angelman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 The photo of Koeman looking at the club scarf is quite funny. He appears to have a slightly mocking 'What the **** is this?' look on his face, maybe it's the look you have when you've massively ****ed up and the reality of it starts to sink in. I know that this was posted with Saints tinted specs on, but he really hasn't ****ed up. Chances of improving Saints finishing position - slim. Chances of improving Everton's finishing position - high(er). Much better for the CV. That's before checking the bank balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I know that this was posted with Saints tinted specs on, but he really hasn't ****ed up. Chances of improving Saints finishing position - slim. Chances of improving Everton's finishing position - high(er). Much better for the CV. That's before checking the bank balance. Yeah yeah I know, let me have my fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 The photo of Koeman looking at the club scarf is quite funny. He appears to have a slightly mocking 'What the **** is this?' look on his face, maybe it's the look you have when you've massively ****ed up and the reality of it starts to sink in. In all of the 'welcome Ronald' pictures he looks a bit non-plussed, very different to when he joined Saints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I notice Erwin and Jan are still listed on the official sites staff profile pages. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk He is announcing his back room staff at 1330 today in his first press conference where he will also apologise for mistakingly turning up at Anfield thinking that was the big club he was joining. Erwin will almost certainly follow him but I think it's more 50/50 with Jan. What might persuade Jan to go too is if Saints cannot guarantee his position when the new manager comes in. Think he will be almost a bigger loss than RK simply because he had also become a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Bye Ronald, thanks for a decent two years, #WeMarchOn [unsticks thread] You've unstuck the thread, but now you need to change your avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Ronnie moved to Everton because nasty Les tried to force him to play academy boys.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1294245/ronald-koeman-didnt-just-go-for-the-dough-he-clashed-with-academy-chief-les-reed-over-saints-kids/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Ronnie moved to Everton because nasty Les tried to force him to play academy boys.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1294245/ronald-koeman-didnt-just-go-for-the-dough-he-clashed-with-academy-chief-les-reed-over-saints-kids/ It says there that he is only on £3m at Everton. Where does the £7m come from? Another way of looking at things is that during his two years with us none of the academy players improved and the blame for that could be laid at his door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Press conference at 1.30pm. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Koeman does first Everton press briefing today at 13.30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Press conference at 1.30pm. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say... I don't agree. it will be full of the usual sound bites Everton are a great club, great history, great fans Loads of ambition, want to achieve great things etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Ronnie moved to Everton because nasty Les tried to force him to play academy boys.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1294245/ronald-koeman-didnt-just-go-for-the-dough-he-clashed-with-academy-chief-les-reed-over-saints-kids/ What a terribly written article. It has the makings of a good story but it seems he couldn't be bothered to stitch it all together properly. Confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 He is announcing his back room staff at 1330 today in his first press conference where he will also apologise for mistakingly turning up at Anfield thinking that was the big club he was joining. Erwin will almost certainly follow him but I think it's more 50/50 with Jan. What might persuade Jan to go too is if Saints cannot guarantee his position when the new manager comes in. Think he will be almost a bigger loss than RK simply because he had also become a fan. Saints have just announced that Erwin and Jan have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 ‘To be involved in this project for the next couple of years is a big feeling. I will keep it short on Southampton as it is important to look forward in life. I had a meeting with the board - the first option was to go into the third year of my contract, and I said that was not possible. There was no way I was signing a new contract and I did not agree. Through that whole story, Everton showed that kind of interest. Southampton gave me the permission to talk to Everton and I’m the new manager - and that’s all I would like to say. Thanks to them, we had two fantastic seasons - thanks to the players, staff and fans, but I’m in Everton now.‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Well that was pretty conclusive that he will be sniffing around our players. My dislike has just risen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Well that was the most uninspiring new manager PC I have ever heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Koeman on trying to sign Saints players: 'It's difficult. Maybe it's better I don't make more fights with them.' (said with a massive grin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 ‘To be involved in this project for the next couple of years is a big feeling. I will keep it short on Southampton as it is important to look forward in life. I had a meeting with the board - the first option was to go into the third year of my contract, and I said that was not possible. There was no way I was signing a new contract and I did not agree. Through that whole story, Everton showed that kind of interest. Southampton gave me the permission to talk to Everton and I’m the new manager - and that’s all I would like to say. Thanks to them, we had two fantastic seasons - thanks to the players, staff and fans, but I’m in Everton now.‘ To me what he said doesn't make sense? It reads as if first option was to go into final year of contract but he didn't want to do that! Surely it was the club who didn't want that ? Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Koeman on trying to sign Saints players: 'It's difficult. Maybe it's better I don't make more fights with them.' (said with a massive grin) Interesting listening to Koeman on Sky Sports News, in short, he had meeting with club, Koeman's option was to see his contract out, Saints wanted him to sign new contract, Koeman said no, so saints said on ya way then..end of The question is to us fans is would we have taken another year of RK knowing he could possibly have left at the end of the season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 it is pretty clear. We wanted him to sign a new deal. He was a bit hesitant. Everton wanted him. we were not content on having him go into his last year. Better for him and us he went on to something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 the first option was to go into the third year of my contract, and I said that was not possible So, the complete opposite of what he was saying in public in recent months when asked about his contract situation...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 So, the complete opposite of what he was saying in public in recent months when asked about his contract situation...? I presume what he meant was that we wanted to have a new (altered) contract for the 3rd year of his contract but he would not agree to that. May be we offered him more money but with strings attached? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I cannot wait until we beat Everton in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 It was pretty obvious that whatever happened, we would not let him go into the last year of his contract. Well it was obvious to me, which I why I kept saying that was clearly going to be the case. You're all very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 It was pretty obvious that whatever happened, we would not let him go into the last year of his contract. Well it was obvious to me, which I why I kept saying that was clearly going to be the case. You're all very welcome. remember people telling how wrong you were at the time. This what, 2 months ago??? good luck to him. He will improve everton no doubt. be interesting to see if he improves them enough to match their new lofty expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 SkySportsNewsHQ: WATCH: Will @RonaldKoeman try to sign anyone from his former club @SouthamptonFC? Here's his answer... #SSNHQ https://t.co/hoDK9B238j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 It was pretty obvious that whatever happened, we would not let him go into the last year of his contract. Well it was obvious to me, which I why I kept saying that was clearly going to be the case. You're all very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Is there a song something like " i know your`e lying as your lips are moving" Well something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3645212/Everton-unveil-exciting-plans-Goodison-Park-revamp-ahead-new-Premier-League-season.html Amazeballs. We cannot compete with that. Like putting lipstick on a pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 SkySportsNewsHQ: WATCH: Will @RonaldKoeman try to sign anyone from his former club @SouthamptonFC? Here's his answer... #SSNHQ https://t.co/hoDK9B238j What a smarmy piece of **** he is. I hope, whatever money is thrown at our players the board say "F OFF!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 it is pretty clear. We wanted him to sign a new deal. He was a bit hesitant. Everton wanted him. we were not content on having him go into his last year. Better for him and us he went on to something new https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1294245/ronald-koeman-didnt-just-go-for-the-dough-he-clashed-with-academy-chief-les-reed-over-saints-kids/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 remember people telling how wrong you were at the time. This what, 2 months ago??? good luck to him. He will improve everton no doubt. be interesting to see if he improves them enough to match their new lofty expectations? What a two faced muppet , you were caling him all sorts earlier in this thread...but then he has gone to Everton, your favourite club Can you go too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 What a smarmy piece of **** he is. He came across as a bit chastened and less confident to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 He came across as a bit chastened and less confident to me. Gagging order perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 It was pretty obvious that whatever happened, we would not let him go into the last year of his contract. Well it was obvious to me, which I why I kept saying that was clearly going to be the case. You're all very welcome. TBF i've been saying the same. An entire 12 months of ''will he, won't he?'' and players questioning if they want to sign has the hallmarks of an absolute disastrous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints1976 Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3645212/Everton-unveil-exciting-plans-Goodison-Park-revamp-ahead-new-Premier-League-season.html Amazeballs. We cannot compete with that. That's a temporary measure until they sort out their new ground though, the new one will probably be around 55,000 from what people are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 That's a temporary measure until they sort out their new ground though, the new one will probably be around 55,000 from what people are saying. A club of their stature will require double that. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 A club of their stature will require double that. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk And it'll need to be floating in the harbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Still doubt it wiil be big enough to get out of the shadow of the big club in the area.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 That's a temporary measure until they sort out their new ground though, the new one will probably be around 55,000 from what people are saying. Still a bit stupid to start doing up your current ground if you're serious about moving away in the near future. Smells of Pompey's 'tidy up' to Fratton Park whilst they were building their harbor delight. Which never actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 They're not going to get a stadium on the harbour as there are too many objectors. Likely place is supposedly the lovely Croxteth. Of course most of the supporters want the docks, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 To me what he said doesn't make sense? It reads as if first option was to go into final year of contract but he didn't want to do that! Surely it was the club who didn't want that ? Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk he needs to spend another summer with the nuns. it's double dutch to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Lewis Coombes @LEWIS_C IF #Koeman intended to see out last year of contract but #saintsfc ultimatum to sign or leave forced his hand...why change agents?? #spin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Lewis Coombes @LEWIS_C IF #Koeman intended to see out last year of contract but #saintsfc ultimatum to sign or leave forced his hand...why change agents?? #spin because Guido Albers didn't push Koeman forward for Everton job? And Koeman is a snake who even stabbed this agent in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Lewis Coombes @LEWIS_C IF #Koeman intended to see out last year of contract but #saintsfc ultimatum to sign or leave forced his hand...why change agents?? #spin Cos his original agent a, pushed for FDB and b, told Everton that RK had verbally agreed a new contract with SFC. I firmly believe that once RK got wind of the salary that was it bye bye agent bye bye SFC. All the rest is just hyperbole. SFC's statement says it all - do the right things, stick to your word and you can go with our blessing for your future. Do it the wrong way and we don't. I'll probably get slammed by the posters on hear that want to believe that LR and SFC are the ones in the wrong but so be it - the history would tell me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 There's really no point worrying about it. It's done, and nothing is going to change it. Why look back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Cos his original agent a, pushed for FDB and b, told Everton that RK had verbally agreed a new contract with SFC. I firmly believe that once RK got wind of the salary that was it bye bye agent bye bye SFC. All the rest is just hyperbole. SFC's statement says it all - do the right things, stick to your word and you can go with our blessing for your future. Do it the wrong way and we don't. I'll probably get slammed by the posters on hear that want to believe that LR and SFC are the ones in the wrong but so be it - the history would tell me otherwise. Not slamming but history points to managers seeing out contracts causes issues Strachan and Pellegrini 2 examples . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Sorry did I miss pellegrini managing us? Christ that nap was a long one! [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Sorry did I miss pellegrini managing us? Christ that nap was a long one! [emoji6] You probably were watching England first half then. At every press conference we would have the same question - it's immaterial anyway he saw the wages and jumped 21m for managing a football team we all would. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 If he doesn't start well it isn't going to end well. Sacked by January/Feb if they're in the bottom half around then. Though Kenwright does seem to be patient with managers got the feeling this new guy definitely wont be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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