Toadhall Saint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 You're a bright Spark aren't you Would people be happier with Silva than Puel? The whims of SWF members are hard to follow. Silva but I'll support whoever gets it within reason
badgerx16 Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Northern Ireland and Wales to follow. That only leaves Adkins Wales voted leave, so it'll probably turn out to be Chris Coleman.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Wales voted leave, so it'll probably turn out to be Chris Coleman. Wasn't that quite unexpected? Thought I saw them in the red remain camp on yesterday's graphics.
Professor Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Wondered why the club were considering a chef, but it was the wrong Marco. Marco Silva's pages on the web must have been well-trawled over by Saints' fans by now. Only five years since hanging up his boots but an impressive record in management/coaching in a short time. Like the idea of having a young manager (even younger than Kelvin). Imagine he would be a lot more active in the technical area, and at training, than our last, rather sedentary manager, who's name I've forgotten. Silva looks the sort of candidate who would have been on the club's radar and as he has just handed in his notice at Olympiakos, this one is beginning to feel as if it might be happening.
Saint_Ash Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Puel massively odds on. Why don't people like him? Seems to have the pedigree we need in Europe etc.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Puel massively odds on. Why don't people like him? Seems to have the pedigree we need in Europe etc. Who knows, perhaps he isn't good on football manager.
Village Saint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Rudi Garcia et Claude Puel ont rencontré les dirigeants de #Southampton. L'ancien coach romain a décliné l'offre. (L'Equipe) #PL 7:26 AM - 19 Jun 2016 · Neuilly-sur-Seine, France, France Selon @lequipe, les dirigeants de Southampton ont rencontré Claude Puel et Rudi Garcia, qui lui a décliné l'offre. http://m.goal.com/s/fr/news/33/transferts/2016/06/19/24787922/rudi-garcia-refuse http://www.wynfoot.fr/actualites/categorie/roma/70837590?t=rudi_garcia_refuse_so So you actually have no evidence whatsoever for any of your assertions. Why bother making them?
S-Clarke Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Who knows, perhaps he isn't good on football manager. You're well educated in French football window's....what's your opinion/feeling on him? (may have missed it you have already said)
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 So you actually have no evidence whatsoever for any of your assertions. Why bother making them? Every post he/she makes is just to have a go at Reed.
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 You're well educated in French football window's....what's your opinion/feeling on him? (may have missed it you have already said) I'm all for him if it's a choice between him and this portuguese bloke Silva that seems to be the latest fad. I intially favoured Pellegrini though but as he's not an option I'm behind Puel. Never really done a bad job anywhere and will probably be modest enough in his transfer demands. Don't know how it's going to pan out though, seems to be something of a standby option as far as the club is concerned.
Saint_Ash Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 I'm all for him if it's a choice between him and this portuguese bloke Silva that seems to be the latest fad. I intially favoured Pellegrini though but as he's not an option I'm behind Puel. Never really done a bad job anywhere and will probably be modest enough in his transfer demands. Don't know how it's going to pan out though, seems to be something of a standby option as far as the club is concerned. I think he seems pretty decent. Like you I was in the Pellegrini camp but. Puel looks like a decent appointment.
S-Clarke Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 I'm all for him if it's a choice between him and this portuguese bloke Silva that seems to be the latest fad. I intially favoured Pellegrini though but as he's not an option I'm behind Puel. Never really done a bad job anywhere and will probably be modest enough in his transfer demands. Don't know how it's going to pan out though, seems to be something of a standby option as far as the club is concerned. Cheers, seems fair enough to me. From all I can see, the criticisms seem to be around a couple of things. 1) - He's not Pellegrini 2) - He's not a well known name Not entirely sure those are fair criticisms to label against a potential manager who, on paper, has a very impressive CV. It's not about the name, as we should know all too well, it's about how that individual fits with the rest.
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Cheers, seems fair enough to me. From all I can see, the criticisms seem to be around a couple of things. 1) - He's not Pellegrini 2) - He's not a well known name Not entirely sure those are fair criticisms to label against a potential manager who, on paper, has a very impressive CV. It's not about the name, as we should know all too well, it's about how that individual fits with the rest. I concur but I must say I like the sound of silva but tbh up until a week ago I'd not heard of either - I'll trust the club to get the right man for the job they want him to do.
glengarryleads Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 considering that the most eye-catching inexpensive talents to arrive in England over the last few years were kicking it in France (Mahrez, Kante, Payet...), I would at least have fingers crossed that Puel would have a strong say in assessing talent from Ligue 1, and do well by us. a couple francophone players would come in handy in welcoming Morgan back after MU crash out of Europe next year, too.
Black Sea Saint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Puel's another Remi Garde, no? Although Garde's win ratio was better in Ligue 1 than Puel's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9mi_Garde
altoniansaints Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Are there any prices for MARIAN PAHARS Would love this one day
Batman Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 6th in the league, club open about champions league Is this French chap the best we can come up with?
CB Fry Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 If this guy doesn't work out early the club are going to regret blabbing out the likes of Pellegrini to the media. Fans won't forget who we "turned down" or who we could have had if we're up sh it street in October.
Pamplemousse Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Puel's another Remi Garde, no? Although Garde's win ratio was better in Ligue 1 than Puel's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9mi_Garde To be fair, Villa were a dreadful team. Not sure you can really judge Garde based on that.
Block34 Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 See the good Mr Giggs odds are shortening across the board...
DT Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 See the good Mr Giggs odds are shortening across the board... Surely not even we are that dumb? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CB Fry Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Surely not even we are that dumb? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Would be lunacy on an epic scale. We won't do it. Giggs can toddle off and get a job he doesn't deserve to have somewhere else like Forest or Blackburn or Fulham or anywhere else.
Professor Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 If, as the French report implies, agreement with Garcia wasn't reached because he was insisting on bringing a third member of his coaching staff with him, I'm impressed with Les Reed's refusal to create a vacancy by dismissing Sammy Lee, who had remained with Saints. The reason for Sammy staying is immaterial, because the fact remains he is a club employee and they have shown loyalty to him. A scarce commodity these days. It also suggests that Reed wasn't so desperate to have Garcia that they would allow him to dictate terms. I have no idea whether Puel or Silva is the stronger candidate but my guess is they are leaning towards Silva.
buctootim Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 If, as the French report implies, agreement with Garcia wasn't reached because he was insisting on bringing a third member of his coaching staff with him, I'm impressed with Les Reed's refusal to create a vacancy by dismissing Sammy Lee, who had remained with Saints. The reason for Sammy staying is immaterial, because the fact remains he is a club employee and they have shown loyalty to him. A scarce commodity these days. It also suggests that Reed wasn't so desperate to have Garcia that they would allow him to dictate terms. I have no idea whether Puel or Silva is the stronger candidate but my guess is they are leaning towards Silva. Admirable loyalty f'sure - but a more sensible option would have been to create an additional job and get the better manager in.
saint77 Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 If, as the French report implies, agreement with Garcia wasn't reached because he was insisting on bringing a third member of his coaching staff with him, I'm impressed with Les Reed's refusal to create a vacancy by dismissing Sammy Lee, who had remained with Saints. The reason for Sammy staying is immaterial, because the fact remains he is a club employee and they have shown loyalty to him. A scarce commodity these days. It also suggests that Reed wasn't so desperate to have Garcia that they would allow him to dictate terms. I have no idea whether Puel or Silva is the stronger candidate but my guess is they are leaning towards Silva. We have lost 3 staff so what was the problem?
S-Clarke Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 We have lost 3 staff so what was the problem? 3 of Koeman's staff. It was clear from the outset that Lee and Watson were club appointments, along with Hunter etc.
CB Fry Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 We don't know the ins and outs - for all we know SFC agreed that Garcia could bring in the additional coach but that he still must find a role for Sammy Lee and he's refused that (or, probably more likely, we stuck to our guns and said we've got the England goalie coach, that's that, you don't need yours). It's difficult but there has to be a degree of "how much do you want this job?" as well. If it's not to be then it's not to be.
sotonist Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 We don't know the ins and outs - for all we know SFC agreed that Garcia could bring in the additional coach but that he still must find a role for Sammy Lee and he's refused that (or, probably more likely, we stuck to our guns and said we've got the England goalie coach, that's that, you don't need yours). It's difficult but there has to be a degree of "how much do you want this job?" as well. If it's not to be then it's not to be. seems likely to me. a lot of managers seem to bring their pet goalie coach with them, and like in the team, there's not room for more than one of those.
musesaint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 This is starting to get more tedious than a referendum When is it all going to be over?
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 June, 2016 Posted 24 June, 2016 Badly want Marco Silva!!!!!! Ooooeerrr missus!
kermitsaint Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Admirable loyalty f'sure - but a more sensible option would have been to create an additional job and get the better manager in. Totally agree . Seems very odd to turn down an excellent manager for the sake of one employment position . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk
HKsaint Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 As our star players are going and are replaced by cheaper ones, should we turn to a manager who is expertise in relegation battle? Di Canio in my mind.
Pilchards Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 As our star players are going and are replaced by cheaper ones, should we turn to a manager who is expertise in relegation battle? Di Canio in my mind. But we have been doing this for the last three years and our league position has improved.
Pancake Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 As our star players are going and are replaced by cheaper ones, should we turn to a manager who is expertise in relegation battle? Di Canio in my mind. You call Juanmi a star player? It's just that you used the plural and I can only think of Vic and Juanmi that have gone this window.
Greenridge Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 (edited) You call Juanmi a star player? It's just that you used the plural and I can only think of Vic and Juanmi that have gone this window. He said 'are going' not 'gone'. It seems fairly safe to say that Mane is part of that group at this point. He could always do a 'Vardy' of course. Edited 25 June, 2016 by Greenridge
Mr Biscuits Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 As our star players are going and are replaced by cheaper ones, should we turn to a manager who is expertise in relegation battle? Di Canio in my mind. Do let us know when you've finished running around the room with your hands in the air screaming
doddisalegend Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 As our star players are going and are replaced by cheaper ones, should we turn to a manager who is expertise in relegation battle? Di Canio in my mind. Did you miss four of our players signing new contracts recently? (ok calling JWP a star might be stretching it a bit)
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Thought this was a thread about our new manager? You can tell things are starting to get a bit boring when squabbles start on here about a random subject. Time well tell, but I am not feeling hugely confident that Reed and Co will get lucky again to the point that the new manager will click with the club/squad and improve our position. And I'm starting to wonder if the rest of the Prem will look at our new managerial appointment and say "WHO?" rather than "WOW!".
brett24 Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Is the shortlist just Puel or is there someone else. Hope it's Marco Silva. French guy at work said Puel was a good coach who played exciting attacking football.
MicrowavedGerbil Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Going on a hunch, I'm no way ITK, I think Marco Silva will be our next manager. He's way too good for Forest, and after tasting CL football why would he go to a Championship club. Regardless, I hope all this is sorted soon, hopefully we might see some movement next week.
bjk Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Going on a hunch, I'm no way ITK, I think Marco Silva will be our next manager. He's way too good for Forest, and after tasting CL football why would he go to a Championship club. Regardless, I hope all this is sorted soon, hopefully we might see some movement next week. Seriously hoping your right.Out of the two of them I think Silva looks the more exciting manager and feel he could have a similar impact as Pochettino.I just don't feel anything about Puel.
Toadhall Saint Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Thought this was a thread about our new manager? You can tell things are starting to get a bit boring when squabbles start on here about a random subject. Time well tell, but I am not feeling hugely confident that Reed and Co will get lucky again to the point that the new manager will click with the club/squad and improve our position. And I'm starting to wonder if the rest of the Prem will look at our new managerial appointment and say "WHO?" rather than "WOW!". Like they did with MP?
GarrettIvo Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Thought this was a thread about our new manager? You can tell things are starting to get a bit boring when squabbles start on here about a random subject. Time well tell, but I am not feeling hugely confident that Reed and Co will get lucky again to the point that the new manager will click with the club/squad and improve our position. And I'm starting to wonder if the rest of the Prem will look at our new managerial appointment and say "WHO?" rather than "WOW!". That may be so, but you can name any manager in the world you like and I would happily guarantee you that the chances of us improving our position again next season are close to zero. And I am not even a bed-wetter.
MicrowavedGerbil Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Seriously hoping your right.Out of the two of them I think Silva looks the more exciting manager and feel he could have a similar impact as Pochettino.I just don't feel anything about Puel. Puel just leaves me feeling cold in all honesty. If he's appointed then I'll fully back him, but he just doesn't get me excited the same way Silva does. Silva's situation is strange tho. Resigned from Olympiacos for personal reasons apparently, some journalists saying he had a falling out with the owner, (who is also about to buy Forest, hence the link). Same journalists then linked him to us, after saying he would never manage a club in the second tier. Maybe all ********, time will tell. I live in hope tho.
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 If, as the French report implies, agreement with Garcia wasn't reached because he was insisting on bringing a third member of his coaching staff with him, I'm impressed with Les Reed's refusal to create a vacancy by dismissing Sammy Lee, who had remained with Saints. The reason for Sammy staying is immaterial, because the fact remains he is a club employee and they have shown loyalty to him. A scarce commodity these days. It also suggests that Reed wasn't so desperate to have Garcia that they would allow him to dictate terms. I have no idea whether Puel or Silva is the stronger candidate but my guess is they are leaning towards Silva. I recall Rupert being loyal to staff, enter Stuart Gray and we know where that led to
eelpie Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Did you miss four of our players signing new contracts recently? (ok calling JWP a star might be stretching it a bit) I think that this denigration of JWP has to stop, even in jest. Supporters are supposed to support our academy players.
eelpie Posted 25 June, 2016 Posted 25 June, 2016 Puel just leaves me feeling cold in all honesty. If he's appointed then I'll fully back him, but he just doesn't get me excited the same way Silva does. Silva's situation is strange tho. Resigned from Olympiacos for personal reasons apparently, some journalists saying he had a falling out with the owner, (who is also about to buy Forest, hence the link). Same journalists then linked him to us, after saying he would never manage a club in the second tier. Maybe all ********, time will tell. I live in hope tho. Mods, it really is time to update the poll.
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