WealdSaint Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Worth a Fiver on first prem manager to be sacked next season me thinks ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Just been pondering the topics of ambition, investment and success: in the context of the EPL. Which of the non-traditional 'top' teams have 'spent' their way to success in recent years? Man City most recently perhaps...and.....ummmmm, I'm struggling. Chelsea going back some few years of course. And in the same timeframe, which clubs have overspent and imploded? It's a far longer list I'm sure. A half-sensible Evertonian would be quietly excited; and with a healthy slice of cynicism thrown in. It's going to be interesting how things play out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Meh, as long players aren't poached it'll be interesting to see who the replacement is. Hopefully someone who takes cup competitions a bit more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Good ridance..... We march on! Go and join the bin dippers and flop you will always be remembered for being a snake... As for Everton a step up? Get in the real world we all know Saints will finish higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I appreciate what he did for us here but I won't wish him luck. I can understand wanting to make more money, we all want to do that. But the way he has decided to leave and have two agents playing the field is very disrespectful to us. Nothing more than a money grabber and shows what he said was nothing but sound bites. I won't do the whole "he will be sacked by xmas" like some did with Mopo as i dont think he will. It is now over to Ralph and Les to sort it out and show we are ambitious. That the talk of wanting to get into the top 4 was not a load of ********. We need someone in who commands respect, has experience at the top level and is a proven success. Not someone like Howe who currently isnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Glad that's over. On a side note, I've never in all my life known a set of fans sign up to another clubs main board to tell them just how big they are etc etc. It's really sad to see and it's reminiscent of a club that is firmly in the shadow of it's nearest rival, a rival that cares more about a team that play up the m62 than them. Don't think we had one liverpool, Utd or Spurs fan join to tell how massive they were. As mad is it may sound, Everton fans seem worse than West Ham fans now. This. It's quite pathetic really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Unfussed, wasn't a fan but prepared to admit he did a good job post New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I do find the desire to sign up to other team's forums a bit bizarre, it was momentous (and hassle) enough for me joining this one! Perhaps the most farcicle thing I will take away from this though is the willingness of people (at the current time, Everton fans, but by no means limited to them), to link ambition to money or wealth. If the owners of Rochdale aren't throwing millions at new facilities, players and managers, that doesn't mean they aren't ambitious for what they can achieve, it just means they either don't have millions to spend, or they don't think it is the way to go about things. It's laughable that a club can become ambitious through the presence of a wealthy backer. All that's changed is the relative ease with which it can achieve those ambitions, and it certainly shouldn't belittle the aims and targets that more budget-constrained clubs have. It's not just condescending, it's damn right illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Only club relevant there is Liverpool.... Who cares about Everton.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 He'll be taking even more holidays when he finds out what a sh1t hole he's going to have to live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Glad that's over. On a side note, I've never in all my life known a set of fans sign up to another clubs main board to tell them just how big they are etc etc. I have. These fans also wear blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Unbelievable really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 (edited) No. An unverified story in the papers is not a sign of ambition, taking your manager is though. If you want to pay a manager who will not commit to more than one year 6m per annum and pay us 5 m to take away what is effectively a lame manager who was going in 12 months anyway, I call that stupidity not ambition. Let's hope he stays more than a year with you. The problem is he will only stay if he fails at your place not really ideal for an ambitious club s it? Edited 7 June, 2016 by Saint Without a Halo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Thanks for getting us into Europe, Ron. Now enjoy counting your cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I know it's inevitable but he hasn't actually joined them yet just been granted permission by us to speak to them as compensation package has been agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Sideways move at best purely because they've thrown money at him, that's what over £13 million for one year of a manager. And people thought Shane Long was over priced. Those Everton fans are frankly laughable, big club? big clubs win trophies, play champions league football and play in front of 50-60k every week. Everton are none of those, they are middling club that's been going nowhere for 20 years. That's probably why they are all on here being all condescending, nothing else worth shouting about their club, so their greatest achievement in about 10 years is poaching another clubs manager. Feel sorry for them to be honest, but I'll enjoy finishing above them AGAIN next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I think if either is offered terms that are appealing to them they'll force a move. As I said, I think we'll have other targets but if they don't work out we might move for one or two of your lads. Haven't seen much of Ward-Prowse but he might also be of interest. I think cloud and cuckoo come to mind. Spurs thought that and nobody was allowed to go to Spurs. It will be the same for Everton. Anybody but Everton. Of course there could be exceptions £30m for Ward Prowse would just compensate us and maybe £20m for Pelle would be good value. They are really vital parts of our team and if they need a lift I'll drive them up myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 How on earth did we get them to fork out £5m when he is only paid £2.5m a year? Footballers can buy themselves out of their contracts once in the last year (for the amount they would have been paid), you'd think managers would be able to do that as well. That has perked me up a bit. Hope we have someone who isn't on the short list knocking around the interweb (as it doesn't inspire me much) that will inspire players to stay and join the continued route upwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 It seems Everton are celebrating taking our manager. Something they can now do with their investment. I think that really sums up how far we've come, that a reasonably big, you know, top 10 sort of club like Everton celebrate taking our manager, when very recently we were in league 1 and the championship. Amazing really, long may it continue. Next season will be amazing. Man Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and apparently even Everton all desperate to improve substantially. They can't all do it, they can't all sign everyone, they can't all beat everyone, and there still won't be any easy games. So we're guaranteed some hilarious failure and I bet one of Saints or West Ham or Leicester gatecrash that top 6 again. West Ham fans are just as gobby as Everton ones but at least they have European football to shout about. For all Everton's so called history they are just another mid table team. They're the Liverpool version of West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I think if either is offered terms that are appealing to them they'll force a move. As I said, I think we'll have other targets but if they don't work out we might move for one or two of your lads. Haven't seen much of Ward-Prowse but he might also be of interest. I think cloud and cuckoo come to mind. Spurs thought that and nobody was allowed to go to Spurs. It will be the same for Everton. Anybody but Everton. Of course there could be exceptions £30m for Ward Prowse would just compensate us and maybe £20m for Pelle would be good value. They are really vital parts of our team and if they need a lift I'll drive them up myself. Also Spurs are actually a step up, our players might have wanted to go there but we wouldn't let them! Might change now it's been a couple of years and Wanyama has 1 year left. Be shocked if any of our players would want to join Everton without European football, if they did want to it's for the money and would show them for who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wedge Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I don't think I'll ever encounter a group of fans with a greater superiority complex and who still feed off glories people under 30 weren't even born to witness. Patronising, deluded, cluster****s of a fanbase. All they have on us is a bloody expensive crystal ball. Sincerely hope I can troll the hell out of their forum throughout the next twelve months. Over entitled, arrogant morons. And breathe. Onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 No. An unverified story in the papers is not a sign of ambition, taking your manager is though. Taking Jose or pep would have been a sign of ambition. Taking a manager that has not broke into the top four really shows where your ambition is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Interesting. Is this a genuine ITK snippet? Yes he's spot on with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Seen loads of managers that I like come and go; Koeman certainly won't be the last! No hard feelings from me. Common isn't an elite manager by any stretch. He's a solid manager but absolutely nothing that we can't find elsewhere. Everton have paid us (laughably) handsomely for a guy that was gunna be leaving in the next 12 months. In a strange way, I think this could prove to be good for us as now we can attract a really good (perhaps better?) replacement as our stock is as high as it has ever been. For Koeman it's an interesting move. He was clearly backed into a corner by saints here. "Sign a contract or walk" was probably the nature of the conversation. Tough city to live in though. I'd say he will get a shock when he swaps his penthouse Ocean Village flat for Liverpool's equivalent. Oh and he better get his Hillsborough routine in check. His attendance will be required at the memorial service which appears to occur every other month in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Taking Jose or pep would have been a sign of ambition. Taking a manager that has not broke into the top four really shows where your ambition is at. You need more than money to get the Jose or Pep sort of manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 [ATTACH=CONFIG]2029[/ATTACH] Unbelievable really is that real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 (edited) Thanks for getting us into Europe, Ron. Now enjoy counting your cash.good luck to him,i would have been the same if they offered stupid money,we had 2 good years with him and before that ponchtino..the modern game no manager is going to stay at any club in the premier league more than a few years... i,m just suprised he chose everton thow despite their history.... i thought he would have chosen one of the big boys has his next move and i expected him to leave anyway in a years time . the only good thing cortese put in a system which keeps the club in the direction they want to go and i expect they already have a short list at saints identifing the next manager who fits the club system. Edited 7 June, 2016 by solentstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Jeremy Wilson @JWTelegraph Ronald Koeman talks still expected to go on for a few days but he does have permission from Southampton to speak with Everton ^ Well that shouldn't take too long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 You need more than money to get the Jose or Pep sort of manager. Exactly (not with a scouse accent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Now he's F****d off i can tell you that the reason for our slump before xmas was that Koeman took the opportunity (no cup games) to book a holiday and sack off training. In fact he constantly sacked off training to go and play golf in Portugal whenever he could. He gave the players that time off as well. The staff raised an eyebrow and were not v happy with that kind of discipline. Poch would have had them doing triple sessions and remaining focused in our most important fixture pile up. No wonder he left when we got European football...lacks ambition And yet Mané was dropped for being late for lunch or whatever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Seen loads of managers that I like come and go; Koeman certainly won't be the last! No hard feelings from me. Common isn't an elite manager by any stretch. He's a solid manager but absolutely nothing that we can't find elsewhere. Everton have paid us (laughably) handsomely for a guy that was gunna be leaving in the next 12 months. In a strange way, I think this could prove to be good for us as now we can attract a really good (perhaps better?) replacement as our stock is as high as it has ever been. For Koeman it's an interesting move. He was clearly backed into a corner by saints here. "Sign a contract or walk" was probably the nature of the conversation. Tough city to live in though. I'd say he will get a shock when he swaps his penthouse Ocean Village flat for Liverpool's equivalent. Oh and he better get his Hillsborough routine in check. His attendance will be required at the memorial service which appears to occur every other month in the city.i thought he would have stayed for one year before taking over at arsenal but good luck to him and liverpool is a great modern city and have lovely apartments facing the sea unlike the image people down south like to potray it as a wasteland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 We're a big club historically, I don't think that's in doubt. We have had two poor seasons in a row and, longer, gone almost thirty years without a league title. That's the reality, although one determined by poor owners. We now have an owner who identified Koeman as his preferred managerial appointment and quietly went ahead and got him in spite of many saying it wouldn't happen. As you'll be aware from your recent history in the lower leagues, things change. We at Everton honestly wish you all the best. No hostility intended at all. It was out in the papers as soon as Martinez had gone so how on earth is that "quietly". He uses the same dirty tactics as Levy...No class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 If the board handle this the right way (like when Poch left) it's more his loss than ours as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE STOP RESPONDING TO THESE CRETINS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Jeremy Wilson @JWTelegraph Ronald Koeman talks still expected to go on for a few days but he does have permission from Southampton to speak with Everton ^ Well that shouldn't take too long! Really? I love the pretence that we have now given him permission to talk to Everton. As if him an Everton talking through his agent isn't like real speaking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Unlikely you'll take VVD? Koeman gets more money and lots to spend, fair enough. But VVD wouldn't leave for Everton, he's probably already too good for us, let alone Everton. If he goes, and I imagine it'll be next summer not this, it'll be for big money and a much bigger club. We all said that about the manager and we have been touting him for Arsenal and Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 And yet Mané was dropped for being late for lunch or whatever it was. He didn't like mane whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 is that real? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 i thought he would have stayed for one year before taking over at arsenal but good luck to him and liverpool is a great modern city and have lovely apartments facing the sea unlike the image people down south like to potray it as a wasteland. TBH I think he thought he had taken saints as far as he could. I think even he was surprised how we finished this season. With his stock high and some club prepared to throw cash it him he probably decided to take it while it was on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Yep well that's worth a :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devo999 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 N A big club in the same way as Wolves Burnley Huddersfield etc are historically big clubs... I'm Sorry, I feel I have to reply on behalf of my Everton friend. You clearly don't understand the history of our club. Let me enlighten you with a few of the many facts about Everton. * Founder members of the Football League in 1888 * Founder members of the Premier League in 1992 * First club presented with the League Championship trophy * First club to be presented with League winners medals * First club to stage an FA Cup Final in 1894 * First English club to go on an overseas tour in 1905 * First club to build a purpose-built football stadium * First club to have a four-side stadium with two-tier stands * First club to have a stadium with a three-tier stand * First club to issue a regular match programme * First club to have a player score 60 league goals * First club to wear numbered shirts, 1-11 in 1933 * First club to install dugouts * First club to install floodlights * First club to install under soil heating * First club to play 4,000 top-flight games * First club to amass 5,000 league points * First club to play 100 seasons in the top flight * First British club to stage a World Cup semi-final * Have been in the top division of English football longer than ANY other side There are more trivial ones I could quote and I haven't mentioned titles or cups but you get the picture. This club has more History than any other club in the country and Everton fans are rightly proud of this fact. So to compare us to the likes of Wolves and Burnley is misguided and foolish. I will admit that the love of that history combined with 30 years of frustration and over excitement has led to some ill advised, condescending and downright nasty comments by some of my fellow supporters, but I am sure you will agree there has been an equal amount of vitriol on behalf of some of the Southampton fans. We all love our clubs and we want what's best for them but there is no need to turn it into a hate campaign. To clear up some other points made on this forum regarding the so called "ambition" of the club. As I see it, a site on the Mersey waterfront has been identified for a 55/60,000 seater stadium which with Everton's large fan base it will fill, together with a massive improvement in corporate revenue (which is nearly non existent at Goodison) and stadium naming rights will massively increase revenue for the club to be able to compete at a much higher level financially. Obviously the biggest resource is the fan-base and the new stadium. As for poaching managers, that's football. It happens. Personally I hope he doesn't go back for any of your players, Its not that they aren't any good but just that we would have to pay vastly over inflated prices. finally, before you say it, no I don't have a job as I am retired after working for the same company for 30 years. I went to my first match in 1971. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I'm Sorry, I feel I have to reply on behalf of my Everton friend. You clearly don't understand the history of our club. Let me enlighten you with a few of the many facts about Everton. * Founder members of the Football League in 1888 * Founder members of the Premier League in 1992 * First club presented with the League Championship trophy * First club to be presented with League winners medals * First club to stage an FA Cup Final in 1894 * First English club to go on an overseas tour in 1905 * First club to build a purpose-built football stadium * First club to have a four-side stadium with two-tier stands * First club to have a stadium with a three-tier stand * First club to issue a regular match programme * First club to have a player score 60 league goals * First club to wear numbered shirts, 1-11 in 1933 * First club to install dugouts * First club to install floodlights * First club to install under soil heating * First club to play 4,000 top-flight games * First club to amass 5,000 league points * First club to play 100 seasons in the top flight * First British club to stage a World Cup semi-final * Have been in the top division of English football longer than ANY other side There are more trivial ones I could quote and I haven't mentioned titles or cups but you get the picture. This club has more History than any other club in the country and Everton fans are rightly proud of this fact. So to compare us to the likes of Wolves and Burnley is misguided and foolish. I will admit that the love of that history combined with 30 years of frustration and over excitement has led to some ill advised, condescending and downright nasty comments by some of my fellow supporters, but I am sure you will agree there has been an equal amount of vitriol on behalf of some of the Southampton fans. We all love our clubs and we want what's best for them but there is no need to turn it into a hate campaign. To clear up some other points made on this forum regarding the so called "ambition" of the club. As I see it, a site on the Mersey waterfront has been identified for a 55/60,000 seater stadium which with Everton's large fan base it will fill, together with a massive improvement in corporate revenue (which is nearly non existent at Goodison) and stadium naming rights will massively increase revenue for the club to be able to compete at a much higher level financially. Obviously the biggest resource is the fan-base and the new stadium. As for poaching managers, that's football. It happens. Personally I hope he doesn't go back for any of your players, Its not that they aren't any good but just that we would have to pay vastly over inflated prices. finally, before you say it, no I don't have a job as I am retired after working for the same company for 30 years. I went to my first match in 1971. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Yawn. Everton's history is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Well that's that then. I'm sorry to see Erwin go :-( Me too. More upset by that than RK actually. Could be we've lost an excellent coach and an okay manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I'm Sorry, I feel I have to reply on behalf of my Everton friend. You clearly don't understand the history of our club. Let me enlighten you with a few of the many facts about Everton. * Founder members of the Football League in 1888 * Founder members of the Premier League in 1992 * First club presented with the League Championship trophy * First club to be presented with League winners medals * First club to stage an FA Cup Final in 1894 * First English club to go on an overseas tour in 1905 * First club to build a purpose-built football stadium * First club to have a four-side stadium with two-tier stands * First club to have a stadium with a three-tier stand * First club to issue a regular match programme * First club to have a player score 60 league goals * First club to wear numbered shirts, 1-11 in 1933 * First club to install dugouts * First club to install floodlights * First club to install under soil heating * First club to play 4,000 top-flight games * First club to amass 5,000 league points * First club to play 100 seasons in the top flight * First British club to stage a World Cup semi-final * Have been in the top division of English football longer than ANY other side There are more trivial ones I could quote and I haven't mentioned titles or cups but you get the picture. This club has more History than any other club in the country and Everton fans are rightly proud of this fact. So to compare us to the likes of Wolves and Burnley is misguided and foolish. I will admit that the love of that history combined with 30 years of frustration and over excitement has led to some ill advised, condescending and downright nasty comments by some of my fellow supporters, but I am sure you will agree there has been an equal amount of vitriol on behalf of some of the Southampton fans. We all love our clubs and we want what's best for them but there is no need to turn it into a hate campaign. To clear up some other points made on this forum regarding the so called "ambition" of the club. As I see it, a site on the Mersey waterfront has been identified for a 55/60,000 seater stadium which with Everton's large fan base it will fill, together with a massive improvement in corporate revenue (which is nearly non existent at Goodison) and stadium naming rights will massively increase revenue for the club to be able to compete at a much higher level financially. Obviously the biggest resource is the fan-base and the new stadium. As for poaching managers, that's football. It happens. Personally I hope he doesn't go back for any of your players, Its not that they aren't any good but just that we would have to pay vastly over inflated prices. finally, before you say it, no I don't have a job as I am retired after working for the same company for 30 years. I went to my first match in 1971. You forgot "and have done eff all for 30 years" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 well that's worth a :lol: Yep. What a thunderc u nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 Seen loads of managers that I like come and go; Koeman certainly won't be the last! No hard feelings from me. Common isn't an elite manager by any stretch. He's a solid manager but absolutely nothing that we can't find elsewhere. Everton have paid us (laughably) handsomely for a guy that was gunna be leaving in the next 12 months. In a strange way, I think this could prove to be good for us as now we can attract a really good (perhaps better?) replacement as our stock is as high as it has ever been. For Koeman it's an interesting move. He was clearly backed into a corner by saints here. "Sign a contract or walk" was probably the nature of the conversation. Tough city to live in though. I'd say he will get a shock when he swaps his penthouse Ocean Village flat for Liverpool's equivalent. Oh and he better get his Hillsborough routine in check. His attendance will be required at the memorial service which appears to occur every other month in the city. Given Saints have extracted £5 million compensation out of Everton, I doubt they had previously told RK "sign a contract extension or walk". But if they did, RK had every right to say "OK, I'll walk then". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 finally, before you say it, no I don't have a job as I am retired after working for the same company for 30 years. I went to my first match in 1971. I suppose someone in Liverpool has to work for the job centre...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I'm Sorry, I feel I have to reply on behalf of my Everton friend. You clearly don't understand the history of our club. Let me enlighten you with a few of the many facts about Everton. * Founder members of the Football League in 1888 * Founder members of the Premier League in 1992 * First club presented with the League Championship trophy * First club to be presented with League winners medals * First club to stage an FA Cup Final in 1894 * First English club to go on an overseas tour in 1905 * First club to build a purpose-built football stadium * First club to have a four-side stadium with two-tier stands * First club to have a stadium with a three-tier stand * First club to issue a regular match programme * First club to have a player score 60 league goals * First club to wear numbered shirts, 1-11 in 1933 * First club to install dugouts * First club to install floodlights * First club to install under soil heating * First club to play 4,000 top-flight games * First club to amass 5,000 league points * First club to play 100 seasons in the top flight * First British club to stage a World Cup semi-final * Have been in the top division of English football longer than ANY other side There are more trivial ones I could quote and I haven't mentioned titles or cups but you get the picture. This club has more History than any other club in the country and Everton fans are rightly proud of this fact. So to compare us to the likes of Wolves and Burnley is misguided and foolish. I will admit that the love of that history combined with 30 years of frustration and over excitement has led to some ill advised, condescending and downright nasty comments by some of my fellow supporters, but I am sure you will agree there has been an equal amount of vitriol on behalf of some of the Southampton fans. We all love our clubs and we want what's best for them but there is no need to turn it into a hate campaign. To clear up some other points made on this forum regarding the so called "ambition" of the club. As I see it, a site on the Mersey waterfront has been identified for a 55/60,000 seater stadium which with Everton's large fan base it will fill, together with a massive improvement in corporate revenue (which is nearly non existent at Goodison) and stadium naming rights will massively increase revenue for the club to be able to compete at a much higher level financially. Obviously the biggest resource is the fan-base and the new stadium. As for poaching managers, that's football. It happens. Personally I hope he doesn't go back for any of your players, Its not that they aren't any good but just that we would have to pay vastly over inflated prices. finally, before you say it, no I don't have a job as I am retired after working for the same company for 30 years. I went to my first match in 1971. Why are you on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 7 June, 2016 Share Posted 7 June, 2016 I'm Sorry, I feel I have to reply on behalf of my Everton friend. You clearly don't understand the history of our club. Let me enlighten you with a few of the many facts about Everton. * Founder members of the Football League in 1888 * Founder members of the Premier League in 1992 * First club presented with the League Championship trophy * First club to be presented with League winners medals * First club to stage an FA Cup Final in 1894 * First English club to go on an overseas tour in 1905 * First club to build a purpose-built football stadium * First club to have a four-side stadium with two-tier stands * First club to have a stadium with a three-tier stand * First club to issue a regular match programme * First club to have a player score 60 league goals * First club to wear numbered shirts, 1-11 in 1933 * First club to install dugouts * First club to install floodlights * First club to install under soil heating * First club to play 4,000 top-flight games * First club to amass 5,000 league points * First club to play 100 seasons in the top flight * First British club to stage a World Cup semi-final * Have been in the top division of English football longer than ANY other side There are more trivial ones I could quote and I haven't mentioned titles or cups but you get the picture. This club has more History than any other club in the country and Everton fans are rightly proud of this fact. So to compare us to the likes of Wolves and Burnley is misguided and foolish. I will admit that the love of that history combined with 30 years of frustration and over excitement has led to some ill advised, condescending and downright nasty comments by some of my fellow supporters, but I am sure you will agree there has been an equal amount of vitriol on behalf of some of the Southampton fans. We all love our clubs and we want what's best for them but there is no need to turn it into a hate campaign. To clear up some other points made on this forum regarding the so called "ambition" of the club. As I see it, a site on the Mersey waterfront has been identified for a 55/60,000 seater stadium which with Everton's large fan base it will fill, together with a massive improvement in corporate revenue (which is nearly non existent at Goodison) and stadium naming rights will massively increase revenue for the club to be able to compete at a much higher level financially. Obviously the biggest resource is the fan-base and the new stadium. As for poaching managers, that's football. It happens. Personally I hope he doesn't go back for any of your players, Its not that they aren't any good but just that we would have to pay vastly over inflated prices. finally, before you say it, no I don't have a job as I am retired after working for the same company for 30 years. I went to my first match in 1971. First club to issue regular club programme......Jesus wept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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