Matthew Le God Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 He'll take a look at under 21 players over the coming weeks, but the 1st team squad as it stands today... [b] Goalkeepers [/b] Forster Gazzaniga [b]Right backs[/b] Cedric Soares Martina [b]Left Backs[/b] Bertrand Targett [b]Centre backs[/b] van Dijk Fonte Gardos Yoshida [b]Central Midfielders [/b]Clasie Ward-Prowse Davis Romeu Reed [b]Attacking players [/b]Pelle Austin Long Rodriguez Tadic Redmond That is 21 players. If we have no more outgoings to replace, at the very least we need to take it to 24 with... - another keeper - a Wanyama replacement - a Mane replacement (assuming Redmond is to replace Juanmi in the squad) As things currently stand, it could be something like... Forster Cedric Fonte van Dijk Bertrand Clasie Romeu Redmond Davis Tadic Long 7 Subs: Gazzaniga, Yoshida, Martina, Ward-Prowse, Rodriguez, Austin, Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Gaston replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Reed and Targett are the only two that can be named in the u21s of of that lot. We have 8 home grown out of the other 19. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 He'll take a look at under 21 players over the coming weeks, but the 1st team squad as it stands today... [b] Goalkeepers [/b] Forster Gazzaniga [b]Right backs[/b] Cedric Soares Martina [b]Left Backs[/b] Bertrand Targett [b]Centre backs[/b] van Dijk Fonte Gardos Yoshida [b]Central Midfielders [/b]Clasie Ward-Prowse Davis Romeu Reed [b]Attacking players [/b]Pelle Austin Long Rodriguez Tadic Redmond That is 21 players. If we have no more outgoings to replace, at the very least we need to take it to 24 with... - another keeper - a Wanyama replacement - a Mane replacement (assuming Redmond is to replace Juanmi in the squad) As things currently stand, it could be something like... Forster Cedric Fonte van Dijk Bertrand Clasie Romeu Redmond Davis Tadic Long 7 Subs: Gazzaniga, Yoshida, Martina, Ward-Prowse, Rodriguez, Austin, Pelle Assuming we keep Pelle and J-rod is fit for a season we look pretty good on the attacking side. Midfield looks very light to me definitely need a player or two in there. First choice defence looks good, back up full backs ok but would like extra cover at CB rather than Gardos and Yoshida. Need another back up keeper but could see the club easily going with Gazza. So for me a quality CDM, an AM (to give Davis some competition), another quality CB and a good back up keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 In my mind, the number one priority is a number 10 player. It was the one thing we lacked last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 In my mind, the number one priority is a number 10 player. It was the one thing we lacked last season. Club really don't have a good record in this area - if we get one lets hope he can make a contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 That is 21 players. If we have no more outgoings to replace, at the very least we need to take it to 24 with... - another keeper - a Wanyama replacement - a Mane replacement (assuming Redmond is to replace Juanmi in the squad) As things currently stand, it could be something like... Forster Cedric Fonte van Dijk Bertrand Clasie Romeu [b][b][color="#FF0000"][b] Redmond Davis Tadic[/color][/b][/b][/b] Long 7 Subs: Gazzaniga, Yoshida, Martina, Ward-Prowse, Rodriguez, Austin, Pelle Competition in those positions and a Wanyama replacement needed. Oh and of course a 2nd choice GK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Agree that we were sorely lacking a goalscoring threat from midfield last season. However, I don't doubt that Steven Davis is an important player and certainly good enough to play some sort of role. The two individuals there that concern me are Cedric and Clasie. Have hope that under new management Cedric could improve and go on to be good, but not sure the same could be said of Clasie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 (edited) Having just watched the opening two minutes of the Poland-Portugal game, I retract my Cedric statement... Edited 30 June, 2016 by mrfahaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunit Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 From what i've heard Puel likes to play either a 3-5-2 (with the attacking wing backs) or 4-1-2-1-2. So we'll be playing two up top whatever. Im excited to see us play with two up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 From what i've heard Puel likes to play either a 3-5-2 (with the attacking wing backs) or 4-1-2-1-2. So we'll be playing two up top whatever. Im excited to see us play with two up top. Last year he played 2 up top but throughout his management career he has played many different formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 From what i've heard Puel likes to play either a 3-5-2 (with the attacking wing backs) or 4-1-2-1-2. So we'll be playing two up top whatever. Im excited to see us play with two up top. Neither of those formations will suit Tadic or Redmond, I'll be sorry to see Dusan surplus to requirements, and would be strange to sign Redmond only to have him sitting on the bench every week. Also, wasn't one of the pre-requisites for the job that they play a 4-3-3 in accordance with the tactics played throughout the club? Not saying you're wrong on what you've heard, in fact I have heard similar, but my guess would be that Puel will use 4-3-3 and change to the other formations as and when appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Having just watched the opening two minutes of the Poland-Portugal game, I retract my Cedric statement... He concerns you, or he could be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Agree that we were sorely lacking a goalscoring threat from midfield last season. It wasn't just last season. When have we scored goals from midfield? Lallana got 9 in his last season with us and was a threat to boot. Gaston got 6 the season before but wasn't really a threat in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 It wasn't just last season. When have we scored goals from midfield? Lallana got 9 in his last season with us and was a threat to boot. Gaston got 6 the season before but wasn't really a threat in the same way. Agreed - I was thinking about last season when I wrote it, but as you say, it has been a problem area for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 He concerns you, or he could be good? That he could be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Gaston replacement? He hasn't been in the squad for a couple of years now. His replacement was basically Mané. Assuming we bring in someone else to replace Sadio, I don't think we'll be bring in a third attacking midfielder, now we have Redmond. I think we'll replace Mané, Victor and Stek/Kelvin and that'll be us for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatball Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Will we replace Victor? With Clasie, JWP, Harry, Romeu and Stevie D I just don't think that is where we need to strengthen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 June, 2016 Share Posted 30 June, 2016 Will we replace Victor? With Clasie, JWP, Harry, Romeu and Stevie D I just don't think that is where we need to strengthen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We do need to strengthen there, other than Romeu who is hit and miss we have no physical presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Definitely need a second aggressive defensive midfielder for when Romeu is suspended or injured . A better RB to replace Cedric or if not a better CB to replace Fonte as he is not the player he used to be . With Jrod and Austin both being injury prone we really need a dangerous striker plus another to upgrade on Pelle . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 I think we'll replace Mané, Victor and Stek/Kelvin and that'll be us for the summer. That'll be a disappointment IMO, we can't just stand still so we need replacements for those players AND improvement in other areas. I doubt much improvement in any of our current players, though the likes of Cedric & Clasie may improve as they won't be new to the league anymore and hopefully JWP and Targett will kick on a bit but aside that we don't have any youngsters that will suddenly burst onto the scene and most of the other players are probably as good as they are going to be. There are of course question marks around Jay Rod and to a lesser extent Austin, fully fit and back on form those two could be massive but it's a big IF, especially for Jay Rod. Every other Prem club is awash with cash and will probably improve, with their new managers it's almost certain that Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea will improve a lot. Biggest improvement are for me would a no.10 as other have mentioned, someone to score us some worldys, turn a drab game around etc. If we had a Payet, Mahrez or Coutinho last year we'd be currently in the Champions League. I'd also worry about our centre back cover as well. I'd be looking for someone that could challenge Fonte's spot. Plus maybe a better right back or more quality there and there are question marks about our Strikers, though I think a fully fit season from Austin could easily be a 20 goals man and considering that guy is on the bench for Belgium and scored 17 goals for nice is going for nearly £40 million it might be an optimistic area. I'd hope if the rumours about them being available we'd look at Ox-Chamberlain, Morgan and Chambers, plus I quite like the potential interest in Behrahino, also depending on price and wages maybe look at Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 His performances this last season have been worse than in previous seasons . As his pace is slowing he has more of a tendency to pull back players who move past him or make last ditch tackles . That suggests bad coaching or lack of confidence though. I liked him when he first signed for us and he's done well for Portugal. The problem is more likely within the club instead of the player not having the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Well it would still I think be a good idea to get another quality centre-back in to challenge both VVD and Fonte. With decent cup runs and if we get through to the Europa knock out stages we could be looking at 50+ plus games next season. Not sure Gardos or Yoshida can be relied on for any length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 That suggests bad coaching or lack of confidence though. I liked him when he first signed for us and he's done well for Portugal. The problem is more likely within the club instead of the player not having the ability. That is possible . I tended to think it was more related to his age . Would be good if the new coach can inspire his performances of old though . His age is still against him Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 That is possible . I tended to think it was more related to his age . Would be good if the new coach can inspire his performances of old though . His age is still against him My mistake, I thought you were talking about Cedric. Yes agree about Fonte, age is starting to show a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 If Cedric can show the form which made us sign him it would be brilliant. Why Koeman refused to stick by him and coach him is beyond me . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 When did people on the internet become such whinging lemons? It's a few words, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Saints broadcasting live from Staplewood for the first training session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 1st view of new training kit .... VM logo doesn't really work on a shirt does it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Big year for Isgrove. He & McQueen always seem to start off really well in pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 I think I've seen Clasie but not no VvD. Where is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Looks like Romeu has been on the pies this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8267 Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 I think I've seen Clasie but not no VvD. Where is he? I was thinking the exact same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 I think I've seen Clasie but not no VvD. Where is he? Maybe they didn't have any training tops in his size .... or maybe doing photo shoots for the New Kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Big year for Isgrove. One year left on his contract? I would have thought he'd be quite in demand from a few Championship clubs this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 I think I've seen Clasie but not no VvD. Where is he? Vvd was involved with Dutch international team up until 4 th June. Clasie wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Vvd was involved with Dutch international team up until 4 th June. Clasie wasn't. Ahh, if they get a month off then he'll be back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 I think I've seen Clasie but not no VvD. Where is he? I was thinking the exact same thing... Maybe they didn't have any training tops in his size .... or maybe doing photo shoots for the New Kit? Played with Holland in friendlies so gets extra time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Didn't know Noel Fielding was part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Really hoping Austin has a strong pre-season, stays injury free and starts off the season bang in form. Would be a great addition to the squad then - we carried him along last season after that superb debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Really hoping Austin has a strong pre-season, stays injury free and starts off the season bang in form. Would be a great addition to the squad then - we carried him along last season after that superb debut TBF towards the end of the season he was fit again but by that time Long, Pelle and Mane were on form and he couldn't back in the side. He still scored more than any of our attackers in a **** QPR team the season before if he is fit and gets regular game time I'd back him to get 15 goals next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 It will be interesting to see who CP will put his faith in for the starting places and any youngsters he will encourage to be part of the first team selection. It maybe the case he sees something in a player to give him a chance. That may dictate any purchases the club will make. What is guaranteed is there will be some unhappy people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Dom Gape is listed with the first team on the profiles on the official website. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2016 Share Posted 1 July, 2016 Well it would still I think be a good idea to get another quality centre-back in to challenge both VVD and Fonte. With decent cup runs and if we get through to the Europa knock out stages we could be looking at 50+ plus games next season. Not sure Gardos or Yoshida can be relied on for any length of time. That's why they're back up. If they were good enough to be first team players for us, they wouldn't be content being sat on the bench. People say stuff like 'imagine if we still had Fonte, VvD, Lovren and Toby'... Well we wouldn't, two of those players are never going to be happy sitting on our bench and they'd leave. Yoshi and Gardos are pretty much our level for 3/4th choice CB. No offence but your other list looks a bit Championship manager. If you think we're going to be investing big in 7 or 8 players you will be disappointed. We've got Austin, Long, J Rod, Pelle, Tadic, Redmond, Davis and JWP fighting over 4 attacking slots. Add a replacement for Mané and 9 into 4 is already pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelling Saint Posted 2 July, 2016 Share Posted 2 July, 2016 Watched a bit of the YouTube video, bit worrying when a few of the players were tackled by a yellow pole on numerous occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 2 July, 2016 Share Posted 2 July, 2016 A much better atmosphere around training already Interesting....care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 July, 2016 Share Posted 2 July, 2016 A much better atmosphere around training already any more on this? what was the atmosphere like towards the end of last season. Even on a great run? there was clearly a few issues but any info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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