Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 13 June, 2016 Share Posted 13 June, 2016 It was Ronald who was talking about him being told for a new deal. I wonder if a change of manager will brin a change of approach? I'd keep him at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 13 June, 2016 Share Posted 13 June, 2016 Bog-standard answer I know, but Pellè has said he would talk about his future after the Euros: http://nos.nl/ek2016/artikel/2110966-pelle-ik-moet-feyenoord-en-koeman-bedanken.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 13 June, 2016 Share Posted 13 June, 2016 that was a beautiful strike by Pelle. Can think of plenty of strikers who would flub that up. I hope we don't shoo him out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 (edited) If we get rid of one of our best strikers, and Italy's number 9, then our board is more clueless than we give them credit for. Edited 14 June, 2016 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Pelle looked every inch a traditional no 9 last night! Good movement, great hold up play and not afraid to miss! Shame he is hit or miss for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 No, most people were pretty happy with Rasiak and were a bit miffed when Burley dropped him. It was very much like this situation plenty of users supported him and plenty slated him. Pelle gets some unfair criticism basically because he's not as good as a 30million pound centre forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Pelle looked every inch a traditional no 9 last night! Good movement, great hold up play and not afraid to miss! Shame he is hit or miss for us All strikers are hit and miss to some extent - look at Lukaku's performance last night... and he's meant to be worth £65m!! Overall, Pelle's done a great job for Saints in the last 2 years and still looks like he's got at least a couple of good years in him. We should only let him go if we can get an equal or better replacement - and that doesn't mean hoping that Austin and/or Rodriguez get fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 If we get rid of one of our best strikers, and Italy's number 9, then our board is more clueless than we give them credit for. Especially as, and this is the crucial bit, he doesn't want to leave and we have a player who WANTS to stay ... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Especially as, and this is the crucial bit, he doesn't want to leave and we have a player who WANTS to stay ... ! Do we know this for sure? Frankly I'm not sure I believe a single thing any player/manager says any more. If he's offered more money elsewhere he'll probably be threatening to go on strike to get away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Do we know this for sure? Frankly I'm not sure I believe a single thing any player/manager says any more. If he's offered more money elsewhere he'll probably be threatening to go on strike to get away If you knew what he was offered in the January transfer window by a Chinese team, you wouldn't be saying that. Let's just say the annual salary (plus a 4yr contract) puts Koeman's Everton salary in the shade. By a LONG way. If he was solely about money, he wouldn't still be with us, that's for sure. He feels he has at least 2 good seasons in the Premier League left in him and wants to stay in this league (not return to Italy, as keeps being suggested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 If you knew what he was offered in the January transfer window by a Chinese team, you wouldn't be saying that. Let's just say the annual salary (plus a 4yr contract) puts Koeman's Everton salary in the shade. By a LONG way. If he was solely about money, he wouldn't still be with us, that's for sure. He feels he has at least 2 good seasons in the Premier League left in him and wants to stay in this league (not return to Italy, as keeps being suggested). I for one, want to keep him around, even with his little strops when someone doesn't pass to him Not many players want to remain loyal to a club, we should keep those that want to be and still have something to offer, a no-brainer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 If you knew what he was offered in the January transfer window by a Chinese team, you wouldn't be saying that. Let's just say the annual salary (plus a 4yr contract) puts Koeman's Everton salary in the shade. By a LONG way. If he was solely about money, he wouldn't still be with us, that's for sure. He feels he has at least 2 good seasons in the Premier League left in him and wants to stay in this league (not return to Italy, as keeps being suggested). In this case we would be bonkers to let him go to a PL rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 He feels he has at least 2 good seasons in the Premier League left in him and wants to stay in this league (not return to Italy, as keeps being suggested). I don't see any drop off in sharpness this season, nor any reason he can't continue doing what he has been doing for two more seasons. Yes he goes through periods when things don't go well, but he leads the line well and offers a good alternative to the pace of Long. I worry about Austin's fitness, so allowing him to leave would be a slight gamble IMO. With no genuine young striker coming through it must be worthwhile us keeping Pelle at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640823/Southampton-set-Graziano-Pelle-target-Frank-Boer-manager-s-job.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640823/Southampton-set-Graziano-Pelle-target-Frank-Boer-manager-s-job.html Cheers for that. I think this is worth a link too.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640007/Graziano-Pelle-fires-Italy-Euro-2016-win-Belgium-model-girlfriend-Viktoria-Vargas-poses-blow-doll-striker.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Cheers for that. I think this is worth a link too.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640007/Graziano-Pelle-fires-Italy-Euro-2016-win-Belgium-model-girlfriend-Viktoria-Vargas-poses-blow-doll-striker.html TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 PELLE ATTRACTING ATTENTION Following his goalscoring exploits in Italy's Euro 2016 opening-round victory against Belgium, speculation surrounding Southampton striker Graziano Pelle has grown. Juventus are long-term suitors for the Saints forward but, following Italy's victory in Lyon, AC Milan are now also thought to be chasing Pelle. But could the 30-year-old remain in the Premier League? Well, Sky Sport Italy claim West Ham and Everton, now managed by former Saints boss Ronald Koeman, have been alerted to the Italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640823/Southampton-set-Graziano-Pelle-target-Frank-Boer-manager-s-job.html Still not sure where this 'Pelle does not have a good personal relationship with Koeman' idea comes from. Yesterday after his goal he even explicitly thanked Koeman on Dutch television for all he's done for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640823/Southampton-set-Graziano-Pelle-target-Frank-Boer-manager-s-job.html Thanks, that's what I wanted to see. I like reading the sort of stuff that I like to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Still not sure where this 'Pelle does not have a good personal relationship with Koeman' idea comes from. Yesterday after his goal he even explicitly thanked Koeman on Dutch television for all he's done for him. But that was when he knew that Ron was going. Cheers for that. I think this is worth a link too.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3640007/Graziano-Pelle-fires-Italy-Euro-2016-win-Belgium-model-girlfriend-Viktoria-Vargas-poses-blow-doll-striker.html Hmm, Ocean Village has changed a lot since I was last there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 Pelle looked every inch a traditional no 9 last night! Good movement, great hold up play and not afraid to miss! Shame he is hit or miss for us Tbf he was generally given more space to score by Belgium than he usually has had against tight Premier League defences. But he certainly played brilliantly last night. We gotta keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 14 June, 2016 Share Posted 14 June, 2016 But that was when he knew that Ron was going. Hmm, Ocean Village has changed a lot since I was last there. The pic of her derriere on the balcony and the video below it were definitely taken in Dubai, not far from @dubaisaints haunt is. Dammit how did we not get an invite!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 15 June, 2016 Share Posted 15 June, 2016 The pic of her derriere on the balcony and the video below it were definitely taken in Dubai, not far from @dubaisaints haunt is. Dammit how did we not get an invite!! Daily star reporting Pelle to Chelsea with bookies making the statement it's happening!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 15 June, 2016 Share Posted 15 June, 2016 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/522898/Graziano-Pelle-Chelsea-Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 June, 2016 Share Posted 15 June, 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/06/14/report-southampton-striker-graziano-pelle-unlikely-to-move-to-ev/ Pelle not keen in Everton apparently...( unless they throw loads of money at him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Pelle best striker in the Euros? Now to see Fonte best defender in the Euros tomorrow! Pelle = Saints legend. Please Les, don't sell him. It's not only about the money. to contrast his good performance the other night, he was woeful today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Yeah have to admit he was really poor today but in fairness to him, that was more down to the team around him. Italy sat right back in that game. He had zero service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Yeah have to admit he was really poor today but in fairness to him, that was more down to the team around him. Italy sat right back in that game. He had zero service. he offered zero movement as per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 to contrast his good performance the other night, he was woeful today The enevitable comment appears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 After watching him last night we really shouldn't sell him. Brings other options, was interesting that whilst Italy didn't lump it to them they always had that extra out ball to him to keep Spain guessing. He just bullied Pique and Ramos on quite a few occasions and brought people into play so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 He was fantastic...the spanish centre backs got a right going over.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Still wouldn't have an issue with selling him at his age, ideally to an Italian club though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 He was fantastic...the spanish centre backs got a right going over.. Pelle is and has always been a great asset for Saints. I don't understand his critics at all. Its how you use him and how you pace him that counts ~ and who you use him against. Quite clearly he needs resting as he cannot do three matches in a week at full gas but that's why we have Charlie Austin in particular. At his best, when used correctly, he is world class unplayable - as Real Madrid and Barcelona centre backs Ramos and Pique found out last night. His combination play with the skilful fleet footed Eder was VERY encouraging for any Saints fan to see. For Eder substitute Shane Long Or Jay Rod or Nathan Redmond or Tadic and you can see how that could be an effective pairing next season, IF we want or need to play that way. It may well suit us to play more mobile forwards in some matches though - and we can also play that way as the latter part of last season showed - and very effectively too. Mane going reduces that so i hope Redmond or a resurgent Jay rod or a n other can fit in that gap playing with Shane up top. This augurs well for the new manager as we have got the personnel in the squad to show this flexibility in how we set up our offensive line up. Some clubs are one dimensional but at Saints we have got multiple ways to set up our attack ~ for as long as we keep Pelle with us. Lose Pelle and we do not have a like for like replacement with his qualities. So, I would be very sorry to see Pelle leave if it meant we reduced our attacking flexibility. Put it this way - France have Giroud, Germany have Gomez, Belgium have Lukaku and Italy have Pelle - what's the common denominator that sets them apart from Wales, Poland, Portugal, Iceland (!) - that these are probably the four best teams left in the tournament and all, despite being very much "footballing" teams, have a big front guy n the squad who usually starts and who has strong technical skills to bring his (more?) skillful more mobile colleagues into play in dangerous areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkou Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Pelle is and has always been a great asset for Saints. I don't understand his critics at all. Its how you use him and how you pace him that counts ~ and who you use him against. Quite clearly he needs resting as he cannot do three matches in a week at full gas but that's why we have Charlie Austin in particular. At his best, when used correctly, he is world class unplayable - as Real Madrid and Barcelona centre backs Ramos and Pique found out last night. His combination play with the skilful fleet footed Eder was VERY encouraging for any Saints fan to see. For Eder substitute Shane Long Or Jay Rod or Nathan Redmond or Tadic and you can see how that could be an effective pairing next season, IF we want or need to play that way. It may well suit us to play more mobile forwards in some matches though - and we can also play that way as the latter part of last season showed - and very effectively too. Mane going reduces that so i hope Redmond or a resurgent Jay rod or a n other can fit in that gap playing with Shane up top. This augurs well for the new manager as we have got the personnel in the squad to show this flexibility in how we set up our offensive line up. Some clubs are one dimensional but at Saints we have got multiple ways to set up our attack ~ for as long as we keep Pelle with us. Lose Pelle and we do not have a like for like replacement with his qualities. So, I would be very sorry to see Pelle leave if it meant we reduced our attacking flexibility. Put it this way - France have Giroud, Germany have Gomez, Belgium have Lukaku and Italy have Pelle - what's the common denominator that sets them apart from Wales, Poland, Portugal, Iceland (!) - that these are probably the four best teams left in the tournament and all, despite being very much "footballing" teams, have a big front guy n the squad who usually starts and who has strong technical skills to bring his (more?) skillful more mobile colleagues into play in dangerous areas. Far far too sensible/knowledgeable a post for this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 He was fantastic...the spanish centre backs got a right going over.. And they're the main CBs at Barcelona and Real Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 And they're the main CBs at Barcelona and Real Madrid. Yep, two of the best in europe.. Where is Batman.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 I'd be happy for Pelle to stay (why wouldn't anyone be?) he is a very good CF on his day. Looking at from the clubs point of view though he isn't getting any younger and has one year on his contract left. He is probably looking for one more good contract before the twilight of his career but I'm not sure that saints will feel that he is worth it so I can see him moving on but I'd be more than happy if he stayed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 It would be a surprise if Southampton let Pelle go after such a performance at the Euros. I'd like to think there will be a new contract waiting for him when he gets back. What a buy he's proved to be for £8m, Compare his return on that fee to the £49m that Man City paid for Sterling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Don't want him to leave but would never begrudge him a big money move back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Read a link that Puel likes to play with 2 up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Don't want him to leave but would never begrudge him a big money move back home. I feel that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 28 June, 2016 Share Posted 28 June, 2016 Is Redmond more of a winger than an out-and-out striker? If so, he (& Tadic) would be better than Mane at feeding Pelle/JRod/Austin + whoever comes in to replace Mane. Hopefully Pelle will stay for at least one more season, high on his Euro performances. I love the comparison with Sterling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 Pelle could win the golden boot!!! Germany have never beaten Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 Be sad to see him go, but happy for him to head to Italy. How could you begrudge him. Give me a reason to pay more attention to Juve again as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 If he does go, he's added a god couple of million Euros to the asking price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 Especially as, and this is the crucial bit, he doesn't want to leave and we have a player who WANTS to stay ... ! These matters always have context. It was said when everything here was rosy and the idea of RK and others leaving was never even mooted. It's a different ball-game now, Conte has extracted more from Graziano than our coaches ever did and a possible move to Chelsea might even be on the cards. It is if you will a modern day Lambert story, an unknown from the lower echelons of the Italian league turned into an international at Saints but with a different ending. I want him to stay but doubt he will with the current mood in the camp, exodus of the big rats and an unknown manager. What's to stay for from his point of view... oh and he is now playing in a 'foreign' country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 These matters always have context. It was said when everything here was rosy and the idea of RK and others leaving was never even mooted. It's a different ball-game now, Conte has extracted more from Graziano than our coaches ever did and a possible move to Chelsea might even be on the cards. It is if you will a modern day Lambert story, an unknown from the lower echelons of the Italian league turned into an international at Saints but with a different ending. I want him to stay but doubt he will with the current mood in the camp, exodus of the big rats and an unknown manager. What's to stay for from his point of view... oh and he is now playing in a 'foreign' country. Well that was a fairly modern day story too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 These matters always have context. It was said when everything here was rosy and the idea of RK and others leaving was never even mooted. It's a different ball-game now, Conte has extracted more from Graziano than our coaches ever did and a possible move to Chelsea might even be on the cards. It is if you will a modern day Lambert story, an unknown from the lower echelons of the Italian league turned into an international at Saints but with a different ending. I want him to stay but doubt he will with the current mood in the camp, exodus of the big rats and an unknown manager. What's to stay for from his point of view... oh and he is now playing in a 'foreign' country. London would be very appealing to him, I'm sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 I wouldn't begrudge him a move back to Italy, especially to Juventus (and doubt the club could stop him) but if that wasn't on the cards I'd offer him a new contract and certainly try to prevent him going to Stoke or Everton. The more we can do to sell our players outside the prem the better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 29 June, 2016 Share Posted 29 June, 2016 Lazio apparently. Replacement for Klose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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