The New, New Manager Thread

[Mowgli]

So much for Everton's £100M then.....

 

http://www.footballinsider247.com/liverpool-sound-out-premier-league-star-about-summer-deal/?

 

They really are pretty stupid to put that £100m transfer budget into the public arena. Every player they show an interest in will be marked up accordingly. The secret of good negotiation is never ever show your hand too early.

[Pamplemousse]

Is is very true. The ONLY person I can remember who thought it was a blinding piece of business was Guillem Balague.

 

I think most of the unhappiness was about the manner of his arrival.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Yes I would. It's not his fault that the idiots with money there pay £50m for Sterling.

 

Check what he did with Villareal and Malaga.

 

I'm not really interested in what achieved years ago. Look at how his team spent half of last season 'on the beach' and how he struggled to get a performance out if them - at least in the PL.

[Bewildered]

Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV

 

Brera Calcio

Naţional Bucureşti

Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results)

Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double)

Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east)

Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months)

Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0

Catania (Did OK, but no more than that)

Palermo (sacked for poor results)

Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results)

Al Nasr SC

Sampdoria (sacked for poor results)

Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results)

 

If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best.

[saint77]

Have a horrible gut feeling we are struggling to get someone half decent hope I'm wrong

[CB Fry]

Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV

 

Brera Calcio

Naţional Bucureşti

Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results)

Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double)

Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east)

Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months)

Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0

Catania (Did OK, but no more than that)

Palermo (sacked for poor results)

Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results)

Al Nasr SC

Sampdoria (sacked for poor results)

Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results)

 

If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best.

They'll be a hipster along in a minute babbling on about Pochettino and how-will-we-ever-know-how-good-he-is-at-this-level-if-he-never-gets-a-chance.

[CB Fry]

In other news, Hoara Borselli.

[Wade Garrett]

I'm not really interested in what achieved years ago. Look at how his team spent half of last season 'on the beach' and how he struggled to get a performance out if them - at least in the PL.

 

You are very boring.

[shurlock]

Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV

 

Brera Calcio

Naţional Bucureşti

Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results)

Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double)

Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east)

Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months)

Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0

Catania (Did OK, but no more than that)

Palermo (sacked for poor results)

Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results)

Al Nasr SC

Sampdoria (sacked for poor results)

Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results)

 

If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best.

 

 

Not quite the footballing equivalent of Tago Mago [iNSERT ANY OTHER RANDOM HIPSTER ALBUM], is it?

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

You are very boring.

 

Yeah, boring but right.

[CB Fry]

Not quite the footballing equivalent of Tago Mago [iNSERT ANY OTHER RANDOM HIPSTER ALBUM], is it?

Walter Zenga is Australian Lucky Charms with Coconut Milk served in a Tricorn hat. On a unicycle. In Norway.

[Matthew Le God]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1308619/walter-zenga-to-southampton-saints-approach-former-italy-goalkeeper-to-replace-ronald-koeman-who-quit-for-everton/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20160619-_-Football-_-497434313-_-Image,textandlink

 

Walter Zenga is our man according to The Sun

 

Zenga:

 

Teams managed:

1998–1999 New England Revolution

2000–2001 Brera

2002–2003 Naţional Bucureşti

2004–2005 Steaua Bucureşti

2005–2006 Red Star Belgrade

2006–2007 Gaziantepspor

2007 Al-Ain

2007 Dinamo Bucureşti

2008–2009 Catania

2009–2010 Palermo

2010 Al-Nassr

2011–2013 Al-Nasr

2013–2014 Al Jazira

2015 Sampdoria

2015–2016 Al-Shaab

 

Doesn't really fit the bill does he?

 

Has hallmarks of...

 

1) agent's futile attempt touting no-hoper client who doesn't remotely tick any of Les Reed's criteria

2) bookie using press to try to get public to back no-hoper and manipulate the marker (conflict of interest with Murdoch newspaper and Murdoch Skybet)

3) clickbait

4) some or all of the above

[Pamplemousse]

If we hire Walter Zenga I will boycott St Mary's

[shirleysfc]

If we hire Walter Zenga I will boycott St Mary's

 

Kirk, is that you?

[Saint-Armstrong]

Kirk, is that you?

 

[scotty]

I don't remember a single person being happy with MP at the time, not one. The whole feeling was around chants and protests at the Everton home game to send our 'displeasure'.

 

A big part of the negative reaction to pochettino was the club sacking nigel after back to back promotions. I've got to include myself in that reaction.

[CB Fry]

Has hallmarks of...

 

1) agent's futile attempt touting no-hoper client who doesn't remotely tick any of Les Reed's criteria

2) bookie using press to try to get public to back no-hoper and manipulate the marker (conflict of interest with Murdoch newspaper and Murdoch Skybet)

3) clickbait

4) some or all of the above

My favoured explanation is the club are trolling the s@#! out of the fanbase for a giggle.

 

If I was a billionaire owner of a club I'd think I'd actually spend more time on that than doing proper deals. The days would fly by.

[Nordic Saint]

Has hallmarks of...

 

1) agent's futile attempt touting no-hoper client who doesn't remotely tick any of Les Reed's criteria

2) bookie using press to try to get public to back no-hoper and manipulate the marker (conflict of interest with Murdoch newspaper and Murdoch Skybet)

3) clickbait

4) some or all of the above

 

 

1) What are those? Anyone who'll do as he's told by Reed? Maybe Zenga is desperate enough for a job to accept that; Garcia clearly wasn't.

[Pamplemousse]

My favoured explanation is the club are trolling the s@#! out of the fanbase for a giggle.

 

If I was a billionaire owner of a club I'd think I'd actually spend more time on that than doing proper deals. The days would fly by.

 

Maybe it's Markus's young grandson who's behind it all.

[shurlock]

edit

[shurlock]

Walter Zenga is Australian Lucky Charms with Coconut Milk served in a Tricorn hat. On a unicycle. In Norway.

 

 

[Soggy Bottom]

Zenga is nothing more than his agent talking him up, at least that's what I think

[SO16_Saint]

Id rather the inanimate object and kids play thing, Jenga, manage us than Zenga

 

 

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[Block34]

Yeah, boring but right.

 

 

And were they perhaps less motivated due to Pellegrini having his managerial rug pulled from underneath him with the PG announcement. Maybe the team were getting long in the tooth, or tired, or just not plain trying. Maybe MP himself simply couldn't be arsed at that point.

 

But you highlight a time when there was a pretty extenuating circumstance that could well have been the root cause of the beach mentality.

 

But you won't deny they still finished above us and in the CL positions, irrespective.

 

Still waiting for your apology too...

[CB Fry]

Bare ankles. So mainstream. So 2015.

[Wildgoose]

I have a gut feeling it will be none of these mentioned, but a 'rabbit out of the hat' that will surprise us. I have no evidence for this, just a long time of following Saints. One thing I'm sure of. It won't be Zenga.

[Dellman]

Yes, It might be a surprise, remember the appointment of Paul Sturrock? Something like that perhaps.

[angelman]

Have a horrible gut feeling we are struggling to get someone half decent hope I'm wrong

 

Well at least we can fall back on the dream team of Reed/Lee. In fact , why are we even looking elsewhere?

[scotty]

Yes, It might be a surprise, remember the appointment of Paul Sturrock? Something like that perhaps.

 

That's a good point. Is he still available?

[Saint IQ]

Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV

 

Brera Calcio

Naţional Bucureşti

Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results)

Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double)

Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east)

Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months)

Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0

Catania (Did OK, but no more than that)

Palermo (sacked for poor results)

Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results)

Al Nasr SC

Sampdoria (sacked for poor results)

Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results)

 

If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best.

 

Guess people would rather have him though than the "Achingly trendy hipster nobody whose last job was relegating some two bob club"

 

I know I wouldn't.

[Dark Munster]

That's a good point. Is he still available?

Second highest PL win-percentage of a Saint's manager, behind Koeman. Eat your heart out Dalek.

[Bewildered]

Now would be a good time for K billy to come in and tell us that we won't be seeing Walter Zenga take the job.

[SuperSAINT]

Now would be a good time for K billy to come in and tell us that we won't be seeing Walter Zenga take the job.

 

Guan should be back from his holiday too.

[Yorkshire Saint]

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager

Zenga odds plummeting

[itchen_dan]

Now would be a good time for K billy to come in and tell us that we won't be seeing Walter Zenga take the job.

 

Guan should be back from his holiday too.

 

I was going to say hopefully it's time for another update especially after this weekends supposed further round of talks.

[Saint-Armstrong]

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager

Zenga odds plummeting

 

Well, obviously. A load of folk will have seen that article and chucked money on him. Just as they did with the previous names mentioned in articles.

[angelman]

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager

Zenga odds plummeting

 

That's only since the Sun article and is a reaction to people putting money on it.

[Bad Wolf]

The thought of us getting this Zenga bloke is taking me back to the Jan Poortvliet appointment. I'm getting a very similar vibe about him and I can't really put my finger on why.

[Monk]

Surprised there hasn't been much hype around Bielsa.

[Dalek2003]

Yes, It might be a surprise, remember the appointment of Paul Sturrock? Something like that perhaps.

 

It was a disaster. Had we appointed Hoddle we would have retained our premier status.

[farawaysaint]

Were you really impressed by Poch? He was sacked by Espanyol with an awful win percentage and in a time where nobody wanted him.

 

Fair point, but remember we were coming from the very capable Nigel Adkins to him. Poch's CV was far more illustrious.

 

Not knocking Nige at all, he was amazing and I was gutted when we sacked him but Poch softened the blow for me.

[buctootim]

Surprised there hasn't been much hype around Bielsa.

 

Going to Lazio supposedly. Do we need a brilliant but mad professor?

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/lazio/story/2895838/lazio-very-close-to-marcelo-bielsa-appointment-sporting-director-igli-tare

[Killers Knee]

Surprised there hasn't been much hype around Bielsa.

 

Would absolutely love for either him or Sampioli to take the reigns, one can only hope Les is on the case.

[goneawol]

Sampaoli is going to Sevilla.

 

http://www.football-espana.net/59137/sampaoli-confirms-sevilla-move

[Badger]

Sampaoli is going to Sevilla.

 

http://www.football-espana.net/59137/sampaoli-confirms-sevilla-move

 

So at least it blocks off another route for Garcia.

[Dark Munster]

It was a disaster. Had we appointed Hoddle we would have retained our premier status.

Did you see post 333, or are you ignoring it?

[doddisalegend]

It is getting to the point were Moyes is starting to look pretty good about now....

[norwaysaint]

Were you really impressed by Poch? He was sacked by Espanyol with an awful win percentage and in a time where nobody wanted him.

 

Quite fascinating to read back:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42442-quot-Saints-considering-Mauricio-Pochettino-quot-Daily-Mirror#.V2ciKbt97IV

[James]

remember the Sun strongly linked us to Felix Magath and a week later we appointed Koeman. It's a rag.

[norwaysaint]

Not impressed with any of these like I was Koeman and Poch.

 

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42442-quot-Saints-considering-Mauricio-Pochettino-quot-Daily-Mirror&p=1587573#post1587573