SaintsIRL Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Paul Joyce of the Express, on of the more reliable journos for them lot says that Bertrand is being discussed as an alternative to Ben Chilwell, among other names. Seems odd as the other day I read that they were looking for a young left back to mould, obviously Ryan doesn't fit that. However Joyce did mention that Ryan has a year left on his deal (I didn't realise that!), so perhaps he's implying they see him as an opportunity difficult to turn down. Ugh if he goes, what's to stop van Djik going if Koeman comes knocking for him when Stones heads off to City? Who will we have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 #WeMeltOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He's lying....Bertrand signed a 4 and half year deal in Jan 2015....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2937145/Southampton-sign-Ryan-Bertrand-10m-Chelsea-four-half-year-deal.html Runs out in June 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Paul Joyce of the Express, on of the more reliable journos for them lot says that Bertrand is being discussed as an alternative to Ben Chilwell, among other names. Seems odd as the other day I read that they were looking for a young left back to mould, obviously Ryan doesn't fit that. However Joyce did mention that Ryan has a year left on his deal (I didn't realise that!), so perhaps he's implying they see him as an opportunity difficult to turn down. Ugh if he goes, what's to stop van Djik going if Koeman comes knocking for him when Stones heads off to City? Who will we have left? He's got 3 years left on his deal I thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsIRL Posted 27 June, 2016 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Ah my mate who is a Liverpool fan said he doubted the link. Says he thinks the journos are name dropping Bertrand and Robertson as Liverpool are feinting moving on from Chilwell. He says they did a similar thing last summer with Benteke; claiming they were looking at Rondon and Bacca is a deal could be done. So you saying the information is incorrect, makes his theory more plausible. Thank god. Don't think I could take losing Bertrand, he's probably the player I'd want to lose least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Would Targett be ready to step up if called upon? Would be consistent with going back to promoting youth, and with him, JWP and Redmond we have three from the England under 21 in our starting (maybe) line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Guan or K.Billy said Klopp likes him some time ago on here. The sooner they get a left back on board, the happier I'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He will be next summers £20mil sale from us - along with VVD for £40m. Losing mane does seem rough but surely he isn't irreplaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He will be next summers £20mil sale from us - along with VVD for £40m. Losing mane does seem rough but surely he isn't irreplaceable. Not a bad prediction but not VVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He's about to turn 27, so he's probably at peak value right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He'd never move that far from London. His contract also runs out in 2019. Sure people would have said the same about Clyney, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Really well informed about his contract then, still wouldn't surprise me, nothing involving Liverpool buying our players does, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 When we signed him in 2014 I'm sure Liverpool wanted him then but Chelsea wouldn't allow him to move their on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Paul Joyce of the Express, on of the more reliable journos for them lot says that Bertrand is being discussed as an alternative to Ben Chilwell, among other names. Seems odd as the other day I read that they were looking for a young left back to mould, obviously Ryan doesn't fit that. However Joyce did mention that Ryan has a year left on his deal (I didn't realise that!), so perhaps he's implying they see him as an opportunity difficult to turn down. Ugh if he goes, what's to stop van Djik going if Koeman comes knocking for him when Stones heads off to City? Who will we have left? The next group to come in who you've probably never heard of, but ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 You'd hope his experiences at a big club would make him wary of leaving now he finally has first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 I think Liverpool should just sell up and buy saints lock stock and barrel every ****ing season we lose our players to the bin dippers at some point we need to tell them to do one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 I would be amazed if Liverpool didn't fancy Bertrand, but the three years remaining on his contract means he would be very expensive indeed. One or possibly two years remaining and I suspect a bid would have already gone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Guan or K.Billy said Klopp likes him some time ago on here. The sooner they get a left back on board, the happier I'll be. Yep, Klopp hasn't being shy about letting everyone know just how much he admires our Berty. Though this very inaccurate piece has a whiff of the hypothetical about it, perhaps just a feeler from liverpool He'd never move that far from London. His contract also runs out in 2019. 2hrs 13 minutes express train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Would Targett be ready to step up if called upon? Would be consistent with going back to promoting youth, and with him, JWP and Redmond we have three from the England under 21 in our starting (maybe) line up. He can fill a hole, he did that last season, but in terms of offering similar levels of performance or even the prospect of similar levels, I would say he is absolutely miles off. For me he struggled big style when played at left back. The difference when Ryan came back was clear for all to see. When Targett could hide at left wing back he was OK, he has a good first touch, composure and a half decent cross on him, but in flat back four his lack of pace is a major issue. Slow fullbacks get murdered and that's what all the best sides have players with pace in that position. That's half the reason we have done so well in recent times with Clyne and Bertrand never being exposed by pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 Ugh if he goes, what's to stop van Djik going if Koeman comes knocking for him when Stones heads off to City? Who will we have left? Is Ryan Bertrand in charge of keeping Van Dijk at the club then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 He can fill a hole, he did that last season, but in terms of offering similar levels of performance or even the prospect of similar levels, I would say he is absolutely miles off. For me he struggled big style when played at left back. The difference when Ryan came back was clear for all to see. When Targett could hide at left wing back he was OK, he has a good first touch, composure and a half decent cross on him, but in flat back four his lack of pace is a major issue. Slow fullbacks get murdered and that's what all the best sides have players with pace in that position. That's half the reason we have done so well in recent times with Clyne and Bertrand never being exposed by pace. Pretty spot on. The difference when Bertrand came back from injury and replaced Targett was huge. Bertrand pacy and position ally very aware. Targett slow and unaware. Can learn awareness, can't get pace. Everton showed what pace would do to him when they smashed us at home . His move to left midfield was okay, good crosser of the ball, didn't do too badly. But not as good as Tadic in that position either. This for me is the issue with some obsessive fans about promoting youth - it only works if you are improving the team by doing it, and from what I have seen, none of our youth currently would improve any position in our first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 I think Liverpool should just sell up and buy saints lock stock and barrel every ****ing season we lose our players to the bin dippers at some point we need to tell them to do one I think we see them as a steady source of income? If they get in the champions league and look at elsewhere at the real quality players who would buy our players? Everton may step in the short term depending on their success, maybe West Ham? The big four Only come to us if we have someone of real quality which we are unlikely to get...Spurs maybe? It's got to be a worry for the current strategy? ( I am not trying to be flippant just buying into the dream of our business model! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 And so it begins....again...not sure the article is factually correct in all aspects.....http://www.90min.com/posts/3384708-liverpool-reportedly-consider-yet-another-approach-for-a-southampton-player-in-ryan-bertrand?ref=1&team=southampton&utm_campaign=Southampton&utm_medium=fan_pages&utm_source=facebook.com.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Would be absolutely fuming if Bertrand went. No need whatsoever to sell and with the money we've just made I imagine we'll already end up having one of the lowest spends in the league this summer. Targett is no where near ready to be starting every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 And so it begins....again...not sure the article is factually correct in all aspects.....http://www.90min.com/posts/3384708-liverpool-reportedly-consider-yet-another-approach-for-a-southampton-player-in-ryan-bertrand?ref=1&team=southampton&utm_campaign=Southampton&utm_medium=fan_pages&utm_source=facebook.com.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What is that article going on about, he has 3 years left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 What is that article going on about, he has 3 years left on his contract. It's based on that Express report, so the info the Express has got wrong has been rehashed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 That article is complete bullcrap. Come one guys and gals. Les Reed may be selling the club down the river again this summer but its only ambition we lack. We aren't gutting the whole squad again, just enough to line a few pockets why we stay top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 I think I'll be a Sports Journalist.I don't have to know anything about football as all I have to do is make up stories with no substance whatsoever about any player I wish (I'll buy a Pannini book of stickers to find out who's who) and no doubt some idiot will believe it and say 'Haspers a reliable source' because he knows all the players names in the English Premier League.⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️'S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 I think I'll be a Sports Journalist.I don't have to know anything about football as all I have to do is make up stories with no substance whatsoever about any player I wish (I'll buy a Pannini book of stickers to find out who's who) and no doubt some idiot will believe it and say 'Haspers a reliable source' because he knows all the players names in the English Premier League.⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️'S i remember when this was said the day the reports came out about Caulker going to liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 i remember when this was said the day the reports came out about Caulker going to liverpool Yes but that was because we couldn't believe that they would want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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