Window Cleaner Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 it is gong to be either Peirera or who ever the hell he is. Or Puel. Puel is OK, the players might not like him though. With Claude you do it his way or not at all, still he's nowhere near as bad as Van Gaal in that respect.
thorpie the sinner Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 If anyone does still like the idea of Vitor ( a la Telegraph saying he is still on shortlist) taking the helm, 25's across the board looks darn tempting
Saint IQ Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Marco Silva can sign our long time target and Portuguese compatriot Rafa Silva. Davis's/Koeman's Song lives on after Kelvin retires and Koeman's leave. Job's a goodun
buctootim Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Puel would be a joke. Obviously ideally you want to play a certain style and to promote youth, but a track record of success trumps everything else imo.
CB Fry Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 ah, this is where saints do everything quietly. good read BTW Media whores.
nta786 Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I was so pinned on Pellegrini that for some reason I'm gonna be underwhelmed with Claude Puel. Still will get behind him though.
Wade Garrett Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I find it amusing that we would be happy with any Carlos Kickaball we've never heard of because it worked with Poch. Madness. We're the only job going in the richest league in the world, and we've got a European place. We should be aiming higher than a lot of the no mark names that are being bandied around. That said, Les Reed has a history of pulling rabbits from hats. Fingers crossed he gets this right. I'm very disappointed it's not going to be Pellegrini (as is my bank account).
doddisalegend Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Telegraph update: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/23/manuel-pellegrini-latest-potential-southampton-manager-to-drop-o/ - Saints seriously looked into Pellegrini - Don't think he suits our player development orientated approach - Not quite the right fit for us on the training ground - Puel and Pereira are candidates - Klinsmann was never even on any shortlist or under consideration - Wanyama sale is imminent - Redmond arrival is imminent - Saints hope to have a new manager by the 28th still So reading that Les basically wants a mopo clone. Might as well just go to spurs and offer poch four times his current salary and everything he wants Les....
Wade Garrett Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I would seriously prefer Moyes to Puel or Pereira.
Window Cleaner Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 So reading that Les basically wants a mopo clone. Might as well just go to spurs and offer poch four times his current salary and everything he wants Les.... But the problem with that is that we can't offer Champion's League football. That's what he wants, he came here to get it but Nico got sacked.
Matthew Le God Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 But the problem with that is that we can't offer Champion's League football. That's what he wants, he came here to get it but Nico got sacked. We got a lot closer to the Champions League without Pochettino & Cortese... than we did with them.
Window Cleaner Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Ouchy, don't know how this will affect any Puel candidacy but 6 of his ex players at Nice have been summoned before the courts over illegal betting last season.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Baffling! If MP was interested why on earth aren't we snapping his arm off. He's a top manager coming off of a good season with City. Either he wasn't in the running at all or flat out rejected us, surely we didn't reject him. If that was a good season for city , what would make a bad one ?
Professor Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I'd have no problem with Pellegrini and it certainly looks as if he's been on the short list but if he was the chosen candidate there doesn't appear to be any reason not to announce it. The talk about his Man City contract lasting until 30 June is no obstacle to an announcement in the same way that City announced the forward appointment of Guardiola. The delay suggests that perhaps Pellegrini is second choice while details are thrashed out with the preferred candidate. If that is Marco Silva few of us know enough about him, or anything at all, to take a view but we are beginning to hear positive noises. We should also have confidence in Les Reed and his team to recommend the best person to the Board. Looking back on Koeman's failure to develop young players into the first team, it's been tempting to blame the quality available in the Academy but it could just be Koeman's stated position that you must have a side consisting of international players. Logically, that would never allow any young player to break through. That seems to contrast with Pochettino, who gave Premier League starts to a succession of Academy or uncapped players with the result that people like Lallana, Lambert, Shaw, Clyne and Chambers went on to be selected for England. Pochettino has done the same at Tottenham by showing confidence in players such as Kane and Alli who had not had full caps until after he played them in the side. Nigel Adkins did the same when he took Saints into the Prem, giving 17-year old James Ward-Prowse a start in our first Premier League match away to Man City. If Marco Silva is a return to that philosophy after Koeman's dead hand on young players, that could be a deciding factor nudging him ahead of Pellegrini who is probably more used to following a similar line to Koeman.
Saint IQ Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I'd have no problem with Pellegrini and it certainly looks as if he's been on the short list but if he was the chosen candidate there doesn't appear to be any reason not to announce it. The talk about his Man City contract lasting until 30 June is no obstacle to an announcement in the same way that City announced the forward appointment of Guardiola. The delay suggests that perhaps Pellegrini is second choice while details are thrashed out with the preferred candidate. If that is Marco Silva few of us know enough about him, or anything at all, to take a view but we are beginning to hear positive noises. We should also have confidence in Les Reed and his team to recommend the best person to the Board. Looking back on Koeman's failure to develop young players into the first team, it's been tempting to blame the quality available in the Academy but it could just be Koeman's stated position that you must have a side consisting of international players. Logically, that would never allow any young player to break through. That seems to contrast with Pochettino, who gave Premier League starts to a succession of Academy or uncapped players with the result that people like Lallana, Lambert, Shaw, Clyne and Chambers went on to be selected for England. Pochettino has done the same at Tottenham by showing confidence in players such as Kane and Alli who had not had full caps until after he played them in the side. Nigel Adkins did the same when he took Saints into the Prem, giving 17-year old James Ward-Prowse a start in our first Premier League match away to Man City. If Marco Silva is a return to that philosophy after Koeman's dead hand on young players, that could be a deciding factor nudging him ahead of Pellegrini who is probably more used to following a similar line to Koeman. Pochettino carried on that Philosophy at Spurs introducing that kid Josh Onomah many times in a title race no less.
SuperSAINT Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 The criteria from the Telegraph piece: Southampton want a manager who encourages a high-pressing and passing style, as well as a willingness to promote young players and, ideally, experience of European football. I think we'd all agree with that. But ONLY if the kids are good enough. Ronald gets some sh*t for not playing enough kids, but if Chambers & Shaw were still around, I bet he would have played them.
Viking Warrior Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I'm going to try a new sport . Press baiting . Put a story on the forum an someone will run with it Here goes the real reason we have not appointed anyone is that the club are in complex negotiations with a multi billionaire to sell the club . Once this is concluded the new owners will then announce a household name as our new owner .
Baird of the land Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Wasn't ever on the Pellegrini bandwagon, so i'm rather content if its true he's no longer in contention.
whelk Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 As per Guan's previous info, the board haven't changed their mind on Pellegrini and the fact that he wouldn't be suitable for our system. So your mate jack schitt was wrong
Dig Dig Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Do you expect it the next day? They said they always have a list of people to target. So that happens. It's been a few weeks FFS, it's like listening to a bunch of five year olds. Chelsea's manager isn't even taking charge of them for a while yet. Perhaps the board would rather get it right than rush to please a bunch of internet kids? It's light hearted you boring goon. You're one of the main culprits for 5 year old-esq trantrums around here.
The Fat Controller Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Giggs Manager, with Moyes DOF or Gus Hiddink outright new boss
Millbrook Saint Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 The criteria from the Telegraph piece: I think we'd all agree with that. But ONLY if the kids are good enough. Ronald gets some sh*t for not playing enough kids, but if Chambers & Shaw were still around, I bet he would have played them. Tend to agree with this, if tottenham sold all their best youngsters leaving the 'not so good' ones they could hardly go on to moan that the manager never plays youngsters.
Plastic Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 I'm going to try a new sport . Press baiting . Put a story on the forum an someone will run with it Here goes the real reason we have not appointed anyone is that the club are in complex negotiations with a multi billionaire to sell the club . Once this is concluded the new owners will then announce a household name as our new owner . Would work better if you left out the first paragraph surely?
westmidlandsaint Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Just announced on SSN that Blanc has left PSG so I guess that's Unai Emery off the list. I wouldn't say I have got to melt down stage but I am concerned. We've been told that the black box has next managerial targets identified all the time but it seems (I could be wrong) that we haven't got a clue. I'm concerned we are trying to find the next MoPo but we'll end up with the next Remi Garde. With EL group stage we should be looking at a manager who could can attract players otherwise our continued growth could start going backwards. I hope Les is looking at what is best for Saints and not enhancing his own reputation for finding a diamond in the rough because eventually he's going to end up with a duff.
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Just announced on SSN that Blanc has left PSG so I guess that's Unai Emery off the list. I wouldn't say I have got to melt down stage but I am concerned. We've been told that the black box has next managerial targets identified all the time but it seems (I could be wrong) that we haven't got a clue. I'm concerned we are trying to find the next MoPo but we'll end up with the next Remi Garde. With EL group stage we should be looking at a manager who could can attract players otherwise our continued growth could start going backwards. I hope Les is looking at what is best for Saints and not enhancing his own reputation for finding a diamond in the rough because eventually he's going to end up with a duff. Think that covers my thoughts too but then I am still ****ed off we didn't go for Pellegrini who I thought was ideal for us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
St Lej Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Puel sounds very mediocre looking at his record. Maybe the club are trying to look a bit more long term by appointing a slightly lesser manager that won't be good enough for other clubs to steal off us. May aswell splint Remi Garde as this guy. Seriously who the hell , especially a club our size, turns down Pellegrini
Window Cleaner Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Just announced on SSN that Blanc has left PSG so I guess that's Unai Emery off the list. . Blanc gets a 22 million euro pay off apparently, absolute folly. Hope Emery is worth it.
Crab Lungs Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 The criteria from the Telegraph piece: I think we'd all agree with that. But ONLY if the kids are good enough. Ronald gets some sh*t for not playing enough kids, but if Chambers & Shaw were still around, I bet he would have played them. That's Puel or Silva.
St Lej Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Silva appears to be far more preferable than Puel, looking at their respective records and who they've managed
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Silva appears to be far more preferable than Puel, looking at their respective records and who they've managed That's my opinion too
Verbal Kint Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Puel sounds very mediocre looking at his record. Maybe the club are trying to look a bit more long term by appointing a slightly lesser manager that won't be good enough for other clubs to steal off us. May aswell splint Remi Garde as this guy. Seriously who the hell , especially a club our size, turns down Pellegrini A club that realises just because a manager has had success in the past doesn't mean he will be a success at ours. A club that maybe realises getting a manager who is on the same wavelength as them is more important than getting a big name necessarily. The board went a bit off piste with Koeman as they knew we would be selling a lot of players and we therefore needed a big name manager to steady the ship and be able to attract players instantly. We aren't in that situation anymore. Pellegrini did a very average job at City (had everything handed to him on a plate and still failed), came across as unbelievably dull, uninspiring, old and didn't really bring through any youngsters despite having some of the best young talent in Europe at his disposal. I'm looking forward to us having a manager who will trust and develop our youngsters and won't be constantly undermining the board in the press as regularly as Koeman did
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Silva appears to be far more preferable than Puel, looking at their respective records and who they've managed Exactly he has only managed in France a poor win ratio and as you say a Remi Garde potentially. How will he cope with Premiership prima donnas? Am concerned although club has deserved some slack but doesn't stop me being worried we have turned down a top top manager Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
St Chalet Posted 23 June, 2016 Author Posted 23 June, 2016 Blanc gets a 22 million euro pay off apparently, absolute folly. Hope Emery is worth it. The only thing more expensive than employing a Frenchman is sacking a Frenchman.
saint1977 Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Silva appears to be far more preferable than Puel, looking at their respective records and who they've managed Has just been linked with Forest by the local paper there as they are set for a Greek-backed takeover. If so, let's hope the club have some better and more exciting options than Puel in the bag!
Wade Garrett Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Just announced on SSN that Blanc has left PSG so I guess that's Unai Emery off the list. I wouldn't say I have got to melt down stage but I am concerned. We've been told that the black box has next managerial targets identified all the time but it seems (I could be wrong) that we haven't got a clue. I'm concerned we are trying to find the next MoPo but we'll end up with the next Remi Garde. With EL group stage we should be looking at a manager who could can attract players otherwise our continued growth could start going backwards. I hope Les is looking at what is best for Saints and not enhancing his own reputation for finding a diamond in the rough because eventually he's going to end up with a duff. Perfectly sums up my thoughts.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Marco Silva actually sounds quite interesting after reading about him. More so than Puel has at any stage, although I admit that I could be totally wrong on him.
Wade Garrett Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 They should look at the Hedge End Rangers U15s manager from 1985. Won everything, and wasn't afraid to play youngsters.
Saint Billy Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Is Silva actually linked or is this just a trumped up load of forum created codswallop.
Chalkboy Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Is Silva actually linked or is this just a trumped up load of forum created codswallop. Don't think he's linked at all, which for some reason makes me think it might be him. If that makes any sense.
Bewildered Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Whats the difference between Silva and Perreira that makes the former appealing but not the latter? Both only managed and suceeded in Mickey Mouse leagues. Whats so bad about Puel? Does he have lots of relegations and no European experience?
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Whats the difference between Silva and Perreira that makes the former appealing but not the latter? Both only managed and suceeded in Mickey Mouse leagues. Whats so bad about Puel? Does he have lots of relegations and no European experience? Pereira's never managed more than one season at every club, and has always had the biggest club or the club with the most resources. Silva is younger, worked miracles with Estoril and then did very well with Sporting before going to Olympiakos and bettering Pereira's record by some distance.
SuperSAINT Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Pereira's never managed more than one season at every club, and has always had the biggest club or the club with the most resources. Silva is younger, worked miracles with Estoril and then did very well with Sporting before going to Olympiakos and bettering Pereira's record by some distance. What is Silva's playing style? Had a brief look at work earlier but couldn't find anything specific.
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 What is Silva's playing style? Had a brief look at work earlier but couldn't find anything specific. Generally lines up 433
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Is Silva actually linked or is this just a trumped up load of forum created codswallop. http://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/liga_inglesa/artigo/2016/06/23/marco-silva-apontado-ao-southampton Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Didn't Crab Lungs call for Marco Silva? He'll be pleased! A bit different to Pellegrini...
saintalan Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 And its hi ho Marco Silva; any time now baby Be worth it just for the song!
doddisalegend Posted 23 June, 2016 Posted 23 June, 2016 Just announced on SSN that Blanc has left PSG so I guess that's Unai Emery off the list. I wouldn't say I have got to melt down stage but I am concerned. We've been told that the black box has next managerial targets identified all the time but it seems (I could be wrong) that we haven't got a clue. I'm concerned we are trying to find the next MoPo but we'll end up with the next Remi Garde. With EL group stage we should be looking at a manager who could can attract players otherwise our continued growth could start going backwards. I hope Les is looking at what is best for Saints and not enhancing his own reputation for finding a diamond in the rough because eventually he's going to end up with a duff. I assume the targets are nothing more than a starting point that identifies managers who might fit what the clubs wants rather than a list of phone numbers they just call up and offer a job to. I doubt the likes of Pellegrini or Klinsmen were ever on the black box list in the first place.
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