Caballero's gone.

 

Patrick Roberts would count as a home grown player - albeit developed at Fulham. However, he's yet to play for them and probably has another year out on loan somewhere in his near future.

 

They've got a pretty excellent youth team, haven't they - them and Chelsea have hoovered up all the talent in recent years. So presumably there will be one or two on the fringes of the first team before long.

 

Slim pickings, though.

a1ex2001

a1ex2001

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Angus Gunn, the England u21 keeper (and son of former Norwich keeper Bryan) will probably be their third choice keeper now Caballero's gone.

 

Patrick Roberts would count as a home grown player - albeit developed at Fulham. However, he's yet to play for them and probably has another year out on loan somewhere in his near future.

 

They've got a pretty excellent youth team, haven't they - them and Chelsea have hoovered up all the talent in recent years. So presumably there will be one or two on the fringes of the first team before long.

 

Slim pickings, though.

 

Both City and Chelsea seem incapable of turning great youth prospects into quality end product!

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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I think Bertrand will go.

More so, we probably have to let him go as no way do we want to be in the position of replacing LB, CB and RB in one go next summer

 

 

just hope targett/McQueen are not seen as the 'replacement'

 

I can't see anywhere for him to go to though.......

SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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Man city IMO

 

Will depend on the Mendy deal, but I see no reason why they won't nail that one.

 

After he signs, a move to City might suddenly seem a bit "Chelsea bench" to him. (Hopefully).

 

I'm keeping half an eye on Liverpool left-back targets, as I don't trust those pesky scouse people.

Dellman

Dellman

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He's not going. Les said so. Why keep on keeping on? it's a waste of time and space. He's not going. We've got him. He's ours, under contract. Get used to it

SFCRedandWhite

SFCRedandWhite

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Angus Gunn, the England u21 keeper (and son of former Norwich keeper Bryan) will probably be their third choice keeper now Caballero's gone.

 

Patrick Roberts would count as a home grown player - albeit developed at Fulham. However, he's yet to play for them and probably has another year out on loan somewhere in his near future.

 

They've got a pretty excellent youth team, haven't they - them and Chelsea have hoovered up all the talent in recent years. So presumably there will be one or two on the fringes of the first team before long.

 

Slim pickings, though.

 

Gunns back at Norwich on loan

Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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I wonder if this is Reeds last season and he is trying to go out with a mini bang?

 

Seems odd that he's sold anything and everything the previous 3 summers and openly flogs us as a stepping stone club fighting it out for 8-12th spot and then suddenly slams the stable doors.

 

Great for us, but feels very much like we are building to a huge sale list next summer.

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Katalinic

Katalinic

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I wonder if this is Reeds last season and he is trying to go out with a mini bang?

 

Seems odd that he's sold anything and everything the previous 3 summers and openly flogs us as a stepping stone club fighting it out for 8-12th spot and then suddenly slams the stable doors.

 

Great for us, but feels very much like we are building to a huge sale list next summer.

 

Poor effort - getting tired, maybe go the JRod route and go for a new username #freshstart

CB Fry

CB Fry

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I wonder if this is Reeds last season and he is trying to go out with a mini bang?

 

Seems odd that he's sold anything and everything the previous 3 summers and openly flogs us as a stepping stone club fighting it out for 8-12th spot and then suddenly slams the stable doors.

 

Great for us, but feels very much like we are building to a huge sale list next summer.

There's a routine in there somewhere. Don't give up.

 

3/10.

Saint-Reece

Saint-Reece

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I wonder if this is Reeds last season and he is trying to go out with a mini bang?

 

Seems odd that he's sold anything and everything the previous 3 summers and openly flogs us as a stepping stone club fighting it out for 8-12th spot and then suddenly slams the stable doors.

 

Great for us, but feels very much like we are building to a huge sale list next summer.

 

You fully well know why, the reasonings have been explained and posted on this very forum and you know it.

Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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You fully well know why, the reasonings have been explained and posted on this very forum and you know it.

 

So we are no longer a stepping stone club?

 

Jan Bednarek spoke quite openly about us being a stepping stone club just a few days ago?

pluto

pluto

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So we are no longer a stepping stone club?

 

Jan Bednarek spoke quite openly about us being a stepping stone club just a few days ago?

 

I fail to understand why you bother with SFC, all you do is moan 24/7, it aint normal.

Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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I fail to understand why you bother with SFC, all you do is moan 24/7, it aint normal.

 

Whose moaning?

 

Youre moaning about me moaning but i ain't moaning.... :)

 

If we are no longer a stepping stone club, i just worry how that affects those players signed on the premise that we are a stepping stone club?

CB Fry

CB Fry

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If we are no longer a stepping stone club, i just worry how that affects those players signed on the premise that we are a stepping stone club?

 

This is like when they pay a visit to Lincolnshire's last remaining blacksmith on Countryfile. Masterful.

itchen

itchen

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Whose moaning?

 

Youre moaning about me moaning but i ain't moaning.... :)

 

If we are no longer a stepping stone club, i just worry how that affects those players signed on the premise that we are a stepping stone club?

 

Who's, you're and the first person pronoun is a capital "I".

 

It's tedious enough reading your repetitive drivel. At least do us the courtesy of using English correctly.

itchen

itchen

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Whose moaning?

 

Youre moaning about me moaning but i ain't moaning.... :)

 

If we are no longer a stepping stone club, i just worry how that affects those players signed on the premise that we are a stepping stone club?

 

Who's, you're and the first person pronoun is a capital "I".

 

It's tedious enough reading your repetitive drivel. At least do us the courtesy of using English correctly.

angelman

angelman

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Haven't read the article but IMHO John Cross is an absolute helmet.

 

Cross is one of those reporters who seems to try and curry favour with the big clubs, at the expense of journalistic integrity (lacking impartiality, or at least slanting things so far one way), so I think that I probably agree with your summation of him. Still quite a long way to go to overtake Samuels in the helmet stakes.

angelman

angelman

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Haven't read the article but IMHO John Cross is an absolute helmet.

 

Cross is one of those reporters who seems to try and curry favour with the big clubs, at the expense of journalistic integrity (lacking impartiality, or at least slanting things so far one way), so I think that I probably agree with your summation of him. Still quite a long way to go to overtake Samuels in the helmet stakes.

cellone

cellone

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I wonder if this is Reeds last season and he is trying to go out with a mini bang?

 

Seems odd that he's sold anything and everything the previous 3 summers and openly flogs us as a stepping stone club fighting it out for 8-12th spot and then suddenly slams the stable doors.

 

Great for us, but feels very much like we are building to a huge sale list next summer.

 

Hope he is just proving his worth and with the players coming in or stepping up and with none going out it could be the start of us entering the level we're aiming for team wise not league position. If Les can pull it off and shape the future I'll be happy as and hold him in high esteem. Even though if he doe's there'll be countless vids of him knocking one out about it. He has a lot to make up after fkn it up last year but reckon he has the balls and the backing to pull it off this season.

cellone

cellone

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I wonder if this is Reeds last season and he is trying to go out with a mini bang?

 

Seems odd that he's sold anything and everything the previous 3 summers and openly flogs us as a stepping stone club fighting it out for 8-12th spot and then suddenly slams the stable doors.

 

Great for us, but feels very much like we are building to a huge sale list next summer.

 

Hope he is just proving his worth and with the players coming in or stepping up and with none going out it could be the start of us entering the level we're aiming for team wise not league position. If Les can pull it off and shape the future I'll be happy as and hold him in high esteem. Even though if he doe's there'll be countless vids of him knocking one out about it. He has a lot to make up after fkn it up last year but reckon he has the balls and the backing to pull it off this season.

Shroppie

Shroppie

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Who's, you're and the first person pronoun is a capital "I".

 

It's tedious enough reading your repetitive drivel. At least do us the courtesy of using English correctly.

Excellent work. Welcome to the pilkunnussijas. We should form an official group of grammar and punctuation moderators.

 

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Shroppie

Shroppie

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Who's, you're and the first person pronoun is a capital "I".

 

It's tedious enough reading your repetitive drivel. At least do us the courtesy of using English correctly.

Excellent work. Welcome to the pilkunnussijas. We should form an official group of grammar and punctuation moderators.

 

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Dusic

Dusic

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Being linked again with City for £25m.

 

In the prime of his career, having not long ago signed a long term deal and being England's first choice LB with Rose out injured then the price should be higher - especially given the fees this summer.

 

To sell for £25m would be very poor business.

 

Clearly one of Bertrand, Targett and McQueen will be moving in some form though as cannot have three left backs especially when two need matches to develop...

angelman

angelman

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Now this £25m is a figure others have come up with, not SFC. Its like VVD, LFC and £50m. All rather meaningless without getting our agreement. TalkSport were quoting £30m and the dipsomaniac added "it looks like he's off to City" as if it is a fait accompli.

John B

John B

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I would rather keep Bertrand

 

Me too but if I was him I would jump at the chance to earn more money and play in the Champions League wouldnt you

 

It is just a job to Ryan after all

Winnersaint

Winnersaint

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Me too but if I was him I would jump at the chance to earn more money and play in the Champions League wouldnt you

 

It is just a job to Ryan after all

 

If people were consistent the same attitude should apply to VvD. I don't see any difference.

John B

John B

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If people were consistent the same attitude should apply to VvD. I don't see any difference.

 

Neither do I

 

If I was a footballer I would rather play for Liverpool than Southampton

 

But that said the players do have contracts to play for Southampton

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