Brexit - Post Match Reaction

[trousers]

3 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

More EU trading regulations coming into force tomorrow. General product safety regulations (GPSR). More paperwork for exporters. More cost for exporters when selling into the EU. We have of course had no say in drawing up these rules but will need to accept them. So much for our "sovereignty". 

This country really knew how to shoot itself in the foot when voting for Brexit. 

 

Permission to exhibit my stupidy / naivety m'lud...

Having regulations to ensure products are generally safe sounds like a reasonably good idea to me, on the premise that unsafe products aren't a good idea.... But the bit I don't get is, if I make something in a country that is inside the EU and sell it to another country that's also inside the EU, why wouldn't I be adhering to the same or similar regulations as a country that makes the same product outside the EU selling into to a country that's inside the EU? Surely there's "paperwork" involved in adhering to any kind of regulation, regardless of whether your company is inside or outside the a given trading block? The ultimate aim here is to ensure products are "safe", wherever they are made, surely...?

In other words, what does a company outside the EU have to do differently to a country inside the EU to prove that their goods are "safe"...?

As I say, maybe I'm being as thick as those that voted for Brexit here....

p.s. my company produces software... we sell it to countries inside and outside the EU without any significant difference in paperwork.... (indeed, UK contracts are often more complicated than non-UK ones....) why can't it be that simple for other sectors...?

Edited 11 December, 2024 by trousers

[trousers]

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Edited 11 December, 2024 by trousers
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[badgerx16]

53 minutes ago, trousers said:

Permission to exhibit my stupidy / naivety m'lud...

Having regulations to ensure products are generally safe sounds like a reasonably good idea to me, on the premise that unsafe products aren't a good idea.... But the bit I don't get is, if I make something in a country that is inside the EU and sell it to another country that's also inside the EU, why wouldn't I be adhering to the same or similar regulations as a country that makes the same product outside the EU selling into to a country that's inside the EU? Surely there's "paperwork" involved in adhering to any kind of regulation, regardless of whether your company is inside or outside the a given trading block? The ultimate aim here is to ensure products are "safe", wherever they are made, surely...?

In other words, what does a company outside the EU have to do differently to a country inside the EU to prove that their goods are "safe"...?

As I say, maybe I'm being as thick as those that voted for Brexit here....

p.s. my company produces software... we sell it to countries inside and outside the EU without any significant difference in paperwork.... (indeed, UK contracts are often more complicated than non-UK ones....) why can't it be that simple for other sectors...?

It depends on whether there is equivalence of regulation between those inside and those out. Prior to Brexit the UK complied with EU rules, so no issue. Post Brexit the UK has, or has shown intention to, roll back certain EU "Red Tape" and therefore can not, ( or will not ), guarantee to meet the EU's certification criteria. This, of course, works both ways, and the UK can, but currently does not, enforce reciprocal bureaucracy.

There is, in all likelihood, no difference between EU and UK products, but the UK has chosen not to "surrender" it's sovereignty to a bunch of unelected Brussels ( and Strasbourg ) civil servants by signing a bit of paper that states this.

Edited 11 December, 2024 by badgerx16

[Whitey Grandad]

The European Court of Justice is primarily there to ensure that there is conformity in the Single Market. Some people in the UK believed that the ECJ was a case of ‘them’ telling ‘us’ what to do but of course the ‘them’ included ‘us’ at that time.

We can sell into the EU if we can prove that our products comply with their standards but and product testing facility has to be located within the EU.

[Danbert]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/12/majority-of-brexit-voters-would-accept-free-movement-to-access-single-market-uk-eu

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Danbert said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/12/majority-of-brexit-voters-would-accept-free-movement-to-access-single-market-uk-eu

It's a bit late now. Buyer's remorse?

Edited 12 December, 2024 by Whitey Grandad

[Danbert]

5 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

It's a bit late now. Buyer's remorse?

Idiots

[sadoldgit]

On 12/12/2024 at 06:44, Danbert said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/12/majority-of-brexit-voters-would-accept-free-movement-to-access-single-market-uk-eu

Starmer really needs to man up and stop pussyfooting around the issue. He seems terrified of becoming a target for Farage and Badenoch for going soft on Brexit whilst more and more people realise what an unmitigated disaster it has been for the UK and our economy. Brexit isn’t going to be overturned any time soon, but we need to find ways to make it work better for us (and the members of the EU).

[Lord Duckhunter]

Make him stop 

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Make him stop 

Put him on ignore.

[sadoldgit]

5 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Make him stop 

No one makes you read my posts. Why don’t you do us both a favour, and that goes to the other usual suspects, and put me on ignore? If you continue to read and respond to them it shows an element of either masochism  or a strange need to find and respond to triggering impulse on here. It is not healthy.

Edited 13 December, 2024 by sadoldgit
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[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

No one makes you read my posts. Why don’t you do us both a favour, and that goes to the other usual suspects, and put me on ignore? If you continue to read and respond to them it shows an element of either masochism  or a strange need to find and respond to triggering impulse on here. It is not healthy.

If “the usual suspects” had you on ignore it’d be only you posting on the last two threads you started 

[Tamesaint]

16 minutes ago, Turkish said:

If “the usual suspects” had you on ignore it’d be only you posting on the last two threads you started 

.... And that would be more enjoyable for all of us . 

Why don't you grow up and leave Sog alone? Your obsession with him and your need to reply to everything he posts makes you a sad, obsessed weirdo. 

 

Edited 13 December, 2024 by Tamesaint

[hypochondriac]

8 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

.... And that would be more enjoyable for all of us . 

Why don't you grow up and leave Sog alone? Your obsession with him and your need to reply to everything he posts makes you a sad, obsessed weirdo. 

 

Probably worth pointing out that I went an entire year without responding to a single thing he said and he messaged about me multiple times. It didn't make a blind bit of difference if he was responded to or not. 

[Turkish]

9 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

.... And that would be more enjoyable for all of us . 

Why don't you grow up and leave Sog alone? Your obsession with him and your need to reply to everything he posts makes you a sad, obsessed weirdo. 

 

And deny him the attention?!

as hypo said I also ignored him for a while on several different occasions so he started to respond to my posts on various threads with his usual attacks, he loves it and he loves playing the victim

as for how I look I don’t care, I’m not here to be popular but that seems to be a be the case regardless. I’ve got 17 laughing emojis on a single post this week plus similar likes on a separate post. Not a personal best but shows what the wider forum things of me. It appears the forum is a better place with me despite what a few obsessed weirdos think. 

Edited 14 December, 2024 by Turkish

[Lord Duckhunter]

13 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Put him on ignore.

Yep, done. He’s jumped the shark now with his pointless links & his desperation to start an argument on every single thread. 

[east-stand-nic]

11 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

No one makes you read my posts. Why don’t you do us both a favour, and that goes to the other usual suspects, and put me on ignore? If you continue to read and respond to them it shows an element of either masochism  or a strange need to find and respond to triggering impulse on here. It is not healthy.

Does the same apply to people who (pretend) have people on ignore, but then take them off, then put them back on again, then take them off again?

[egg]

25 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Does the same apply to people who (pretend) have people on ignore, but then take them off, then put them back on again, then take them off again?

This has been done to death mate. People put people on ignore so that they don't have to be bored by the stuff they post, but can take a look if they want to. 

On the wider Point of SoG. He is irritating AF, but many threads are ruined by people reacting to him and making the thread about him rather than the subject. It's become more irritating than SoG tbh. 

[whelk]

44 minutes ago, egg said:

This has been done to death mate. People put people on ignore so that they don't have to be bored by the stuff they post, but can take a look if they want to. 

On the wider Point of SoG. He is irritating AF, but many threads are ruined by people reacting to him and making the thread about him rather than the subject. It's become more irritating than SoG tbh. 

When I look at threads and can see he is the last one to post I don’t bother opening up. No debate just whining about right wingers or needless links to news stories we can all find should we wish. Mods need to give him his fiver back

[Weston Super Saint]

52 minutes ago, egg said:

This has been done to death mate. People put people on ignore so that they don't have to be bored by the stuff they post, but can take a look if they want to. 

 

Which is all well and good and is probably how the function is used by the vast majority of posters.  Those that trumpet that they've got someone on ignore only to lament them every time they make a post, or take them off ignore to directly quote them, are definitely in the 'concerningly weird' category of forum members.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Which is all well and good and is probably how the function is used by the vast majority of posters.  Those that trumpet that they've got someone on ignore only to lament them every time they make a post, or take them off ignore to directly quote them, are definitely in the 'concerningly weird' category of forum members.

Exactly the whole point of the ignore function is that you ignore them. Not carry on reading their posts and reply when you want to. It’s even weirder to boast about it or to pretend you’ve got someone on ignore. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Exactly the whole point of the ignore function is that you ignore them. Not carry on reading their posts and reply when you want to. It’s even weirder to boast about it or to pretend you’ve got someone on ignore. 

That's your interpretation, but other people don't use it in that way. I don't currently have anyone on ignore, but if a poster is irritating me, I've used it a couple of times to avoid being faced with loads of annoying posts from them. If I chose to look, there's nowt wrong with that. 

Multiple threads are being dominated by the same old predictable responses to a predictably dull / attention seeking post from SoG. He can't argue on his own, but he'll carry on if people keep taking his bait. 

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, egg said:

That's your interpretation, but other people don't use it in that way. I don't currently have anyone on ignore, but if a poster is irritating me, I've used it a couple of times to avoid being faced with loads of annoying posts from them. If I chose to look, there's nowt wrong with that. 

Multiple threads are being dominated by the same old predictable responses to a predictably dull / attention seeking post from SoG. He can't argue on his own, but he'll carry on if people keep taking his bait. 

He’s become a joke figure now. No one is taking any bait, the last two threads he started the only response he’s got is people taking the piss out of him. Same for all the relentless shite he spams every thread with, no one biting, everyone pointing and laughing. 

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He’s become a joke figure now. No one is taking any bait, the last two threads he started the only response he’s got is people taking the piss out of him. Same for all the relentless shite he spams every thread with, no one biting, everyone pointing and laughing. 

You've described the bait taking process in action. 

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

You've described the bait taking process in action. 

So he’s deliberately set out to become the biggest joke figure in Mongboard history? His sole objective it for everyone to be laughing at him? Do me a favour, if people were arguing back about when reform is such a great party for the future of this country maybe you might be onto something. They’re not they’re laughing at him. 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

So he’s deliberately set out to become the biggest joke figure in Mongboard history? His sole objective it for everyone to be laughing at him? Do me a favour, if people were arguing back about when reform is such a great party for the future of this country maybe you might be onto something. They’re not they’re laughing at him. 

His posts are designed to get a reaction of some sort - that's one purpose of SM and forums. He gets that. If people think that taking the piss in response adds anything positive to the forum that's a matter for them, but it doesn't. 

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, egg said:

His posts are designed to get a reaction of some sort - that's one purpose of SM and forums. He gets that. If people think that taking the piss in response adds anything positive to the forum that's a matter for them, but it doesn't. 

Glad we agree hes an attention seeking narcissist even if we don’t agree on why he does it. 👍

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Glad we agree hes an attention seeking narcissist even if we don’t agree on why he does it. 👍

 

7 hours ago, Turkish said:

 

as for how I look I don’t care, I’m not here to be popular but that seems to be a be the case regardless. I’ve got 17 laughing emojis on a single post this week plus similar likes on a separate post. Not a personal best but shows what the wider forum things of me. It appears the forum is a better place with me despite what a few obsessed weirdos think. 

 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

 

 

Stating facts isn’t narcissism pal

[badgerx16]

59 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Stating facts isn’t narcissism pal

"The forum is a better place with me".

 

Self praise is no praise.

[sadoldgit]

16 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

"The forum is a better place with me".

 

Self praise is no praise.

And the owner of the Ugly Inside decided that that forum would be a better place without him.

I could post that today is Saturday or just Happy Christmas and the usual suspects would still find an issue with it.

And despite being told countless times about the ignore function it seems they still fail to understand how it is used (and I am supposed to be the thick one).

Edited 14 December, 2024 by sadoldgit

[Turkish]

Just now, sadoldgit said:

And the owner of the Ugly Inside decided that that forum would be a better place without him.

Another lie 

[hypochondriac]

44 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

"The forum is a better place with me".

 

Self praise is no praise.

He pointed to evidence to support his claim so it's not some unsubstantiated opinion. He was also clearly joking. 

Edited 14 December, 2024 by hypochondriac

[The Kraken]

34 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Another lie 

It seems that he thinks repeating a lie over and over again makes it become true 🤪

[badgerx16]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

He pointed to evidence to support his claim so it's not some unsubstantiated opinion. He was also clearly joking. 

And on occasion, SOG is clearly fishing.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I’ve had Soggy on ignore this early this morning, and I haven’t read an anti semitic comment since, not read anything about lactating birds at work, or black female politicians. A coincidence? I think not….

[sadoldgit]

18 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

And on occasion, SOG is clearly fishing.

Frankly I am sick to death being followed around by people with nothing to do other than have a dig, so yes, occasionally I have a bit of a laugh at their expense. They really need to ask themselves why they read and respond to my posts so frequently if they find them to be such a problem for them. Surely they should just put me on ignore and carry on in blissful ignorance? It is the same people and it has been the same people for years (apart from nic who is a recent addition). Why bother? I would prefer that they didn’t read or respond to my posts but unfortunately there isn’t a reverse ignore function. 

What is particularly sad is that they don’t realise that they all come across as needy stalkers.

Edited 14 December, 2024 by sadoldgit
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[egg]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Glad we agree hes an attention seeking narcissist even if we don’t agree on why he does it. 👍

I've never labelled anyone on here a narcissist, and wouldn't. 

[egg]

14 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I’ve had Soggy on ignore this early this morning, and I haven’t read an anti semitic comment since, not read anything about lactating birds at work, or black female politicians. A coincidence? I think not….

This latest round of nonsense started with a make him stop post from you, followed by the predictable. You then claim to have put SoG on ignore, so post another daft goading post. It's pathetic, and the forum is a hell of a lot worse for it. 

[Turkish]

55 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

And on occasion, SOG is clearly fishing.

17 laughing responses to one post, 17.

Come back when you’ve got anywhere near that. 
 

Edited 14 December, 2024 by Turkish
It’s 18 now!!!

[Turkish]

44 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Frankly I am sick to death being followed around by people with nothing to do other than have a dig, so yes, occasionally I have a bit of a laugh at their expense. They really need to ask themselves why they read and respond to my posts so frequently if they find them to be such a problem for them. Surely they should just put me on ignore and carry on in blissful ignorance? It is the same people and it has been the same people for years (apart from nic who is a recent addition). Why bother? I would prefer that they didn’t read or respond to my posts but unfortunately there isn’t a reverse ignore function. 

What is particularly sad is that they don’t realise that they all come across as needy stalkers.

What’s even sadder is that you’ve spent your retirement trying to position yourself as the king of woke fighting injustice making the world better one forum post at a time and you’ve become a joke figure on 3 different boards.  That’s got to hurt. Devoting so much time, so much piety yet everyone just points and laughs. 

Edited 14 December, 2024 by Turkish

[badgerx16]

16 minutes ago, Turkish said:

17 laughing responses to one post, 17.

Come back when you’ve got anywhere near that. 

I don't partake in pointless posturing, or posting for effect. If garnering emojis is your fetish, bang on.

Edited 14 December, 2024 by badgerx16

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I don't partake in pointless posturing, or posting for effect. If garnering emojis is your fetish, bang on.

That's the response of a man starved of laughing emojis. 

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

That's the response of a man starved of laughing emojis. 

As opposed to the man so starved of affection that he cherishes every smiley he "collects" on a football forum.

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

As opposed to the man so starved of affection that he cherishes every smiley he "collects" on a football forum.

In a world with no humour the man with a single laughing emoji is king. You’ll find your level, of that I am sure. 

[badgerx16]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

In a world with no humour the man with a single laughing emoji is king. You’ll find your level, of that I am sure. 

I feel sorry for you, living in your world of no humour.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

I feel sorry for you, living in your world of no humour.

18 laughs on one post say my world is full of humour so don’t worry about me. Maybe one day you’ll get one too

[badgerx16]

39 minutes ago, Turkish said:

18 laughs on one post say my world is full of humour so don’t worry about me. Maybe one day you’ll get one too

I get plenty from Nic, just don't feel the need to boast about them as it might be seen as taking advantage of the poor chap.

Edited 14 December, 2024 by badgerx16

[Turkish]

3 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I get plenty from Nic, just don't feel the need to boast about them as it might be seen as taking advantage of the poor chap.

Very noble of you. We all have our different reasons for posting, some discuss football, some troll, some be use they’re bored at home or work, some to use it as a platform to show how lovely or clever they are, some because they think they’re solving all the worlds problems one post at a time. In truth it’s a melting pot of mediocrity where only the talented excel 

[east-stand-nic]

10 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Frankly I am sick to death being followed around by people with nothing to do other than have a dig, so yes, occasionally I have a bit of a laugh at their expense. They really need to ask themselves why they read and respond to my posts so frequently if they find them to be such a problem for them. Surely they should just put me on ignore and carry on in blissful ignorance? It is the same people and it has been the same people for years (apart from nic who is a recent addition). Why bother? I would prefer that they didn’t read or respond to my posts but unfortunately there isn’t a reverse ignore function. 

What is particularly sad is that they don’t realise that they all come across as needy stalkers.

Once again zero awareness and double standards. All of what you complain of others doing to you, you do to US. You do it to me all the time, mentioning me in your posts to try and get a rise. So, how about you accept that you are just as bad and you agree to stop it? Are you game to make this place better for all by practicing what you preach?