The Fat Controller Posted 13 June, 2016 Share Posted 13 June, 2016 Straight yes or no vote amongst Saintsweb fan base Should we keep Pelle and Wanyama Next season and risk them both leaving on free transfers? Mods add a poll to this if you wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 13 June, 2016 Author Share Posted 13 June, 2016 Personally yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 (edited) Hmm depends on money offered, but I think we will accept £14-15m from Spurs for Wanyama, because asking for anymore is unrealistic tbh. It depends on transfers we have lined up too. Personally, I think we should take the £15m and invest for Wantama, and sell Pelle now his stock his high IF HE DOESNT SIGN A CONTRACT. However I'd like to keep both of them ofc lol. Edited 14 June, 2016 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 If we have satisfactory replacements lined up, then no. You would be talking about binning up to 25m. For me everything is a mess again. I dont see how we can decide on such matters until we have a new manager. And that is turning into a saga again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Excellent news. I like it when our summers turn into "sagas". Always a sign of a good season ahead. Lovely jubbly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Are they they the type of players to give their all week in week out whilst running their contracts down , i don't think they are.Therefore , they sign an extension or we get rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Wanyama is going. With Pelle the issue seems to be that we don't want to offer him an extension which I find odd unless we have someone lined up who is top quality. That said, with Koeman gone, Pelle may want to go and if he can move home to Italy I would wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Saints won't offer Pelle a 2 or 3 year contract as he is slowly moving away from his best. No way would Pelle accept a one year extension as it does not offer him financial security for the next 3 years. So he has to go now as we have to cash in. Wanyama wants out so **** him off for 15m and move on. Plenty of better players than him and I reckon Sneilderlin would come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 The board have known for the last two seasons Wanyama was probably off.......I would be surprised if a replacement has not been identified....and yes get rid now. Pelle is like marmite.....last night he showed why so many of us love him, he is passionate and so understated by so many Saints fans....however i think we should cash in now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Schneiderlin won't come back. Who are your better players than Wanyama that would replace his strength and are in our budget? Also a one year extension for Pelle would give him security of two more years, I reckon he would consider that unless he wants to go back to Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Keep both.. We are a better side with Wanyama in the side.. Last night proves what an asset Pelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 For Wanyama = No When he threw his toys out of the pram last year his performance dropped off of a cliff and he screwed things up for us royally. I'd rather he leaves for less than expected and we have a cohesive team of players who want to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 After Alderwiereld, will we ever negotiate with Spuds again. I hope not, keep him till January as a marker to others and let other clubs know that he will be available, and only accept hard cash in full up front if Spurs are only buyer, and stick him on the bench and make him train with youngsters if he won't find another club. Screw Levy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 After Alderwiereld, will we ever negotiate with Spuds again. I hope not, keep him till January as a marker to others and let other clubs know that he will be available, and only accept hard cash in full up front if Spurs are only buyer, and stick him on the bench and make him train with youngsters if he won't find another club. Screw Levy. I would sell Wanyana for a decent price, but not to Spurs or, I suppose, Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydenhampton Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Quite happy to let Pelle go. A fully fit Austin, J-Rod & Long can lead the line between them, so in the big scheme of things, he won't be missed. Big Vic on the other hand? Hmm, talk about being caught between a rock & a hard place. What I think I would do is mess Spuds around as much as possible by waiting until we've black-boxed a replacement in first and foremost, then give Levy the run-around. He'll leave, but there's no reason why we should hold the door for him & call him a cab.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Quite happy to let Pelle go. A fully fit Austin, J-Rod & Long can lead the line between them, so in the big scheme of things, he won't be missed. You can't say he won't be missed. If we had sold him in Jan we probably wouldn't have finished 6th. Long has been in great form the last 6 months but we don't know it will last and havent seen how the new Manager will play. Jay Rod and Austin are unreliable fitness wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydenhampton Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 You can't say he won't be missed. If we had sold him in Jan we probably wouldn't have finished 6th. Long has been in great form the last 6 months but we don't know it will last and havent seen how the new Manager will play. Jay Rod and Austin are unreliable fitness wise. If you read my post again, you'll see I said that "in the big scheme of things", ie he is not irreplaceable. The lad's a fan favourite, if he stays then it'll go down well. However, let's be realistic here, if he were to exit stage right, would it devastate us? I'm going with "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 If you read my post again, you'll see I said that "in the big scheme of things", ie he is not irreplaceable. The lad's a fan favourite, if he stays then it'll go down well. However, let's be realistic here, if he were to exit stage right, would it devastate us? I'm going with "no". Nobody is irreplaceable so its a bit of a pointless comment to hide behind. I think people are a bit wishful thinking if they think it would have little impact to sell Pelle and rely on Long, Austin and Jay Rod which is what you initially suggested. To say you would be "happy" to let him go is strange considering his quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydenhampton Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 I think people are a bit wishful thinking if they think it would have little impact to sell Pelle and rely on Long, Austin and Jay Rod which is what you initially suggested. You are kidding, right? Have you seen Shane Long since he established himself back in the first team? I'd pick him over Pelle anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 You are kidding, right? Have you seen Shane Long since he established himself back in the first team? I'd pick him over Pelle anyday. Yes but he is one player. We will play nearly 50 games next season so you need more than two central strikers (Long and Austin) especially as Austin has an iffy fitness record. Its a squad game where good players put pressure on others to perform. There is no financial benefit to being "happy" to lose Pelle so what is the benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Yes. We should not even consider selling either of them until January. Pelle should also be offered a 2-year contract. He deserves it. We should try to persuade Wanyama to leave and hang onto him as long as possible but if it looks like the right thing to do and he is itching to leave, sell him in the January window. There is no need whatsoever to sell them now and certainly not to Premier League rivals. To do so, would be pure greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Edit: that should read ' not to leave' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 The idea of keeping players for `one more season' but allowing them to go on a bosman is wonderful except that when they do go the following season you still need to replace them, but you don't have a big hefty pile of cash on your pocket in which to do so. I hate to say it, but in the long run its financial suicide to sign players for millions and then allow to leave for nothing. If we want to make steady progress you just can't do that and we won't. That said if we don't get reasonable offers (I'm looking at you Levy) then we wont allow them out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 I'd like to think that both Victor and Graziano are smart enough to wait for us to appoint a new manager before deciding what they want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Each position in the EPL next season is worth about £2.5m. For that alone, I would not expect Southampton to accept anything less than about £20m for Wanyama. Maybe more for spurs Liverpool, Everton etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Straight yes or no vote amongst Saintsweb fan base Should we keep Pelle and Wanyama Next season and risk them both leaving on free transfers? Mods add a poll to this if you wish we could do......out of legal spite ......but we'd get better value (for new players) by using today's valuations instead of the £0 we'd get next summer. .....a bit like cutting off your ***** because you have ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Straight yes or no vote amongst Saintsweb fan base Should we keep Pelle and Wanyama Next season and risk them both leaving on free transfers? Mods add a poll to this if you wish we could do......out of legal spite ......but we'd get better value (for buying new players) by using today's valuations instead of the £0 we'd get next summer. .....a bit like cutting off your ***** because you have ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Each position in the EPL next season is worth about £2.5m. For that alone, I would not expect Southampton to accept anything less than about £20m for Wanyama. Maybe more for spurs Liverpool, Everton etc.... Well you're going to be disappointed then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 26 June, 2016 Share Posted 26 June, 2016 Yes. We should not even consider selling either of them until January. Pelle should also be offered a 2-year contract. He deserves it. We should try to persuade Wanyama to leave and hang onto him as long as possible but if it looks like the right thing to do and he is itching to leave, sell him in the January window. There is no need whatsoever to sell them now and certainly not to Premier League rivals. To do so, would be pure greed. This applies even more to our star player, Mane, who still has 2 years left on his contract and is still improving, especially after the club's PR leaked that he wanted to stay now that Koeman has left. They can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 so now it's just Pelle left to decide his future. With Wanyama already history ......and Mane about to join the Liverhampton exiles......what will happen to Graziano now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 so now it's just Pelle left to decide his future. With Wanyama already history ......and Mane about to join the Liverhampton exiles......what will happen to Graziano now ? I suppose it depends who you listen to - assuming the club haven't offered him a new deal, I can't foresee us wanting to lose him for nothing next summer so I'm assuming we are actively looking to sell. We can't afford to lose many more IMO. I expect this to pick up speed as soon as the Italian euro campaign ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 I suppose it depends who you listen to - assuming the club haven't offered him a new deal, I can't foresee us wanting to lose him for nothing next summer so I'm assuming we are actively looking to sell. We can't afford to lose many more IMO. I expect this to pick up speed as soon as the Italian euro campaign ends. .....or if they win the thing ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 27 June, 2016 Share Posted 27 June, 2016 so now it's just Pelle left to decide his future. And Tadic. Then we have named the 5 who apparently wanted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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