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doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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Going just by the feeds, Long seems very quiet. Is this true or just the way the feeds work? Same thing from last match too.

 

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I knew as soon as a wrote that he would do something and make me sound dumb.

saint lard

saint lard

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I'm watching Tadic play through the middle... Terrible.

Waste of his talent.

Redmond looks great.

So lacking in the final 3rd.

Long finished nicely.

No sodding width on the left.

 

 

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trousers

trousers

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At the game. Not as much intensity from Saints as the Espanyol game. Redmond quieter in this game too although had a good effort that hit the wood work. Nice composed finish by Long for the goal. Looks like Fonte could be coming on at half time

Monk

Monk

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Agree, although obviously hope he is great as no 10! Tadic seems to enjoy being 1-on-1 with a defender, turning them inside out and beating them. You have chance to do that as a winger but not so much centrally.

 

See now this I disagree with. Tadic is very good at beating a defender (unbalancing them) in a one versus one but doesn't get past a player which is what you want wingers to.

 

Tadic should be fine as a 10, only difference you'll see now is perhaps more shooting or inside channel through balls.

Monk

Monk

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Can Redmond play the #10 instead of Tadic?

 

This is what some senior staff at England think his best role is.

The Cat

The Cat

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Tadic is doing fine. Our midfield looks a lot more fluid in this formation. Forster has had nothing to do. Nice to see Cedric galloping up and down the right, once Bertrand is back we'll look more balanced.

Hamilton Saint

Hamilton Saint

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At the game. Not as much intensity from Saints as the Espanyol game. Redmond quieter in this game too although had a good effort that hit the wood work. Nice composed finish by Long for the goal. Looks like Fonte could be coming on at half time

 

Better if he came on after HT. ;)

mrfahaji

mrfahaji

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See now this I disagree with. Tadic is very good at beating a defender (unbalancing them) in a one versus one but doesn't get past a player which is what you want wingers to.

 

Tadic should be fine as a 10, only difference you'll see now is perhaps more shooting or inside channel through balls.

 

Maybe he doesn't "beat them" in terms of pace, but he usually finds enough space to put a decent cross in, I am often surprised how often he manages it - this is more what I meant, if he gets a ball into the box, surely he has done what he needs to, even if he hasn't raced clear of the defender.

Hobbit73

Hobbit73

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First time on St Mary's, made an effort from Down Under to see Saints play... Nice weather... At this stage, I wouldn't comment too much about the style of play, but I've seen better...

 

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doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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So no losses in pre-season and what? 2 goals conceded and 10 goals scored in five games. Can't read to much into pre-season but that has to be good for the teams confidence going into our first league match.

Ultimatt

Ultimatt

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So no losses in pre-season and what? 2 goals conceded and 10 goals scored in five games. Can't read to much into pre-season but that has to be good for the teams confidence going into our first league match.

 

Decent for a new manager with a new style of play.

Batman

Batman

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I'm forgetful at 2am but had the quick edit :p

 

fair points made. difficult to get excited about pre season results. but looks good so far

Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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So my thoughts again are a bit concerned that this diamond isn't suiting anyone but Tadic. Long relied on a quick pass he only got one and scored.

Not sure but players don't look happy no smiles at all although all celebrated goal.

Could be just me reading too much into it. Sjojberg and Romeu were good and the Juanmi replacement Redmond looks lively and creative.

I don't see the point in Charlie Austin getting the ball deep wide on half way line it's just a waste.

Bilbao technically good but I could have played in goal and Fraser didn't make a save.

Pied is Paul Telfer mk2 and is ok and did a job.

We have too many of same style and standard JWP,Reed, Clasie and Davis although the latter ahead of them but none of the other three do enough for a top 10 team for me.

We look solid but are 2 quality players away yet.

Ditch this diamond and play 4 4 fcking 2 :-) Tadic and Redmond wide Long and Austin up front Sjobjerg and Romeu central

 

 

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saint77

saint77

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So my thoughts again are a bit concerned that this diamond isn't suiting anyone but Tadic. Long relied on a quick pass he only got one and scored.

Not sure but players don't look happy no smiles at all although all celebrated goal.

Could be just me reading too much into it. Sjojberg and Romeu were good and the Juanmi replacement Redmond looks lively and creative.

I don't see the point in Charlie Austin getting the ball deep wide on half way line it's just a waste.

 

Bilbao technically good but I could have played in goal and Fraser didn't make a save.

Pied is Paul Telfer mk2 and is ok and did a job.

We have too many of same style and standard JWP,Reed, Clasie and Davis although the latter ahead of them but none of the other three do enough for a top 10 team for me.

We look solid but are 2 quality players away yet.

Ditch this diamond and play 4 4 fcking 2 :-) Tadic and Redmond wide Long and Austin up front Sjobjerg and Romeu central

 

 

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Exactly what my pal and I said walking out of the ground

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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Can't read anything into it. All teams are at different stages of fitness and we've played some poor teams anyway. Really don't care about the results yet. We know we have enough to beat watford but we'll need to create a bit more

 

err yeah I said that. Still better than losing all our pre-season games conceding 10 and scoring 2.....

Dr. Kucho

Dr. Kucho

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So my thoughts again are a bit concerned that this diamond isn't suiting anyone but Tadic. Long relied on a quick pass he only got one and scored.

Not sure but players don't look happy no smiles at all although all celebrated goal.

Could be just me reading too much into it. Sjojberg and Romeu were good and the Juanmi replacement Redmond looks lively and creative.

I don't see the point in Charlie Austin getting the ball deep wide on half way line it's just a waste.

Bilbao technically good but I could have played in goal and Fraser didn't make a save.

Pied is Paul Telfer mk2 and is ok and did a job.

We have too many of same style and standard JWP,Reed, Clasie and Davis although the latter ahead of them but none of the other three do enough for a top 10 team for me.

We look solid but are 2 quality players away yet.

Ditch this diamond and play 4 4 fcking 2 :-) Tadic and Redmond wide Long and Austin up front Sjobjerg and Romeu central

 

 

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Didnt we play 4-2-3-1 last season? wouldnt that suit the players more?

 

Something like,

 

Forster

Cedric - Fonte - Van Dijk- Bertrand

Hjobjerg - Romeu

Redmond - Davis - Tadic

Long

 

Hjobjerg and Romeu the new Wanyama/Schneiderlin.

 

On another thought, what about Clasie this season? Clearly a Koeman buy and with Davis, JWP and Reed who play pretty similair to him, do you see a future for

him at the club?

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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Didnt we play 4-2-3-1 last season? wouldnt that suit the players more?

 

Something like,

 

Forster

Cedric - Fonte - Van Dijk- Bertrand

Hjobjerg - Romeu

Redmond - Davis - Tadic

Long

 

Hjobjerg and Romeu the new Wanyama/Schneiderlin.

 

On another thought, what about Clasie this season? Clearly a Koeman buy and with Davis, JWP and Reed who play pretty similair to him, do you see a future for

him at the club?

 

I think we played several formations last season one of Koeman's strength was that he was happy to change the game plan to get a result.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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So my thoughts again are a bit concerned that this diamond isn't suiting anyone but Tadic. Long relied on a quick pass he only got one and scored.

Not sure but players don't look happy no smiles at all although all celebrated goal.

Could be just me reading too much into it. Sjojberg and Romeu were good and the Juanmi replacement Redmond looks lively and creative.

I don't see the point in Charlie Austin getting the ball deep wide on half way line it's just a waste.

Bilbao technically good but I could have played in goal and Fraser didn't make a save.

Pied is Paul Telfer mk2 and is ok and did a job.

We have too many of same style and standard JWP,Reed, Clasie and Davis although the latter ahead of them but none of the other three do enough for a top 10 team for me.

We look solid but are 2 quality players away yet.

Ditch this diamond and play 4 4 fcking 2 :-) Tadic and Redmond wide Long and Austin up front Sjobjerg and Romeu central

 

 

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couldnt agree more, absolutely toothless in attack, not sure if it's the personnel or the system though.

Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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Didnt we play 4-2-3-1 last season? wouldnt that suit the players more?

 

Something like,

 

Forster

Cedric - Fonte - Van Dijk- Bertrand

Hjobjerg - Romeu

Redmond - Davis - Tadic

Long

 

Hjobjerg and Romeu the new Wanyama/Schneiderlin.

 

On another thought, what about Clasie this season? Clearly a Koeman buy and with Davis, JWP and Reed who play pretty similair to him, do you see a future for

him at the club?

 

I think 4 2 3 1 would suit more players than this current formation does.

As for Clasie someone said he hoped Everton came in for him and I can't argue with that. I am so wanting him to do well but although he reads it well and can pass locally so can Reed and JWP who can take a set piece yet am struggling to see what he offers to start him.

 

 

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Shroppie

Shroppie

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I think we played several formations last season one of Koeman's strength was that he was happy to change the game plan to get a result.

I'd agree with that. Hope Pool isn't too wedded to one formation. Koeman's strength was not just using same same when things weren't working. I remember going to 3 5 2, for example.

 

Could also switch mid game.

 

Like many others, I think we need a target man to give us another option. Just seen Monolo Gabiadini suggested from Napoli , but no idea really.

 

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Batman

Batman

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I think 4 2 3 1 would suit more players than this current formation does.

As for Clasie someone said he hoped Everton came in for him and I can't argue with that. I am so wanting him to do well but although he reads it well and can pass locally so can Reed and JWP who can take a set piece yet am struggling to see what he offers to start him.

 

 

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I hope we are not going to be this seasons (LvG's) man united.

all about holding the ball and blunt up top for playing players out of their natural position.

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