Brexit - Post Match Reaction

[whelk]

Truss rises up my list of most loathed politicians every time I hear about her.

Pure evil suggesting cancelling cancer treatment on NHS. 

[Guided Missile]

More bad news for the traitors:
 

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French and German factories are “going downhill fast”, economists have warned, as closely watched data showed a deepening recession across the eurozone’s manufacturing sector. German manufacturers suffered steeper declines in new orders, purchasing activity and employment last month, with a key gauge of its activity hitting its lowest level since March. Meanwhile, French factory orders fell at a pace that was only surpassed by months during the pandemic or global financial crisis. As a result, the eurozone’s manufacturing sector continued its long slump last month, pushing its recession to a “gruelling” 26 months. Dr Cyrus de la Rubia, Chief Economist at Hamburg Commercial Bank, said: “Things are going downhill, and fast.”

By contrast, Britain’s factories recorded their best month in two years amid a rise in homegrown demand.The S&P Global UK Manufacturing PMI rose to a 26-month high of 52.5 in August, up from 52.1 in July, meaning the sector has expanded for five out of the last six months.

 

[badgerx16]

"Traitors" ?

Fucking lunatic.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

"Traitors" ?

Fucking lunatic.

Quite, the only traitor on here is supporting Trump when my grandfathers - and his going by the D Day threads - fought facism and totalitarianism and he wants it to make a return. Imagine shitting on your grandparents sacrifices. That’s truly a traitor.

[Guided Missile]

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Germany’s structural challenges are massive. Without cheap Russian gas or nuclear power (or fracking, despite its abundant shale oil, ironically located in AfD-friendly Saxony), it has brutally expensive energy costs, undermining heavy industry. Its auto giants are being destroyed by restrictions on petrol cars. And it has no digital industries to speak of. 

France is in almost as bad shape. Its economy just about eked out a 0.2 per cent expansion in the latest quarter, despite a hoped for “boost” from the billions spent on the Olympics, but the confidence data suggests it will soon be shrinking again. Its credit rating has been cut twice in the last year, and the markets have started to worry about its ballooning debts, pushing up the cost of the 5 per cent or more of GDP that the government has to borrow every year to finance its extravagant welfare system. 

 

 

[whelk]

This cunt really doesn’t understand how forums work

[Guided Missile]

I have no idea about the damage I've caused the UK economy, by voting to leave the EU 🤣

[Guided Missile]

On 27/06/2016 at 14:07, Whitey Grandad said:

As i just said to Wes, you have no idea of the damage that you have caused.

🤣

[Gloucester Saint]

11 minutes ago, whelk said:

This cunt really doesn’t understand how forums work

Nor people, or how to communicate with them. But that’s partly what happens when a lonely old man immerses himself in a bubble of Daily Telegraph and Heritage Foundation clickbait.

[buctootim]

11 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

By contrast, Britain’s factories recorded their best month in two years amid a rise in homegrown demand.The S&P Global UK Manufacturing PMI rose to a 26-month high of 52.5 in August, up from 52.1 in July, meaning the sector has expanded for five out of the last six months.

you forgot to include the rest of that copy and paste paragraph you used without crediting:  

 

Output, new orders and employment all rose but new export orders decreased for the 31st consecutive month. Rob Dobson, director at S&P Global Market Intelligence, said "The trend in export orders a key cause for concern, with new business from overseas having fallen continuously since early in 2022". 

UK manufacturers are experiencing difficulties in securing new contract wins overseas due to weaker demand from Europe, a slowdown in mainland China, freight delays, competitiveness issues, high shipping costs, global conflicts and political uncertainty. 

Many of these issues are also impeding imports which, while benefiting domestic suppliers, is causing supply chain-related production constraints as witnessed by a further marked lengthening of supplier delivery times.

 

 

[badgerx16]

13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Nor people, or how to communicate with them. But that’s partly what happens when a lonely old man immerses himself in a bubble of Daily Telegraph and Heritage Foundation clickbait.

Combined with a few bottles of something cheap and alcoholic.

[CB Fry]

5 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

More bad news for the traitors:
 

 

Remind us next time you bawl your eyes out because someone on here calls you a nasty name 😭💔😔😥

[Guided Missile]

Meanwhile, lefty Starmer begs for an EU reset, while France and Germany rapidly go to the "far right". I'm surprised he hasn't threatened to bang them up for a couple of years. Starmer really can't read the room, apart from his own little unionised and islamic broom closet.

The EU is finished, mate and we got into the lifeboat in the nick of time.

[Gloucester Saint]

I know, let’s tether ourselves to someone intelligent, knowledgeable and factual instead. And coherent. Definitely coherent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66928305

https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/so-crazy-donald-trump-warns-wind-power-could-take-tv-off-air-in-new-anti-green-rant/2-1-1557566?zephr_sso_ott=5HlzLD

Edited September 2 by Gloucester Saint

[badgerx16]

24 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Meanwhile, lefty Starmer begs for an EU reset, while France and Germany rapidly go to the "far right". I'm surprised he hasn't threatened to bang them up for a couple of years. Starmer really can't read the room, apart from his own little unionised and islamic broom closet.

The EU is finished, mate and we got into the lifeboat in the nick of time.

Le Pen is not in power in France, and AfD won't get to run the Thuringian State parliament in eastern Germany, due to proportional representation combined with other parties willing to work together to block Facist Nationalist groups.

Edited September 2 by badgerx16

[Gloucester Saint]

26 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

I'm surprised he hasn't threatened to bang them up for a couple of years

Someone who is getting banged up for a couple of years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles

If her Tory councillor husband ditches her, you might have a lot in common with her politically if you wait around. 

Edited September 2 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Le Pen is not in power in France, and AfD won't get to run the Thurinigian State parliament in eastern Germany, due to proportional representation combined with other parties willing to work together to block Facist Nationalist groups.

Amazing that he’s hasn’t learned from the French election, it was only a few weeks ago.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

🤣

You really are something special. 
 

The fact that you go on constantly about my post shows  how much of a sense of guilt you have about what you’ve done. The more times you repeat it the more it proves my point.

Germany is doing better than the UK and has been for decades. The same goes for France. 

There are plenty of old saying about debating with idiots. Here’s one for tonight,

 

“Argue with idiots, and they drag you to their level & win with experience”

[Tamesaint]

11 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

 

The EU is finished, mate and we got into the lifeboat in the nick of time.

Just like Deutsche Bank??? 

[Guided Missile]

9 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There are plenty of old saying about debating with idiots. Here’s one for tonight,

“Argue with idiots, and they drag you to their level & win with experience”

Here is the graphical representation of the Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) for France, Germany, and the UK over the last 12 months. The red dashed line at the 50 mark represents the threshold between expansion (above 50) and contraction (below 50) in economic activity.

I would be very grateful if you could educate this idiot on where this shows France and Germany doing better than the UK and why these countries are lurching to the right and strict controls over uncontrolled immigration, if the freedom of movement and common currency, both being a requirement of membership of the EU, are so beneficial. 

I'm not holding my breath. All you and your lefty buddies on this site have left, is personal insults and no arguments, much like Starmer and his grotesque cabinet.  Those jackasses can't even define islamophobia or what a woman is.

Just to help Starmer:

1.  Islamophobia is the irrational fear of, hostility towards, or hatred against the religion of Islam or Muslims in general. Islamophobia is primarily a form of religious or cultural bigotry; and people who harbour such sentiments often stereotype Muslims as a geopolitical threat or a source of terrorism.
   Although, I personally see nothing irrational about such fear in the general public.
2. A woman has 2 X chromosomes.
   This one is quite easy.

Go on then Einstein, drag yourself down to my level.

 

Edited September 3 by Guided Missile
Graph

[badgerx16]

So, since the Labour Government came in the UK'S PMI has improved to a 26 month high. Must be doing something right.

[sadoldgit]

14 years of misrule, incompetence and almost criminal levels of negligence by the previous government and not a peep from GM. Starmer has barely had time to change the wallpaper at no 10 and GM is already all over the new government like a cheap suit.

It can’t have been easy for him seeing his party get such a well deserved kicking for so long. He must have been desperate to get the opportunity to do some kicking for himself and he certainly wasn’t to do that to Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss or Sunak, so now it is open season for him.

It will be fun to see the Gammons’ blood levels rise as we seek closer ties with Europe under a government who govern for the country and not the personal pocket liners who only care about themselves.

[Tamesaint]

3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

14 years of misrule, incompetence and almost criminal levels of negligence by the previous government and not a peep from GM. Starmer has barely had time to change the wallpaper at no 10 and GM is already all over the new government like a cheap suit.

It can’t have been easy for him seeing his party get such a well deserved kicking for so long. He must have been desperate to get the opportunity to do some kicking for himself and he certainly wasn’t to do that to Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss or Sunak, so now it is open season for him.

It will be fun to see the Gammons’ blood levels rise as we seek closer ties with Europe under a government who govern for the country and not the personal pocket liners who only care about themselves.

God knows how GM is going to cope when his American hero gets beaten by Harris. 

[badgerx16]

 

[Guided Missile]

Meanwhile Germany are to use the facilities in Rwanda to deport immigrants that the UK paid for. Starmer=Idealogical Cretin

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Meanwhile Germany are to use the facilities in Rwanda to deport immigrants that the UK paid for. Starmer=Idealogical Cretin

No.

The German immigration minister has suggested that the EU might make use of the Rwanda facilities to deport illegal immigrants arriving in the  EU, under the auspices of the United Nations.

Daily Telgraph clickbait feeding their own ideological cretins.

Edited September 5 by badgerx16

[badgerx16]

Anyway, I would have thought GM might have some sort of reaction to Michel Barnier becoming the new French Prime Minister.

[The Kraken]

40 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

No.

The German immigration minister has suggested that the EU might make use of the Rwanda facilities to deport illegal immigrants arriving in the  EU, under the auspices of the United Nations.

Its also stated that EU law would have to change to enable it.

But of course the usual Tory idealogical cretins and Johnny Dimwit think it’s a fait accompli.

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Meanwhile Germany are to use the facilities in Rwanda to deport immigrants that the UK paid for. Starmer=Idealogical Cretin

I wonder what kind of thing an idealogical cretin would cut and paste on a football forum.

[badgerx16]

19 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

 

But of course the usual Tory idealogical cretins and Johnny Dimwit think it’s a fait accompli.

Are you allowed to post FRENCH on here ?

[Gloucester Saint]

54 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Its also stated that EU law would have to change to enable it.

But of course the usual Tory idealogical cretins and Johnny Dimwit think it’s a fait accompli.

And suggested that if it ever happened, it would happen under UN supervision. No way that the ‘no surrender to the IRA’ brigade would have tolerated that.

It would have needed another £10bn to send even a handful of rejected refugee claimants and tax rises to pay for it, which the same bankrupt (bar the Mail) non dom owned tabloid outfits would have screamed about. 

Pity about that £40bn economic black hole that a hard Brexit causes. 

Edited September 5 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89wneepgj3o

[a1ex2001]

On 03/09/2024 at 07:31, Guided Missile said:

Here is the graphical representation of the Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) for France, Germany, and the UK over the last 12 months. The red dashed line at the 50 mark represents the threshold between expansion (above 50) and contraction (below 50) in economic activity.

I would be very grateful if you could educate this idiot on where this shows France and Germany doing better than the UK and why these countries are lurching to the right and strict controls over uncontrolled immigration, if the freedom of movement and common currency, both being a requirement of membership of the EU, are so beneficial. 

I'm not holding my breath. All you and your lefty buddies on this site have left, is personal insults and no arguments, much like Starmer and his grotesque cabinet.  Those jackasses can't even define islamophobia or what a woman is.

Just to help Starmer:

1.  Islamophobia is the irrational fear of, hostility towards, or hatred against the religion of Islam or Muslims in general. Islamophobia is primarily a form of religious or cultural bigotry; and people who harbour such sentiments often stereotype Muslims as a geopolitical threat or a source of terrorism.
   Although, I personally see nothing irrational about such fear in the general public.
2. A woman has 2 X chromosomes.
   This one is quite easy.

Go on then Einstein, drag yourself down to my level.

 

Oooooooh look a Brexit supporter cherry picks one graph that they think shows that the UK economy is out performing some major European ones and posts it to the internet pretending that they have finally found the gotcha tat proves Brexit was a success.  While everyone else groans and points them to the bigger picture where all experts agree that the Brexit decision has had a significant, ongoing and long lasting negative impact on the UK economy, look even the governments own Office for Budgetary Responsibility spells it out and has done consistently since the referendum.

https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

I know you won't listen and you'll be back in another week or two to post yet another amazing Gotcha because we did better than an EU economy at something, sadly some people can't be reached they have wedded themselves so heavily to an idea that they will never accept they were wrong/hoodwinked by rich establishment types.

[Gloucester Saint]

This was on the front page of the ‘I’ today. When it does eventually come in it will push food prices up considerably for most shoppers and more needless Brexit red tape https://www.politico.eu/article/united-kingdom-brexit-border-food-checks-delay-inflation/

[benjii]

Just had a few beers with a Deutsche Bank chap. Seemed to be doing fine.

[Guided Missile]

On 06/09/2024 at 19:11, benjii said:

Just had a few beers with a Deutsche Bank chap. Seemed to be doing fine.

Yeah right:

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The European Central Bank has cut its growth forecasts for the eurozone economy as Germany teeters on the brink of recession. The central bank downwardly revised its projections as it cut interest rates in the single-currency bloc from 3.75pc to 3.5pc.

Mind you, since Labour got in, the UK's growth prospects have screeched to a halt. Surprise, surprise.

[a1ex2001]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Yeah right:

Mind you, since Labour got in, the UK's growth prospects have screeched to a halt. Surprise, surprise.

for something to screech to a halt implies it was going somewhere quickly, UK economic growth has been sloth like for over a decade blaming any recent blip on the current government seems a bit childish when they have only been driving for the blink of an eye

Edited September 12 by a1ex2001

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Yeah right:

Mind you, since Labour got in, the UK's growth prospects have screeched to a halt. Surprise, surprise.

UK growth in July 'flatlined' for the second month in a row. Given that the Tories were in Government up to July 4th, and any change of policy following the GE would hardly have registered by the start of August, I think your statement is more than a little disingenuous.

[Weston Super Saint]

4 hours ago, a1ex2001 said:

for something to screech to a halt implies it was going somewhere quickly, UK economic growth has been sloth like for over a decade blaming any recent blip on the current government seems a bit childish when they have only been driving for the blink of an eye

How long did it take lettuce Liz to crash the economy?

Less than a blink of an eye?

[benjii]

8 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Yeah right:

Mind you, since Labour got in, the UK's growth prospects have screeched to a halt. Surprise, surprise.

Trump Stock doing well! 👌💪👍

[Guided Missile]

6 hours ago, benjii said:

Trump Stock doing well! 👌💪👍

#Deflection
#WrongThread

[Tamesaint]

21 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

#Deflection
#WrongThread

But still very true. Currently at $16. What were they when you wet yourself recommending them? $60? $70? $80?

You really are a prize chump. 

[CB Fry]

We all know GM didn't invest a cent in Trump stock.

[sadoldgit]

More negative Brexit news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd988p00z1no.amp

[Whitey Grandad]

23 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

More negative Brexit news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd988p00z1no.amp

It will take years to restore any freedom to trade with the EU. Years which I don’t have.

[Farmer Saint]

Brexit was so bloody unnecessary - one of the biggest acts of self-harm in history. It's such a shame that those that voted to leave won't ever admit it because they're embarrassed at being conned by Nige and Boris - if they did we could move to re-join. 

Edited September 17 by Farmer Saint

[The Left Back]

32 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Brexit was so bloody unnecessary - one of the biggest acts of self-harm in history. It's such a shame that those that voted to leave won't ever admit it because they're embarrassed at being conned by Nige and Boris - if they did we could move to re-join. 

I heard it described (by an external analyst, not a remainer) as the first and only example of a sovereign nation imposing economic sanctions on itself.

Still at least we took back control eh?

Can't remember the guy's name, but we used to have a lorry driver turn up on here periodically telling us how great Brexit had been for him and his business.  Where did he go?   

[The Kraken]

54 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Brexit was so bloody unnecessary - one of the biggest acts of self-harm in history. It's such a shame that those that voted to leave won't ever admit it because they're embarrassed at being conned by Nige and Boris - if they did we could move to re-join. 

I blame the bloody farmers.

[Weston Super Saint]

20 minutes ago, The Left Back said:

I heard it described (by an external analyst, not a remainer) as the first and only example of a sovereign nation imposing economic sanctions on itself.

Still at least we took back control eh?

Can't remember the guy's name, but we used to have a lorry driver turn up on here periodically telling us how great Brexit had been for him and his business.  Where did he go?   

Retired with loads of money in the bank.

[Farmer Saint]

52 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I blame the bloody farmers.

We did not want to leave!