Mowgli Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 So much for Everton's £100M then..... http://www.footballinsider247.com/liverpool-sound-out-premier-league-star-about-summer-deal/? They really are pretty stupid to put that £100m transfer budget into the public arena. Every player they show an interest in will be marked up accordingly. The secret of good negotiation is never ever show your hand too early.
Pamplemousse Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Is is very true. The ONLY person I can remember who thought it was a blinding piece of business was Guillem Balague. I think most of the unhappiness was about the manner of his arrival.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Yes I would. It's not his fault that the idiots with money there pay £50m for Sterling. Check what he did with Villareal and Malaga. I'm not really interested in what achieved years ago. Look at how his team spent half of last season 'on the beach' and how he struggled to get a performance out if them - at least in the PL.
Bewildered Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV Brera Calcio Naţional Bucureşti Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results) Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double) Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east) Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months) Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0 Catania (Did OK, but no more than that) Palermo (sacked for poor results) Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results) Al Nasr SC Sampdoria (sacked for poor results) Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results) If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best.
saint77 Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Have a horrible gut feeling we are struggling to get someone half decent hope I'm wrong
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV Brera Calcio Naţional Bucureşti Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results) Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double) Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east) Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months) Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0 Catania (Did OK, but no more than that) Palermo (sacked for poor results) Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results) Al Nasr SC Sampdoria (sacked for poor results) Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results) If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best. They'll be a hipster along in a minute babbling on about Pochettino and how-will-we-ever-know-how-good-he-is-at-this-level-if-he-never-gets-a-chance.
Wade Garrett Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 I'm not really interested in what achieved years ago. Look at how his team spent half of last season 'on the beach' and how he struggled to get a performance out if them - at least in the PL. You are very boring.
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV Brera Calcio Naţional Bucureşti Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results) Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double) Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east) Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months) Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0 Catania (Did OK, but no more than that) Palermo (sacked for poor results) Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results) Al Nasr SC Sampdoria (sacked for poor results) Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results) If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best. Not quite the footballing equivalent of Tago Mago [iNSERT ANY OTHER RANDOM HIPSTER ALBUM], is it?
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 You are very boring. Yeah, boring but right.
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Not quite the footballing equivalent of Tago Mago [iNSERT ANY OTHER RANDOM HIPSTER ALBUM], is it? Walter Zenga is Australian Lucky Charms with Coconut Milk served in a Tricorn hat. On a unicycle. In Norway.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1308619/walter-zenga-to-southampton-saints-approach-former-italy-goalkeeper-to-replace-ronald-koeman-who-quit-for-everton/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20160619-_-Football-_-497434313-_-Image,textandlink Walter Zenga is our man according to The Sun Zenga: Teams managed: 1998–1999 New England Revolution 2000–2001 Brera 2002–2003 Naţional Bucureşti 2004–2005 Steaua Bucureşti 2005–2006 Red Star Belgrade 2006–2007 Gaziantepspor 2007 Al-Ain 2007 Dinamo Bucureşti 2008–2009 Catania 2009–2010 Palermo 2010 Al-Nassr 2011–2013 Al-Nasr 2013–2014 Al Jazira 2015 Sampdoria 2015–2016 Al-Shaab Doesn't really fit the bill does he? Has hallmarks of... 1) agent's futile attempt touting no-hoper client who doesn't remotely tick any of Les Reed's criteria 2) bookie using press to try to get public to back no-hoper and manipulate the marker (conflict of interest with Murdoch newspaper and Murdoch Skybet) 3) clickbait 4) some or all of the above
Pamplemousse Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 If we hire Walter Zenga I will boycott St Mary's
shirleysfc Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 If we hire Walter Zenga I will boycott St Mary's Kirk, is that you?
scotty Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 I don't remember a single person being happy with MP at the time, not one. The whole feeling was around chants and protests at the Everton home game to send our 'displeasure'. A big part of the negative reaction to pochettino was the club sacking nigel after back to back promotions. I've got to include myself in that reaction.
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Has hallmarks of... 1) agent's futile attempt touting no-hoper client who doesn't remotely tick any of Les Reed's criteria 2) bookie using press to try to get public to back no-hoper and manipulate the marker (conflict of interest with Murdoch newspaper and Murdoch Skybet) 3) clickbait 4) some or all of the above My favoured explanation is the club are trolling the s@#! out of the fanbase for a giggle. If I was a billionaire owner of a club I'd think I'd actually spend more time on that than doing proper deals. The days would fly by.
Nordic Saint Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Has hallmarks of... 1) agent's futile attempt touting no-hoper client who doesn't remotely tick any of Les Reed's criteria 2) bookie using press to try to get public to back no-hoper and manipulate the marker (conflict of interest with Murdoch newspaper and Murdoch Skybet) 3) clickbait 4) some or all of the above 1) What are those? Anyone who'll do as he's told by Reed? Maybe Zenga is desperate enough for a job to accept that; Garcia clearly wasn't.
Pamplemousse Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 My favoured explanation is the club are trolling the s@#! out of the fanbase for a giggle. If I was a billionaire owner of a club I'd think I'd actually spend more time on that than doing proper deals. The days would fly by. Maybe it's Markus's young grandson who's behind it all.
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Walter Zenga is Australian Lucky Charms with Coconut Milk served in a Tricorn hat. On a unicycle. In Norway.
Soggy Bottom Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Zenga is nothing more than his agent talking him up, at least that's what I think
SO16_Saint Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Id rather the inanimate object and kids play thing, Jenga, manage us than Zenga Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Block34 Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Yeah, boring but right. And were they perhaps less motivated due to Pellegrini having his managerial rug pulled from underneath him with the PG announcement. Maybe the team were getting long in the tooth, or tired, or just not plain trying. Maybe MP himself simply couldn't be arsed at that point. But you highlight a time when there was a pretty extenuating circumstance that could well have been the root cause of the beach mentality. But you won't deny they still finished above us and in the CL positions, irrespective. Still waiting for your apology too...
Wildgoose Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 I have a gut feeling it will be none of these mentioned, but a 'rabbit out of the hat' that will surprise us. I have no evidence for this, just a long time of following Saints. One thing I'm sure of. It won't be Zenga.
Dellman Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Yes, It might be a surprise, remember the appointment of Paul Sturrock? Something like that perhaps.
angelman Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Have a horrible gut feeling we are struggling to get someone half decent hope I'm wrong Well at least we can fall back on the dream team of Reed/Lee. In fact , why are we even looking elsewhere?
scotty Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Yes, It might be a surprise, remember the appointment of Paul Sturrock? Something like that perhaps. That's a good point. Is he still available?
Saint IQ Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Walter Zenga...let's look at his dazzling CV Brera Calcio Naţional Bucureşti Steaua Bucureşti (won league title and made uefa cup last 16, then got fired for bad results) Crvena zvezda (won the serbian league cup double) Gaziantepspor (Failed, 5 wins in 17 then quit so he could run off to the middle east) Al-Ain (sacked after 5 months) Dinamo Bucureşti (lasted 2 months0 Catania (Did OK, but no more than that) Palermo (sacked for poor results) Al-Nassr. (sacked for bad results) Al Nasr SC Sampdoria (sacked for poor results) Al-Shaab (left by mutual consent after bad results) If we hire this guy, he will last 3 months at best. Guess people would rather have him though than the "Achingly trendy hipster nobody whose last job was relegating some two bob club" I know I wouldn't.
Dark Munster Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 That's a good point. Is he still available? Second highest PL win-percentage of a Saint's manager, behind Koeman. Eat your heart out Dalek.
Bewildered Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Now would be a good time for K billy to come in and tell us that we won't be seeing Walter Zenga take the job.
SuperSAINT Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Now would be a good time for K billy to come in and tell us that we won't be seeing Walter Zenga take the job. Guan should be back from his holiday too.
Yorkshire Saint Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager Zenga odds plummeting
itchen_dan Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Now would be a good time for K billy to come in and tell us that we won't be seeing Walter Zenga take the job. Guan should be back from his holiday too. I was going to say hopefully it's time for another update especially after this weekends supposed further round of talks.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager Zenga odds plummeting Well, obviously. A load of folk will have seen that article and chucked money on him. Just as they did with the previous names mentioned in articles.
angelman Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager Zenga odds plummeting That's only since the Sun article and is a reaction to people putting money on it.
Bad Wolf Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 The thought of us getting this Zenga bloke is taking me back to the Jan Poortvliet appointment. I'm getting a very similar vibe about him and I can't really put my finger on why.
Dalek2003 Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Yes, It might be a surprise, remember the appointment of Paul Sturrock? Something like that perhaps. It was a disaster. Had we appointed Hoddle we would have retained our premier status.
farawaysaint Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Were you really impressed by Poch? He was sacked by Espanyol with an awful win percentage and in a time where nobody wanted him. Fair point, but remember we were coming from the very capable Nigel Adkins to him. Poch's CV was far more illustrious. Not knocking Nige at all, he was amazing and I was gutted when we sacked him but Poch softened the blow for me.
buctootim Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Surprised there hasn't been much hype around Bielsa. Going to Lazio supposedly. Do we need a brilliant but mad professor? http://www.espnfc.co.uk/lazio/story/2895838/lazio-very-close-to-marcelo-bielsa-appointment-sporting-director-igli-tare
Killers Knee Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Surprised there hasn't been much hype around Bielsa. Would absolutely love for either him or Sampioli to take the reigns, one can only hope Les is on the case.
goneawol Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Sampaoli is going to Sevilla. http://www.football-espana.net/59137/sampaoli-confirms-sevilla-move
Badger Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Sampaoli is going to Sevilla. http://www.football-espana.net/59137/sampaoli-confirms-sevilla-move So at least it blocks off another route for Garcia.
Dark Munster Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 It was a disaster. Had we appointed Hoddle we would have retained our premier status. Did you see post 333, or are you ignoring it?
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 It is getting to the point were Moyes is starting to look pretty good about now....
norwaysaint Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Were you really impressed by Poch? He was sacked by Espanyol with an awful win percentage and in a time where nobody wanted him. Quite fascinating to read back: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42442-quot-Saints-considering-Mauricio-Pochettino-quot-Daily-Mirror#.V2ciKbt97IV
James Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 remember the Sun strongly linked us to Felix Magath and a week later we appointed Koeman. It's a rag.
norwaysaint Posted 19 June, 2016 Posted 19 June, 2016 Not impressed with any of these like I was Koeman and Poch. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42442-quot-Saints-considering-Mauricio-Pochettino-quot-Daily-Mirror&p=1587573#post1587573
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