simo Posted 19 February, 2017 Share Posted 19 February, 2017 Barca want Poch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 February, 2017 Share Posted 19 February, 2017 Barca want Poch! & does Poch wants VVD...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 February, 2017 Share Posted 19 February, 2017 Barca want Poch! In the Daily Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 19 February, 2017 Share Posted 19 February, 2017 Anyone would think you can prove white is black with statistics! I believe 63% of people believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 Interesting to se that Ronald is telling the media that he doesn't have a problem with Lukaku as he expects people to honour their contracts!!!!!. Interesting view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 he would have honoured his, we just wanted him to sign a new one and then effectively sacked him when he did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 Koeman would've stayed. Remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 Koeman would've stayed. Remember that. Yeah if we bent over backwards and let him do us up the ass. Every manager would have stayed if we were held to ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 Koeman would've stayed. Remember that. And I'm sure Everton will let Lukaku see out his contract.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 Yeah if we bent over backwards and let him do us up the ass. Every manager would have stayed if we were held to ransom. He only wanted to stay one more year and didn't want to sign an extension. That's his prerogative. I'm not a massive fan of how he left but some people think the club can do no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 March, 2017 Share Posted 16 March, 2017 He only wanted to stay one more year and didn't want to sign an extension. That's his prerogative. I'm not a massive fan of how he left but some people think the club can do no wrong. The club have a prerogative to not let managers go into the final year of their contract where they hold all the aces. They'd be utterly retarded to let that happen and they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 The club have a prerogative to not let managers go into the final year of their contract where they hold all the aces. They'd be utterly retarded to let that happen and they didn't. Yeah but that wasn't my point. People are making fun of Koemans comments referencing players/managers being loyal to their contracts. He was willing to see his out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Yeah but that wasn't my point. People are making fun of Koemans comments referencing players/managers being loyal to their contracts. He was willing to see his out. Well I will make fun of Koeman's comments because he is deflecting. Lukaku not honouring his current contract isn't the point at all, he has never suggested anything of the sort. The fact that he is unwilling to sign a new one because Everton are unlikely to ever achieve anything, despite their bluster about they are going to take the world by storm is the issue here, and Koeman responds to it by offering a strawman argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Did I say you personally? Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 (edited) Yeah but that wasn't my point. People are making fun of Koemans comments referencing players/managers being loyal to their contracts. He was willing to see his out. was he though? He fired his first agent after he told Everton Ronald wasn't interested and got his new agent to start negotiations with Everton. Koeman was happy to stay if no one else was offering him a job which isn't exactly respecting your contract and more like pragmatism. Edited 17 March, 2017 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Yeah but that wasn't my point. People are making fun of Koemans comments referencing players/managers being loyal to their contracts. He was willing to see his out. And you're moaning about people saying "the club can do no wrong". Well, what did they do wrong, exactly, being that letting Ronald Koeman go into the last year of his deal would have been pretty stupid thing to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Did I say you personally? Jesus Christ. Huh? What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 And you're moaning about people saying "the club can do no wrong". Well, what did they do wrong, exactly, being that letting Ronald Koeman go into the last year of his deal would have been pretty stupid thing to do? Exactly this, he wouldn't have seen out his contract with us when the huge £6m offer from Everton came. He didn't sign a new contract because it put him in a better position to move if an offer came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Well I will make fun of Koeman's comments because he is deflecting. Lukaku not honouring his current contract isn't the point at all, he has never suggested anything of the sort. The fact that he is unwilling to sign a new one because Everton are unlikely to ever achieve anything, despite their bluster about they are going to take the world by storm is the issue here, and Koeman responds to it by offering a strawman argument. Be fair, Koeman is well on the way to becoming the Dutch David Moyes. Everton haven't got a glass ceiling, more of a glass bungee (which they invented)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 I still recon the next manager at Arsenal will be Koeman.All the Everton talk about new stadiums and big ambitions,well they are all there at Arsenal the club just need the right direction and its not from Wenger.Do you think he would have stayed next year at ours now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 (edited) Exactly this, he wouldn't have seen out his contract with us when the huge £6m offer from Everton came. He didn't sign a new contract because it put him in a better position to move if an offer came in. He's got his move to a top eight club who are 'living in the past' according to their best player, who should know! It was a very strange move and made bacause no big clubs wanted him..... He has made his bed and it hasn't done him any favours when big clubs look at him now.... I expect him get a bigger club at some point but not to succeed. I really cannot see one of the big four or five taking a punt on him here..... Koeman would have failed miserably here this season and he knew it which is why he ran off to the first bolt hole he could find lording them as a 'big club' yeah right ok, what ever you say ..... Edited 17 March, 2017 by captainchris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 I still recon the next manager at Arsenal will be Koeman.All the Everton talk about new stadiums and big ambitions,well they are all there at Arsenal the club just need the right direction and its not from Wenger.Do you think he would have stayed next year at ours now ? Strange, but I think another year with us would have made him more attractive to Arsenal or Barcelona than he is now. Another finish between 6-8th with us would have been noted and be seen as an achievement. Instead of which he's likely to finish 7th with Everton. Is that such an "achievement" ? They are afterall a "big" club in many people's eyes, and he's had money to spend and a player such as Lukaku at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Seems Ronnie thinks you cant let someone just see out the last year of their contract... Ronald Koeman admits Ross Barkley will be sold this summer if he does not sign a new contract at Everton. But Barkley's situation is different to Romelu because next season will be the last year of his contract. "You make decisions at the end of the season and you sign a new contract or you sell the player. There is no 'ultimatum' but that's *business - and the player needs to *understand this." http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/10804474/ronald-koeman-tells-ross-barkley-to-sign-new-everton-deal-or-be-sold-this-summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Seems Ronnie thinks you cant let someone just see out the last year of their contract... Ronald Koeman admits Ross Barkley will be sold this summer if he does not sign a new contract at Everton. "You make decisions at the end of the season and you sign a new contract or you sell the player. There is no 'ultimatum' but that's *business - and the player needs to *understand this." http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/10804474/ronald-koeman-tells-ross-barkley-to-sign-new-everton-deal-or-be-sold-this-summer RK obviously learnt this at The Les Reed School of Economics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 And if the player doesn't want to go? What then Ronald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 And if the player doesn't want to go? What then Ronald? What player doesnt want to go to a bigger club and earn more money? A young English midfielder.... All the top teams in England will be interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 What player doesnt want to go to a bigger club and earn more money? A young English midfielder.... All the top teams in England will be interested in him. Because at the end of his contract going on a free he negotiates his own terms and gets a massive signing on fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Not sure if there would be that much interest in Barkley. All the top 6 have similar but better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Huh? What are you talking about? Sorry pal I read your post completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 March, 2017 Share Posted 17 March, 2017 Alex Mcleish: 46% win rate and nine trophies. Take that. He'd be a better manager of Take That than he would be as a football one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 March, 2017 Share Posted 18 March, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/mar/18/romelu-lukakus-ambitiousness-is-the-same-as-ronald-koemans Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 April, 2017 Share Posted 9 April, 2017 Here's an interesting little snippet for you all... I've been visiting family this weekend and saw my 14 year old nephew who is in the Everton academy. I asked him what he thought of Koeman. He said he is undoubtedly a good manager, but he shows zero interest in the academy. The previous managers in his time there (Moyes and Martinez) were frequently seen around the training ground and always took time to get to know the kids, but apparently Koeman never visits and doesn't even bother to say hello if he passes them in a corridor. Fits with what we already knew about his ignorance of our own academy while he was with us. I told my nephew not to worry because he will no doubt have already moved on again by the time he's old enough to sign a pro contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 9 April, 2017 Share Posted 9 April, 2017 Holgate (20), Pennington (21), Davies (18 ) Calvert - Lewis (20), Lookman (20) and Kenny (20) all part of the Everton starting 11 or bench today. If they are good enough they play for Koeman, he's proved that. Think he might object to being told to play academy players before he thinks they are ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 9 April, 2017 Share Posted 9 April, 2017 Holgate (20), Pennington (21), Davies (18 ) Calvert - Lewis (20), Lookman (20) and Kenny (20) all part of the Everton starting 11 or bench today. If they are good enough they play for Koeman, he's proved that. Think he might object to being told to play academy players before he thinks they are ready? Almost as if they have a lot of injuries... http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 9 April, 2017 Share Posted 9 April, 2017 He's publicly told Barkley either sign a new contract or be sold in the summer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 Holgate (20), Pennington (21), Davies (18 ) Calvert - Lewis (20), Lookman (20) and Kenny (20) all part of the Everton starting 11 or bench today. If they are good enough they play for Koeman, he's proved that. Think he might object to being told to play academy players before he thinks they are ready? None of Holgate, Calvert-Lewin or Lookman came through the Everton academy, and Pennington is 22. Pennington has only been playing because of Coleman's broken leg and now Williams' suspension. The only one of those he's really placed real faith in, in terms of a proper run in the side, is Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 None of Holgate, Calvert-Lewin or Lookman came through the Everton academy, and Pennington is 22. Pennington has only been playing because of Coleman's broken leg and now Williams' suspension. The only one of those he's really placed real faith in, in terms of a proper run in the side, is Davies. Dont spoil his poorly "veiled" pop at the club he claims to support but just trolls about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 Textbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 Holgate (20), Pennington (21), Davies (18 ) Calvert - Lewis (20), Lookman (20) and Kenny (20) all part of the Everton starting 11 or bench today. If they are good enough they play for Koeman, he's proved that. Think he might object to being told to play academy players before he thinks they are ready? Signed from Charlton for circa £10 million, is hardly an Everton academy product ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 Signed from Charlton for circa £10 million, is hardly an Everton academy product ! Got a few bites though, so mission accomplished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 (edited) Got a few bites though, so mission accomplished Yeah, always a joy to watch a master of his craft For the sake of clarity : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ademola_Lookman Edited 10 April, 2017 by eurosaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 My point was about playing youngsters not necessarily academy players. The average age of our starting 11 has stayed the same from last season = 26 I'm all for bashing Koeman but...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 10 April, 2017 Share Posted 10 April, 2017 Got a few bites though, so mission accomplished Just important to clarify things so that impressionable people don't see stuff like that and believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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