Brexit - Post Match Reaction

[badgerx16]

 

[AlexLaw76]

One thing is for sure, France have been such reliable neighbours in the recent past.......

[Tamesaint]

 

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

One thing is for sure, France have been such reliable neighbours in the recent past.......

Surprised you haven't gone back far enough to include October 21st 1805 or June 18th 1815 ?

Edited 24 July, 2022 by badgerx16

[saint1977]

23 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

 

Well, we knew the Brexiteers were mad, Owen Paterson confirming it, although the Randox saga showed he was bad as well. May was a buffoon for that speech in 2017 red lining Single Market membership before the negotiations got going properly. Even Cummings and Banks thought it was stupid and extreme. 

Edited 24 July, 2022 by saint1977
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[badgerx16]

UK drivers with disabled parking Blue Badge permits have been warned that they may no longer be valid in some EU countries.

Edited 25 July, 2022 by badgerx16

[Guided Missile]

On 23/07/2022 at 09:55, Whitey Grandad said:

If it weren’t for Brexit there would be no need for more passport points at Dover so yes, it’s Brexit’s fault.

Bollox. There has always been a border between the two countries because the UK has never been in the Schengen Area. 

[buctootim]

1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Bollox. There has always been a border between the two countries because the UK has never been in the Schengen Area. 

He said no need for more, not none. We need more because the process is more involved and therefore slower now. He is correct and you are wrong - as always   

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, buctootim said:

He said no need for more, not none. We need more because the process is more involved and therefore slower now. He is correct and you are wrong - as always   

The Russian version of GM

 

[Guided Missile]

Of course, the UK could solve the border "problem" with the French, by joining the Schengen area. It works for Norway and Iceland. Interestingly Ireland opted out of the Schengen area, preferring to being part of the open-border Common Travel Area with the United Kingdom.

[badgerx16]

15 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Of course, the UK could solve the border "problem" with the French, by joining the Schengen area. It works for Norway and Iceland. Interestingly Ireland opted out of the Schengen area, preferring to being part of the open-border Common Travel Area with the United Kingdom.

Are you feeling OK ?

I only ask because at face value this is a strangely sensible post for you. However, there are additional circumstances pertaining to Iceland and Norway becoming signatories to Schengen, namely their wish, along with EU members Sweden and Finland, to continue their mutual open borders under the Nordic Passport Union, which would otherwise be compromised by the Protocols of Schengen.

Edited 25 July, 2022 by badgerx16

[Warriorsaint]

There is absolutely no denying Brexit has been a costly farce.

Don’t not engage with Brexiters fantasies. If you present them with facts they present you with emotions about sovrinty, taking back control. 

You Won, this is the consequence. We are outside the club. This is the new normal. I just hope the benefits you believe will come to fruition will balance The clusterfxxx it currently is.

[Warriorsaint]

6 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Bollox. There has always been a border between the two countries because the UK has never been in the Schengen Area. 

I’m happy for you, the queuing and all the rest is exactly what you voted for isn’t it?

[suewhistle]

I believe so.. an end to freedom of movement.. of workers, goods, capital and services.

[whelk]

Even the simpletons should be able to understand this. GB News no less

 

[badgerx16]

20 minutes ago, whelk said:

Even the simpletons should be able to understand this. GB News no less

 

Bloody Pinko Remainer journo for the Pinko Remainer Independent doesn't understand that it's all the fault of those cheese eating surrender monkeys. They've nver forgotten Agincourt, Poitiers, and Crecy.

Edited 25 July, 2022 by badgerx16

[Warriorsaint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

Even the simpletons should be able to understand this. GB News no less

 

👏 lets see the simpletons dismiss this account as well from someone who knows travel inside out.

My instinct  is they’ll  simply ignore it and go quiet or go all distraction about the french.

You cannot debate fanatics and fantasists.

[tajjuk]

Someone at the BBC has cottoned on -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/62294901

The article is even called 'Reality Check', Brexit front and centre. 

[Warriorsaint]

Hey Nolan, the Brexit benefits keep coming. Shall we play a game of you name a Brexit win and I’ll name a Brexit cluster fuck and we’ll see who has more shall we?

Ill start with the latest.

 

[badgerx16]

I bet the issue of doubling up regulations won't come into the Tory leadership debate.

[Warriorsaint]

Nope nor, the need to now prove means to have spending money.

Come on Nolan, GM where are your counter benefits/ wins? It’s been 6 years since we voted. 

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said:

Nope nor, the need to now prove means to have spending money.

 

How many of thoise complaining voted to leave the EU ? It seems that people are surprised that other countries also like to express their sovereignty.

Edited 26 July, 2022 by badgerx16

[tajjuk]

15 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

How many of thoise complaining voted to leave the EU ? It seems that people are surprised that other countries also like to express their sovereignty.

IIRC quite a surprising proportion of ex-pats living in places like Spain voted to leave for some baffling reason. 

[buctootim]

On 27/07/2022 at 10:02, tajjuk said:

IIRC quite a surprising proportion of ex-pats living in places like Spain voted to leave for some baffling reason. 

Yep it was bizarre. Seems like they really did buy into the Unicorn carp that if we left we'd keep all benefits but have none of the obligations  

[The Kraken]

On 27/07/2022 at 10:02, tajjuk said:

IIRC quite a surprising proportion of ex-pats living in places like Spain voted to leave for some baffling reason. 

Are there figures for this? Seems like it would be hard to ascertain. Certainly there were some as they made the news by clearly not understanding what vote leave actually meant to them.

By comparison, Gibraltar came in at 96% remain in the referendum.

[buctootim]

25 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Are there figures for this? Seems like it would be hard to ascertain. Certainly there were some as they made the news by clearly not understanding what vote leave actually meant to them.

By comparison, Gibraltar came in at 96% remain in the referendum.

Haven't seen anything definitive. This comes closest  https://www.sussex.ac.uk/broadcast/read/52513

My guess would be that while most expats voted remain in places like France, Germany and Italy there were pockets in places like Benidorm who were Brexity   

 

[saint1977]

On 24/07/2022 at 00:16, badgerx16 said:

 

Interesting article in the FT quoting the CBI on rebuilding supply chain links with the EU as anti China language ramps up in Tory leadership contest and security concerns. Anyone with a brain would rejoin Single Market but everyone in the main two parties is too afraid to upset a few bigots in Stoke https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-62356181

[Warriorsaint]

Hmmm, wonder what caused this? 🤔

 

[Weston Super Saint]

Weird isn't it.  The country is a fucking shithole after Brexit.  The leadership is shit.  Taxes are through the roof.  Bananas are all bent again. Petrol costs a fortune and good luck heating your house this winter.

But, unbelievably, people still want to come here, despite travelling through most of Europe first - maybe BorrierSaint should send his twitter links to Sangatte?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62392898

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Almost 700 migrants crossed the English Channel in 14 small boats on Monday, a record for the year so far.

The Ministry of Defence said 696 migrants made the crossing, topping the previous daily record of 651 in April.

On a side note, Soggy will be wanking into his sock.  He loves it when a migrant crossing record gets broken.

Edited 2 August, 2022 by Weston Super Saint

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Weird isn't it.  The country is a fucking shithole after Brexit.  The leadership is shit.  Taxes are through the roof.  Bananas are all bent again. Petrol costs a fortune and good luck heating your house this winter.

But, unbelievably, people still want to come here, despite travelling through most of Europe first - maybe BorrierSaint should send his twitter links to Sangatte?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62392898

On a side note, Soggy will be wanking into his sock.  He loves it when a migrant crossing record gets broken.

Consider where they have come from - the UK is the Land of Milk and Honey by comparison.  Maybe even a free ticket to Rwanda looks enticing.

( They should stil be applying for asylum in the first "safe" country they reach ).

[Weston Super Saint]

51 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Consider where they have come from - the UK is the Land of Milk and Honey by comparison.  Maybe even a free ticket to Rwanda looks enticing.

( They should stil be applying for asylum in the first "safe" country they reach ).

And yet they've ignored Spain, France, Italy, possibly Austria and Germany on their travels.  Doesn't say much about their milk and honey.

[badgerx16]

23 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And yet they've ignored Spain, France, Italy, possibly Austria and Germany on their travels.  Doesn't say much about their milk and honey.

How much milk and honey would they see packed inside shipping containers as they cross the continent ?

[Weston Super Saint]

17 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

How much milk and honey would they see packed inside shipping containers as they cross the continent ?

Plenty! Apparently all the milk and honey is coming here as well.

[farawaysaint]

UK is still a rich country being richer on a per capita basis than almost every country in Europe. We are however getting poorer in real terms which is annoying as sin.

[badgerx16]

10 minutes ago, farawaysaint said:

UK is still a rich country being richer on a per capita basis than almost every country in Europe. We are however getting poorer in real terms which is annoying as sin.

So we don't have to do anything special to stop the immigrants, just wait until we are less rich than the French.

[spyinthesky]

38 minutes ago, farawaysaint said:

UK is still a rich country being richer on a per capita basis than almost every country in Europe. We are however getting poorer in real terms which is annoying as sin.

Apparently on a per capita basis Uk ranks 18th in Europe with our friends across the Irish Sea ranking 4th!!

[Winnersaint]

I’m not sure why so many people froth at the mouth over immigration boats and all that shit.

[buctootim]

32 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Apparently on a per capita basis Uk ranks 18th in Europe with our friends across the Irish Sea ranking 4th!!

And on a per capita purchasing power basis (PPP) basis. We are behind all of our Northern European peer group (Germany, France,  Austria, Norway etc) and only one place above Malta.  

Fun fact. In the 13 years (1997-2010) Labour were in power, real median incomes rose 30%. In the 12 years the Tories have been in control they havent changed, been totally flat.  

Edited 2 August, 2022 by buctootim

[farawaysaint]

31 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Apparently on a per capita basis Uk ranks 18th in Europe with our friends across the Irish Sea ranking 4th!!

Irish per capita gdp is somewhat inflated by their low population and their tax breaks to invite huge companies.

[buctootim]

5 minutes ago, farawaysaint said:

Irish per capita gdp is somewhat inflated by their low population and their tax breaks to invite huge companies.

Thats true - but average hourly wages show a similar pattern. In Ireland the 2021 average was 27.33 euros ph (c£22 ph at current rates). In the UK it was £13.57 

Edited 2 August, 2022 by buctootim

[farawaysaint]

28 minutes ago, buctootim said:

Thats true - but average hourly wages show a similar pattern. In Ireland the 2021 average was 27.33 euros ph (c£22 ph at current rates). In the UK it was £13.57 

They achieved 25% gdp growth in a year once and all that happened was Apple restructured slightly 😂 It’s mental and when the new EU tax rules come in I imagine their gdp will normalise somewhat. 
 

Malta also financially dopes with their tax regime of course though (5% effective tax to foreign owned companies).

I am surprised however that the minimum wage in Ireland is higher but even considering that Wikipedia (yes I know but I’m lazy) has us as the fourth highest in Europe so not so bad on that front.

[ecuk268]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Plenty! Apparently all the milk and honey is coming here as well.

Don't forget all of that cheese that Liz Truss was so annoyed about.

[a1ex2001]

3 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Consider where they have come from - the UK is the Land of Milk and Honey by comparison.  Maybe even a free ticket to Rwanda looks enticing.

( They should stil be applying for asylum in the first "safe" country they reach ).

No they don’t it says nothing of the sort in the refugee treaties we signed up to.  Otherwise no major country in Europe would receive more than a handful of refugee’s and counties that boarder unstable areas would be crushed under the weight.

Yet another lie spread by our crappy media.

[Tamesaint]

Is there any sign of the Brexit benefits to counteract these Brexit adverse effects?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/03/spiralling-inflation-crops-left-in-the-field-and-travel-chaos-10-reasons-brexit-has-been-disastrous-for-britain?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

[rallyboy]

There have been loads of Brexit dividends if woke, sandal-wearing pinkos are prepared to take off their snowflake blinkers!

Rees-Mogg has just explained how the safety signs in the Dartford Tunnel could soon be in yards instead of metres.

So there, for just a few grand on new signage we have taken back control of our tunnel safety advice! 

[badgerx16]

16 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

There have been loads of Brexit dividends if woke, sandal-wearing pinkos are prepared to take off their snowflake blinkers!

Rees-Mogg has just explained how the safety signs in the Dartford Tunnel could soon be in yards instead of metres.

So there, for just a few grand on new signage we have taken back control of our tunnel safety advice! 

When I read this post I initially thought that it was a joke - I checked, and it isn't. JRM mentioned signs with "funny numbers", meaning Arabic numerals denoting distances in metres. I wonder how many Brexiteers were undecided as to how to vote until they saw those signs. If Truss is looking to save money from the Public purse, abolishing the post of Brexit Benefits Minister should be top of her list.

Edited 3 August, 2022 by badgerx16

[Whitey Grandad]

31 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

There have been loads of Brexit dividends if woke, sandal-wearing pinkos are prepared to take off their snowflake blinkers!

Rees-Mogg has just explained how the safety signs in the Dartford Tunnel could soon be in yards instead of metres.

So there, for just a few grand on new signage we have taken back control of our tunnel safety advice! 

They could have been in yards even without Brexit. Six years and this was all he could think of?

[buctootim]

5 hours ago, rallyboy said:

There have been loads of Brexit dividends if woke, sandal-wearing pinkos are prepared to take off their snowflake blinkers!

Rees-Mogg has just explained how the safety signs in the Dartford Tunnel could soon be in yards instead of metres.

So there, for just a few grand on new signage we have taken back control of our tunnel safety advice! 

Should have changed to furlongs then the whole country could be confused as opposed to just anyone under 50. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

I don’t know why they’re bothering with Rwanda when the solution is staring them right in the face. I’d set up holding centres & use hotels in areas that voted Remain. 

[aintforever]

2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I don’t know why they’re bothering with Rwanda when the solution is staring them right in the face. I’d set up holding centres & use hotels in areas that voted Remain. 

Aren’t a lot of those place that vote, sorry used to vote, Tory?