Brexit - Post Match Reaction

[shurlock]

In my opinion the outcome we are currently experiencing was foreseen by many near the start of this process and it's been largely engineered this way. Why else did all these meetings occur between sturgeon, Blair, major, juncker and a load of others? It's politically impossible to leave abd the EU know it.

 

It was foreseen by many of us but not for the tinfoil hat reasons you think.

[aintforever]

In my opinion the outcome we are currently experiencing was foreseen by many near the start of this process and it's been largely engineered this way. Why else did all these meetings occur between sturgeon, Blair, major, juncker and a load of others? It's politically impossible to leave abd the EU know it.

 

This. May and the EU know Parliament wont have the nuts to go no deal so by offering up a **** deal or no deal option it is bound to end up as a second referendum.

[shurlock]

This. May and the EU know Parliament wont have the nuts to go no deal so by offering up a **** deal or no deal option it is bound to end up as a second referendum.

 

Bingo. Another idiot who’s had his pants pulled down by reality

[Cabbage_Face]

The Rothschilds won't allow us to leave. That i am sure of.

[shurlock]

The Rothschilds won't allow us to leave. That i am sure of.

 

Get with the times Coleslaw. It’s all Soros nowadays.

[Cabbage_Face]

Get with the times Coleslaw. It’s all Soros nowadays.

 

 

Is he also a lizard?

[shurlock]

Is he also a lizard?

 

More alien reptile but perhaps I'm splitting hairs.

[saint1977]

Heseltine nails it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-46428770

 

People from lower incomes were voting against immigration (which will just come from non EU sources now) and the banking crisis and resulting austerity, which wasn't the EU but poor regulation by Maggie, Blair and Brown.

 

Interesting perspectives on that thread cross-party, some predictable, some not.

 

I genuinely think a second vote with proper options, not just In/Out as 2016, is the only way out of this either way. During the process of negotiation over the last two years, far more of the issues and information has come into the public domain. It's reasonable to argue that segments of the electorate at all levels of income and education could be better informed either way unless they've been living underground with no internet, TV, radio or books. Well, unless they've been reading the pop ups from Leave.EU - I think we all agree those are a special kind of spam/clickbait!

[Lord Duckhunter]

Heseltine nails it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-46428770

 

People from lower incomes were voting against immigration (which will just come from non EU sources now) and the banking crisis and resulting austerity, which wasn't the EU but poor regulation by Maggie, Blair and Brown.

 

Interesting perspectives on that thread cross-party, some predictable, some not.

 

I genuinely think a second vote with proper options, not just In/Out as 2016, is the only way out of this either way. During the process of negotiation over the last two years, far more of the issues and information has come into the public domain. It's reasonable to argue that segments of the electorate at all levels of income and education could be better informed either way unless they've been living underground with no internet, TV, radio or books. Well, unless they've been reading the pop ups from Leave.EU - I think we all agree those are a special kind of spam/clickbait!

 

Heseltine needs to look closer to home, not that he will, it’s always someone else’s fault. The simple fact is the birth of Brexit occurred when the Government he played major role in, signed Maastricht. That was the turning point in the relationship between UK and EU.

 

It’s funny how the Heseltines, Campbell’s, Blair’s, Majors etc don’t seem to understand the vote was caused by them. Maastricht , Lisbon. Campbell & Blair’s use of the civil service and experts to lie us into Iraq, set the climate where people don’t believe The BoE or the Treasury. Lack of trust and a series of incompetent lying governments & politicians did more to drive the vote than a hatred of Johnny Foreigner ever did. The fact they still can’t recognise it, is the height of arrogance, and pious superiority.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Nolan]

Heseltine still thinks we'll join the Euro....

[Wes Tender]

Heseltine needs to look closer to home, not that he will, it’s always someone else’s fault. The simple fact is the birth of Brexit occurred when the Government he played major role in, signed Maastricht. That was the turning point in the relationship between UK and EU.

 

It’s funny how the Heseltines, Campbell’s, Blair’s, Majors etc don’t seem to understand the vote was caused by them. Maastricht , Lisbon. Campbell & Blair’s use of the civil service and experts to lie us into Iraq, set the climate where people don’t believe The BoE or the Treasury. Lack of trust and a series of incompetent lying governments & politicians did more to drive the vote than a hatred of Johnny Foreigner ever did. The fact they still can’t recognise it, is the height of arrogance, and pious superiority.

 

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Exactly.

[Guided Missile]

So, when the inevitable occurs and the democratic will of the people is ignored by the Government and we remain in the corrupt and self-serving EU, what course of action will be left, when the largest democratic vote by the British citizens is ignored?

 

For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state. It worked for the French, with Macron backing down in a matter of days. Us Brits? We are slower burning than our surrender monkey cousins on the other side of the channel, but when pushed, we are infinitely tougher and fight for freedom and against tyranny to a man.

We have an advantage over the French, because I believe the police will have some sympathy if the unrest is directed against our dishonest and arrogant Prime Minister. I will leave you with a reminder of what this b!tch said to the Police Federation in 2015:

 

Mrs May told federation members: "I have to tell you that this kind of scaremongering does nobody any good - it doesn't serve you, it doesn't serve the officers you represent, and it doesn't serve the public."She listed warnings by the Police Federation - which represents rank and file officers in England and Wales - over recent years about "demoralised" and "angry" officers, along with claims members of the public were being put in danger.

"The truth is that crime fell in each of those years, it's fallen further since, and our country is safer than it's ever been," she said. "So please - for your sake and for the thousands of police officers who work so hard every day - this crying wolf has to stop."

The federation says officers were once able to build links with their local areas, but are now often only able to concentrate on responding to emergencies or carrying out pre-arranged visits to investigate crimes.

The survey suggests:

Nineteen forces have merged their neighbourhood policing teams with their emergency response teams or other departments Fourteen forces have recently cut, or are planning to cut, numbers in their neighbourhood teams Eight forces have no plans to alter their neighbourhood policing, and two - Cheshire and City of London - have increased numbers

 

"The truth is that crime fell in each of those years, it's fallen further since, and our country is safer than it's ever been," she said.

 

A pathological liar and a PM that could well have precipitated a decade of civil unrest. For Christ sake, someone stop her...

[saint si]

For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state.

 

Project Fear.

[whelk]

The funniest thing about this Brexit is mess is how excitable all the cnts who helped make it are getting.

[shurlock]

So, when the inevitable occurs and the democratic will of the people is ignored by the Government and we remain in the corrupt and self-serving EU, what course of action will be left, when the largest democratic vote by the British citizens is ignored?

 

For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state. It worked for the French, with Macron backing down in a matter of days. Us Brits? We are slower burning than our surrender monkey cousins on the other side of the channel, but when pushed, we are infinitely tougher and fight for freedom and against tyranny to a man.

We have an advantage over the French, because I believe the police will have some sympathy if the unrest is directed against our dishonest and arrogant Prime Minister. I will leave you with a reminder of what this b!tch said to the Police Federation in 2015:

 

 

 

"The truth is that crime fell in each of those years, it's fallen further since, and our country is safer than it's ever been," she said.

 

A pathological liar and a PM that could well have precipitated a decade of civil unrest. For Christ sake, someone stop her...

 

How old are you John? Mid-60s? You couldn’t punch your way out of a wet paper bag pal.

[saint1977]

So, when the inevitable occurs and the democratic will of the people is ignored by the Government and we remain in the corrupt and self-serving EU, what course of action will be left, when the largest democratic vote by the British citizens is ignored?

 

For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state. It worked for the French, with Macron backing down in a matter of days. Us Brits? We are slower burning than our surrender monkey cousins on the other side of the channel, but when pushed, we are infinitely tougher and fight for freedom and against tyranny to a man.

We have an advantage over the French, because I believe the police will have some sympathy if the unrest is directed against our dishonest and arrogant Prime Minister. I will leave you with a reminder of what this b!tch said to the Police Federation in 2015:

 

 

 

"The truth is that crime fell in each of those years, it's fallen further since, and our country is safer than it's ever been," she said.

 

A pathological liar and a PM that could well have precipitated a decade of civil unrest. For Christ sake, someone stop her...

 

LD made some valid points about Blair and Iraq and electoral trust that did have resonance to Brexit but this is too one eyed. May as Home Secretary was awful, no arguments there but the whole reason police numbers and public services in general are in appalling state is Tory and Labour failures to regulate banks, especially self certificated lending, and Cameron’s hamfisted austerity attempts, not understanding basic economics.

 

Moreover, why should any of those who voted Leave trust any of the campaign leaders or funders, such as Banks who is found tonight to have broken yet another law, and Boris and his NHS lies?

 

No time for any of them but would have slightly more trust - marginally - in the likes of Heseltine. At least there is vaguely some social conscience present, unlike JRM, Lawson who want to pick off what’s left to create Singapore light. No thanks.

[Cabbage_Face]

Next few weeks will be the death of democracy. Lovely stuff.

 

 

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[shurlock]

Heseltine needs to look closer to home, not that he will, it’s always someone else’s fault. The simple fact is the birth of Brexit occurred when the Government he played major role in, signed Maastricht. That was the turning point in the relationship between UK and EU.

 

It’s funny how the Heseltines, Campbell’s, Blair’s, Majors etc don’t seem to understand the vote was caused by them. Maastricht , Lisbon. Campbell & Blair’s use of the civil service and experts to lie us into Iraq, set the climate where people don’t believe The BoE or the Treasury. Lack of trust and a series of incompetent lying governments & politicians did more to drive the vote than a hatred of Johnny Foreigner ever did. The fact they still can’t recognise it, is the height of arrogance, and pious superiority.

 

 

 

 

 

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Your failed Thatcherite economic ideology probably did more to drive the vote in parts of the country than anything else.

[Verbal]

In my opinion the outcome we are currently experiencing was foreseen by many near the start of this process and it's been largely engineered this way. Why else did all these meetings occur between sturgeon, Blair, major, juncker and a load of others? It's politically impossible to leave abd the EU know it.

 

You should give up the evidence-free conspiracy theories. It'll only leave you a short hop from the full-blown anti-Semitism and violent fantasies of Tender (plus the now utterly hollow denials).

 

The reason we've now walked into a zombie Brexit is because the Leave campaign sold a contradictory pack of lies - and the biggest lie of all was that the UK could have all the benefits of EU membership without the costs. Allied with an appeal to naked race hatred - which was unleashed onto the streets after the 2016 vote - it is that which has torn this country apart, not the so-called 'treachery' of remainers.

 

So, when the inevitable occurs and the democratic will of the people is ignored by the Government and we remain in the corrupt and self-serving EU, what course of action will be left, when the largest democratic vote by the British citizens is ignored?

 

For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state.

 

Talking of which... Unless you're totally full of s h i t, which I strongly suspect you are, you're advertising your intent to commit serious criminal offences. On top of your deeply sick-minded comment about stringing people up with piano wire, I suggest you search out appropriate treatment before you cause harm to yourself or others.

[Wes Tender]

Talking of which... Unless you're totally full of s h i t, which I strongly suspect you are, you're advertising your intent to commit serious criminal offences.

 

So to your simple mind, just predicting that a failure to deliver Brexit will result in serious civil unrest, equates to advertising an intent to commit serious criminal offences?

 

Your mate also arrived at the same stupid conclusion when I told him that if he spouted the same insulting and patronising responses to somebody's opinions in a pub, he would risk a physical assault. He concluded also that I was threatening him with violence.

 

For two people who like to give the impression that they are intelligent, such a failure in their reasoning flies in the face of that facade.

 

I have to ask again, how old are you?

[Unbelievable Jeff]

So to your simple mind, just predicting that a failure to deliver Brexit will result in serious civil unrest, equates to advertising an intent to commit serious criminal offences?

 

Your mate also arrived at the same stupid conclusion when I told him that if he spouted the same insulting and patronising responses to somebody's opinions in a pub, he would risk a physical assault. He concluded also that I was threatening him with violence.

 

For two people who like to give the impression that they are intelligent, such a failure in their reasoning flies in the face of that facade.

 

I have to ask again, how old are you?

 

He said 'For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state'. That's not an opinion of what may happen. That's his opinion of what should happen.

[LGTL]

So, when the inevitable occurs and the democratic will of the people is ignored by the Government and we remain in the corrupt and self-serving EU, what course of action will be left, when the largest democratic vote by the British citizens is ignored?

 

For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state. It worked for the French, with Macron backing down in a matter of days. Us Brits? We are slower burning than our surrender monkey cousins on the other side of the channel, but when pushed, we are infinitely tougher and fight for freedom and against tyranny to a man.

We have an advantage over the French, because I believe the police will have some sympathy if the unrest is directed against our dishonest and arrogant Prime Minister. I will leave you with a reminder of what this b!tch said to the Police Federation in 2015:

 

 

 

"The truth is that crime fell in each of those years, it's fallen further since, and our country is safer than it's ever been," she said.

 

A pathological liar and a PM that could well have precipitated a decade of civil unrest. For Christ sake, someone stop her...

 

Complete and utter snowflake.

[Guided Missile]

He said 'For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state'. That's not an opinion of what may happen. That's his opinion of what should happen.

When democracy is threatened in countries like Kuwait, Iraq and Libya, our socialist government didn't hesitate to use extreme violence against these states. What happens when our democracy is threatened by our own government?

Riots and violence seems to be working in France and I don't see any yellow jackets being arrested for "serious criminal offences", just anti-democratic Macron giving them everything they want.

Mark my words, if Brexit is mishandled, 17.4 million voters will be p!$$ed off and some of them will make Paris look like a picnic...

[Wes Tender]

He said 'For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state'. That's not an opinion of what may happen. That's his opinion of what should happen.

 

So add yourself to the growing list of supposedly intelligent people who can't comprehend a simple statement of opinion.

[Wes Tender]

Former Tory minister Tim Loughton's analogy of The vicar's daughter's Brexit deal:

 

“It is like buying a house that you have only seen from the outside. You hand over the full asking price at the outset, upfront. You sign all the legal transaction documents without even agreeing on the fixtures, fittings and completion date, or indeed knowing whether the immigration status of your family allows you to live there. Only after that do you commission a survey, the results of which you do not share with your family despite eventually finding out that the neighbours have an unlimited right of way across your garden and unfettered access to your garden pond - and you have no indication of when you will be able to move in. Who in their right mind would agree to such a deal on buying a house, let alone on such an important issue as the future constitutional basis of our whole country?”

[Unbelievable Jeff]

When democracy is threatened in countries like Kuwait, Iraq and Libya, our socialist government didn't hesitate to use extreme violence against these states. What happens when our democracy is threatened by our own government?

Riots and violence seems to be working in France and I don't see any yellow jackets being arrested for "serious criminal offences", just anti-democratic Macron giving them everything they want.

Mark my words, if Brexit is mishandled, 17.4 million voters will be p!$$ed off and some of them will make Paris look like a picnic...

 

Good for them. Hopefully they'll end up in prison or dead then.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

So add yourself to the growing list of supposedly intelligent people who can't comprehend a simple statement of opinion.

 

Right, let's try this another way.

 

"For me, it will be time for someone should stab Wes Tender in the face".

 

How do you interpret that sentence?

[Wes Tender]

Right, let's try this another way.

 

"For me, it will be time for someone should stab Wes Tender in the face".

 

How do you interpret that sentence?

 

I'll ignore the puerility of the reply and the poor use of English and treat it on its dubious merits. It doesn't say that you would do it, does it? Unless you are suggesting that the "someone" would be you? Is that what you would be suggesting?

[Verbal]

So add yourself to the growing list of supposedly intelligent people who can't comprehend a simple statement of opinion.

 

It's a mark of how far you've fallen since 2016 - from a pointless but harmless pensioner to a zealot so determined to defend someone on your own side that you skate over his language straight out of the playbook of a political psychopath - that you attack people who complain about the violence of Brexiter language.

 

Similarly, your repeated doubling down on the anti-Semitic post you endorsed, and your bizarre contention that you don't fantasise about another poster on here getting his head beaten to a pulp, while writing again that you do fantasise about exactly that, is evidence of a breathtaking dogma.

 

The only thing that makes you worthy of comment at all is that your rhetorical violence is all too common among 'nativist' Brexiters.

 

And this age thing? It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the question, I'm not going on a date with you. Farshteyn?

[shurlock]

Former Tory minister Tim Loughton's analogy of The vicar's daughter's Brexit deal:

 

“It is like buying a house that you have only seen from the outside. You hand over the full asking price at the outset, upfront. You sign all the legal transaction documents without even agreeing on the fixtures, fittings and completion date, or indeed knowing whether the immigration status of your family allows you to live there. Only after that do you commission a survey, the results of which you do not share with your family despite eventually finding out that the neighbours have an unlimited right of way across your garden and unfettered access to your garden pond - and you have no indication of when you will be able to move in. Who in their right mind would agree to such a deal on buying a house, let alone on such an important issue as the future constitutional basis of our whole country?”

 

2/10

 

Not as good as analogy that the promised deal was like agreeing to buy a property on the basis of a glossy prospectus; only to find out after completion of the survey, that property is not a mansion but a complete sh*thole.

Edited 6 December, 2018 by shurlock

[OldNick]

 

"For me, it will be time for someone should stab Wes Tender in the face".

 

very bad taste UJ

[shurlock]

I'll ignore the puerility of the reply and the poor use of English and treat it on its dubious merits. It doesn't say that you would do it, does it? Unless you are suggesting that the "someone" would be you? Is that what you would be suggesting?

 

Les - I don't see you've called out GM anywhere?

[Wes Tender]

It's a mark of how far you've fallen since 2016 - from a pointless but harmless pensioner to a zealot so determined to defend someone on your own side that you skate over his language straight out of the playbook of a political psychopath - that you attack people who complain about the violence of Brexiter language.

 

Similarly, your repeated doubling down on the anti-Semitic post you endorsed, and your bizarre contention that you don't fantasise about another poster on here getting his head beaten to a pulp, while writing again that you do fantasise about exactly that, is evidence of a breathtaking dogma.

 

The only thing that makes you worthy of comment at all is that your rhetorical violence is all too common among 'nativist' Brexiters.

 

And this age thing? It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the question, I'm not going on a date with you. Farshteyn?

 

I'll just have to have a reasoned guess at both your mental and actual ages based on the immaturity you show in your posts.

 

Count me in with all the other "zealots" who voted by a majority to leave the EU in the biggest plebiscite ever undertaken in our history and who will feel betrayed and angry if the decision was overturned by our elected government and MPs.

 

As for the claptrap that you have spouted in the rest of your post, it really is beneath contempt.

[Wes Tender]

2/10

 

Not as good as analogy that the promised deal was like agreeing to buy a property on the basis of a glossy prospectus; only to find out after completion of the survey, that property is not a mansion but a complete sh*thole.

 

Are you talking about continued membership of the EU? It seems to fit in very well with what we were sold by Grocer Heath and what it has since turned out to be.

[shurlock]

Are you talking about continued membership of the EU? It seems to fit in very well with what we were sold by Grocer Heath and what it has since turned out to be.

 

No we were told we could have the exact same benefits of EU membership outside the EU.

 

Where's the good old Les who used to claim we held all the cards?

[Guided Missile]

Are you talking about continued membership of the EU? It seems to fit in very well with what we were sold by Grocer Heath and what it has since turned out to be.

Don't worry about this lot, Wes. The truth is that the EU are on the run and if we get a leader that realises that, we will get whatever deal we want. The chickens are coming home to roost for the faceless bureaucrats in the EU, from Italy, France, Bulgaria, Hungary and Germany. Their offer to extend Article 50, to avoid a no deal, shows they are sh!tt!ng one and I would be delighted if we gave them the no deal that frightens them so much. #dominoeffect

[Wes Tender]

No we were told we could have the exact same benefits of EU membership outside the EU.

 

Where's the good old Les who used to claim we held all the cards?

 

My position has been constant throughout. I would prefer a FTA with the EU, but if an acceptable deal was not forthcoming, I would be perfectly happy leaving under WTO terms.

[shurlock]

My position has been constant throughout. I would prefer a FTA with the EU, but if an acceptable deal was not forthcoming, I would be perfectly happy leaving under WTO terms.

 

Glad you agree that the exact same benefits statement was complete horse****. Shame many people bought into these types of myth when they voted in 2016.

[shurlock]

Don't worry about this lot, Wes. The truth is that the EU are on the run and if we get a leader that realises that, we will get whatever deal we want. The chickens are coming home to roost for the faceless bureaucrats in the EU, from Italy, France, Bulgaria, Hungary and Germany. Their offer to extend Article 50, to avoid a no deal, shows they are sh!tt!ng one and I would be delighted if we gave them the no deal that frightens them so much. #dominoeffect

 

JJ, you and your backwater business have more chance of toppling Monsanto than the UK getting whatever deal it wants.

[Wes Tender]

Glad you agree that the exact same benefits statement was complete horse****. Shame many people bought into these types of myth when they voted in 2016.

 

Where did I say that I agreed with anybody who claimed that the "exact same benefits" were available on leaving the EU? Leaving the EU gives us better benefits than remaining in. It is only charlatans like the idiot Starmer who could possibly believe that he could hoodwink the electorate by making Labour's support for Brexit dependent on us achieving the exact same benefits as we enjoy as members. We might lose some trade with the EU, but can replace it with trade deals with the faster developing rest of the World. But the other benefits of returning to being an independent sovereign nation once more far outweigh any small short term trade downside, don't they?

[Verbal]

Where did I say that I agreed with anybody who claimed that the "exact same benefits" were available on leaving the EU? Leaving the EU gives us better benefits than remaining in. It is only charlatans like the idiot Starmer who could possibly believe that he could hoodwink the electorate by making Labour's support for Brexit dependent on us achieving the exact same benefits as we enjoy as members. We might lose some trade with the EU, but can replace it with trade deals with the faster developing rest of the World. But the other benefits of returning to being an independent sovereign nation once more far outweigh any small short term trade downside, don't they?

 

So you over-agreed with the liars, then. But not even the most zealous of Brexiters in parliament say that things will be better. Now the line is that things will be worse but that's what we wanted all along. For you, presumably it's all sunlit uplands and 72 virgins.

 

And 'sovereignty', which you have no inkling about, is just a cover for your 'nativism'. No wonder you endorse anti-Semites and refuse to back down.

 

On other matters, I take it you also endorse JJ's idea about stringing people up with piano wire, since you won't say a single word about it.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

I'll ignore the puerility of the reply and the poor use of English and treat it on its dubious merits. It doesn't say that you would do it, does it? Unless you are suggesting that the "someone" would be you? Is that what you would be suggesting?

 

I never said it was him that would do it - read what I wrote again. It's his opinion of what should happen - ie, incitement.

 

Give your head a wobble.

[shurlock]

Where did I say that I agreed with anybody who claimed that the "exact same benefits" were available on leaving the EU? Leaving the EU gives us better benefits than remaining in. It is only charlatans like the idiot Starmer who could possibly believe that he could hoodwink the electorate by making Labour's support for Brexit dependent on us achieving the exact same benefits as we enjoy as members. We might lose some trade with the EU, but can replace it with trade deals with the faster developing rest of the World. But the other benefits of returning to being an independent sovereign nation once more far outweigh any small short term trade downside, don't they?

 

What do you think of David Davis?

[Unbelievable Jeff]

very bad taste UJ

 

Why?

[shurlock]

So you over-agreed with the liars, then. But not even the most zealous of Brexiters in parliament say that things will be better. Now the line is that things will be worse but that's what we wanted all along. For you, presumably it's all sunlit uplands and 72 virgins.

 

And 'sovereignty', which you have no inkling about, is just a cover for your 'nativism'. No wonder you endorse anti-Semites and refuse to back down.

 

On other matters, I take it you also endorse JJ's idea about stringing people up with piano wire, since you won't say a single word about it.

 

And punching their face in.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

And punching their face in.

 

To be fair to Wes, he does have some balls (or a massive lack of self-awareness) to come back here day after day to get pwned

[Wes Tender]

So you over-agreed with the liars, then. But not even the most zealous of Brexiters in parliament say that things will be better. Now the line is that things will be worse but that's what we wanted all along. For you, presumably it's all sunlit uplands and 72 virgins.

 

And 'sovereignty', which you have no inkling about, is just a cover for your 'nativism'. No wonder you endorse anti-Semites and refuse to back down.

 

On other matters, I take it you also endorse JJ's idea about stringing people up with piano wire, since you won't say a single word about it.

 

Oh, do grow up

[Wes Tender]

I never said it was him that would do it - read what I wrote again. It's his opinion of what should happen - ie, incitement.

 

Give your head a wobble.

 

You really do yourself no favours. Is English your second language perhaps? It wasn't his opinion of what should happen. It was what could or might happen.

[shurlock]

To be fair to Wes, he does have some balls (or a massive lack of self-awareness) to come back here day after day to get pwned

 

Its unfortunate to see a grown man struggle so much.

 

Still, at least we've made a bit of progress today. Les has accepted that David Davis, a posterboy for headbangers like him, is a charlatan, an idiot and responsible for hoodwinking the public.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

You really do yourself no favours. Is English your second language perhaps? It wasn't his opinion of what should happen. It was what could or might happen.

 

No, it's not - that's where you're misunderstanding. If that is what he means (and he hasn't said), then the phraseology used is incorrect. It would say "For me, this would result in" or something along those lines.

 

Read what he said, again:

 

'For me, it will be time for riots and violence against the state'.

 

Using that phraseology, that is his opinion on what should happen. If he meant it is what might happen, then the English used is incorrect. As an example, here is GM telling us about what 'might' happen: 'Mark my words, if Brexit is mishandled, 17.4 million voters will be p!$$ed off and some of them will make Paris look like a picnic...'