saint77 Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 Because some people don't understand football and don't appreciate what he brings. Exactly this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable I wish the idiots at the club would take note of this post which is completely spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Totally and wholeheartedly agree. He has always shown great passion and commitment to the club. We are always looking for heroes and club stalwarts yet people want Pelle moved on and moan about Davis and Warde Prowse.[/quote Except when he flounces out of training in a huff after being told off for not trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-close-completing-e40m-transfer-deal/? A bit of a sketchy report... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-close-completing-e40m-transfer-deal/? A bit of a sketchy report... I expect he will be taller than the average player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/esclusiva-tmw-criscitiello-pelle-vicino-l-accordo-con-lo-shandong-851395 He is getting closer to land in China for Graziano Pellè. As learned from Michele Criscitiello The center of Southampton is in fact close to an agreement with the Chinese club Shandong has prepared for him an offer mind-boggling. Looms a deal worth around 40 million between club and player, which could give the court a number of European clubs to accept the proposal of the Chinese team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/esclusiva-tmw-criscitiello-pelle-vicino-l-accordo-con-lo-shandong-851395 If it's China, we are likely getting our money back and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Darren Lewis of the Mirror saying £13m for Pellè. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Darren Lewis of the Mirror saying £13m for Pellè. The tweet Ivan is referring too: Darren Lewis @MirrorDarren Southampton and Italy striker Graziano Pelle is closing in on a £13million move to China. Player wants the move. More @MirrorFootball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Jinan (capital of Shandong) is bit of a sh*thole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 £13 mil sounds a bit cheap for Chinese market... ? Weren't Watford offered 38 for Ighalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 £13 mil sounds a bit cheap for Chinese market... ? Weren't Watford offered 38 for Ighalo? Pelle has 1 year left on his deal & turns 31 in a few days. It's a fairly impressive fee. (I'd still keep him though!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Over a Shlong, Pelle's off to Shandong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 (edited) A China move would be miles better for us than losing him to another PL side. £13m a decent fee but slight concern at losing his and Mane's goals in one summer. Vital to keep Tadic now. Caveat: The Mirror usually just recycle foreign reports. Edited 8 July, 2016 by Slugger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I like pelle and everything and he has done great service for the team and scored some good goals but letting him go isn't about not appreciating him its us getting back to how we want to play. Can you imagine him being part of a high pressing, hard working team that breaks quickly ? I can't but I can imagine Shane doing that as that is what he does already. He was brought in to be the hold up man for runners and he has done that job but he has got less mobile each season. Time to say thanks and I hope your hair stays intact in the chinese humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I like pelle and everything and he has done great service for the team and scored some good goals but letting him go isn't about not appreciating him its us getting back to how we want to play. I know what you are saying Convict, but when you include Rickie as well, we've had a big target man as part of our DNA for years. If he does go to China, can you imagine what they have offered him? (Chelsea & Everton wouldn't be paying him peanuts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjimbo83 Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 He wanted to go to China in January, but we said no. Was always on the cards this summer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Looks like Bas Dost will be the replacement at around £7-8M. Which is pretty good business, a like for like player - realistically not as good as Pelle, but he's just turned 27. Forwards - Austin, Dost, Long - pretty good variety in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Looks like Bas Dost will be the replacement at around £7-8M. Which is pretty good business, a like for like player - realistically not as good as Pelle, but he's just turned 27. Forwards - Austin, Dost, Long - pretty good variety in that. J-Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Looks like Bas Dost will be the replacement at around £7-8M. Which is pretty good business, a like for like player - realistically not as good as Pelle, but he's just turned 27. Forwards - Austin, Dost, Long - pretty good variety in that. Needs an elusive Mane type player to be added otherwise looks a little short of quality if not effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Absolutely gutted if he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 J-Rod i see him more as a wide player coming in rather than up top alone. Tadic, JRod, Redmond +1 ideally in this group and an AMC and we should be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I think we have got splendid value for money out of Pelle however it is time to part ways. He has a dodgy knee and has the mobility of an out of service tank. It was clear when he played we invited opposition on to us and dropped off far too deep. Seems like CP likes to play a counter attacking style so we need quick players to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Would Pelle still be called up for the Italian team if he plays in the Chinese league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 The tweet Ivan is referring too: Darren Lewis @MirrorDarren Southampton and Italy striker Graziano Pelle is closing in on a £13million move to China. Player wants the move. More @MirrorFootball Can't say I see the club standing in his way to be honest. I'm ok with it only caveat being we have to replace with better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 The tweet Ivan is referring too: Darren Lewis @MirrorDarren Southampton and Italy striker Graziano Pelle is closing in on a £13million move to China. Player wants the move. More @MirrorFootball Here's the full article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/graziano-pelle-offered-125000-week-8379124? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Here's the full article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/graziano-pelle-offered-125000-week-8379124? Sounds like Agent talk smoking out an improved offer from a club/league he will actually be interested in. Will be very suprised if he actually goes to China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Here's the full article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/graziano-pelle-offered-125000-week-8379124? for £125,000/week for 3 years - he would definitely go, he's never made rockstar money and that would set him up for life - more so than he has already of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 J-Rod It remains to be seen. I think most fans are not holding their breath but will be pleasantly surprised if he does more than a few games and photoshoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14608031.Pelle_set_to_quit_Saints_for_China/?ref=twtrec £13m, no replacement likely according to the Echo. In fact, not a great deal of incomings at all really. A new RB and a Wanyama replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14608031.Pelle_set_to_quit_Saints_for_China/?ref=twtrec Looks to be happening - 13m but not actively seeking a replacement which worries me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 With fitness record of Jay Rod and Austin the idea of not getting replacement makes me concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I think pre season will show whether we need to replace. Failing that Sam G has to step up and grab his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 £5m profit on a soon-to-be 31-year-old Pellè with a dodgy knee and patchy goalscoring form (although a good overall return). I can't see how we should turn that down. Take the money and run but slightly concerned they don't think we need to buy a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I think pre season will show whether we need to replace. Failing that Sam G has to step up and grab his chance. Gallagher would have to have improved immeasurably in the last 2 months to be a PL quality player IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I think pre season will show whether we need to replace. Failing that Sam G has to step up and grab his chance. Possibility of replacing Italy's current number 9 with a player who couldn't get a game at MK Dons concerns me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 £5m profit on a soon-to-be 31-year-old Pellè with a dodgy knee and patchy goalscoring form (although a good overall return). I can't see how we should turn that down. Take the money and run but slightly concerned they don't think we need to buy a replacement. This. I thought we'd see a few more coming in. Replacing Sadio not exactly the easiest thing to do. Whilst not involved, squad would be stronger if Juanmi / Gaston were replaced with 1 player. Need a keeper too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Possibility of replacing Italy's current number 9 with a player who couldn't get a game at MK Dons concerns me Don't worry i think Ryan Seagar will be our Rashford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I can see it from the perspective of Austin/Rodriguez though. Going into this preseason you've got to assume they're behind Graziano and Shane, for the one central striker's position. Graziano goes, but if you buy in another one then those two are knocked down to 3rd and 4th and are left wondering if their future belongs here. Personally, if I was them and I saw another striker brought into the club this summer to start games then I'd start to question whether I should be instructing my agent to find me a new club. Hopefully, and I'm crossing everything, both of them will swerve major injuries or consistent niggles and if they do, I think it'll work out well for us. Slightly concerning if they both get laid up and we're reliant on just Shane and Sam G though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 If the Echo are spot on with this, I have to say, I'm starting to feel concerned for the first time this window. Not that we are letting Pelle go, but opting not to replace him is a very odd move? JRod has showed no glimpses that he is anywhere near the player he was, Austin has not been able to stay fit, and Gallagher isn't anywhere near good enough (if he was a signing rather than academy people would be slating him). Equally, I hardly see right back as a priority - it was fine the season just gone and both Cedric and Cuco should be better this year. Redmond is a great replacement for Juanmi, but for me we will now need a new striker, new winger, new powerful holding midfielder and probably a top AM as well, just to be back at the level we were last season, let alone improve as we have previously. Not sure where this apparent tightening of the belt chat is coming from but when there is more money than ever in the Prem, this would seem an odd and potentially foolish move. Caveat - we've been before, we like to do things quietly, let's judge in a few weeks time. Doesn't stop me starting to worry though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Don't worry i think Ryan Seagar will be our Rashford. Has he recovered from his injury yet? I remember he was on loan at Crewe when he suffered a cruciate injury in Feb and the loan was ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Don't worry i think Ryan Seagar will be our Rashford. He is injured long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 If we all think replacements are needed, do you not think the club and the professionals who work there know it or at least know what they are doing? Or is it just us amateurs who can see things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 He is injured long term. Yeah, Seager must be out for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 I can see it from the perspective of Austin/Rodriguez though. Going into this preseason you've got to assume they're behind Graziano and Shane, for the one central striker's position. Graziano goes, but if you buy in another one then those two are knocked down to 3rd and 4th and are left wondering if their future belongs here. Personally, if I was them and I saw another striker brought into the club this summer to start games then I'd start to question whether I should be instructing my agent to find me a new club. Hopefully, and I'm crossing everything, both of them will swerve major injuries or consistent niggles and if they do, I think it'll work out well for us. Slightly concerning if they both get laid up and we're reliant on just Shane and Sam G though. With European games and Jay Rod's ability to play wide there would be plenty of chances even with another striker. Especially with a new Manager with no historical tie to any of them. We are a 6th place PL team, in Europe, if theyare available and show they are good enough then they would play with Pelle here or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 If we all think replacements are needed, do you not think the club and the professionals who work there know it or at least know what they are doing? Or is it just us amateurs who can see things? How very dare you!!! To suggest such a thing is downright rude!!! If only others got it.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 With European games and Jay Rod's ability to play wide there would be plenty of chances even with another striker. Especially with a new Manager with no historical tie to any of them. We are a 6th place PL team, in Europe, if theyare available and show they are good enough then they would play with Pelle here or not. Hmm, I'd agree but there were several times in the past couple of seasons where Koeman just picked Pellè out of blind loyalty when he was awful. Let's not forget it was only when Pellè got injured that he actually gave Long a run of games and ended up having to stick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 So the club are going to gamble on Jrod and Austin staying fit Long having another season of his life and 2 kids (1 currently injured)? I'm not liking the sounds coming from the club these last few days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 July, 2016 Share Posted 8 July, 2016 Michiel Jongsma @JongsmaJongsma Feyenoord will receive 10 percent of any fee Graziano Pelle commands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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