bjk Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Hiddink or De Boer definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Isn't Hiddink taking up some sort of behind the scenes role at Chelsea? I think we'd go for a 'younger' sort anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Wonder if they're considering Thomas Tuchel from Borussia Dortmund! Would be a statement of intent. Zero chance. We just had our Manager poached by Everton, we are hardly going to be taking the likes of Tuchel or Emery from established European clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Isn't Hiddink taking up some sort of behind the scenes role at Chelsea? I think we'd go for a 'younger' sort anyway. Yeah think your right,ok De Boer it is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirchSaint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 It was more of a speculative guess on our part rather than a strong hint I agree to an extent, but I'm not sure how else it could of been interpreted other than AVB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I know nothing about De Boer's managerial career, why do so many seem to rate him? It's a very poor league, Koeman at least had experience elsewhere. Bar the cup win at Valencia RK hadn't exactly covered himself in glory though had he, it was only at Feyenoord he did well. I might be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 If you look at RK's WIKI page it shows that several of his Managerial jobs were not all that successful. So, we shall see how he does at a club where the expectations will be far higher now with the new ownership and with the demanding fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Ids take Howe , Neville , I've even heard that Pahars could be on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Well the summers are never dull at Southampton FC, Hoping the club stays well clear of the likes of Moyes, Hughes and Howe . I think AVB would be my first choice, although I wouldn't mind a left field Pochettino type appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Leo beenhakker....Saints like a bit of Dutch! Great name too. In all honesty I don't think anyone has a clue, possibly another leftfield selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 There's a blurry photo on Twitter which apparently shows De Boer at St Mary's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I know that being dead might be seen as a disadvantage but believe its traditional to mention Bruno Metsu at this point. Did awfully well with Senegal dontcherknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Photo allegedly showing de Boer, his agent and Les Reed amongst others outside St. Mary's. Very blurry and not close enough for earlobe analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Photo allegedly showing de Boer, his agent and Les Reed amongst others outside St. Mary's. Very blurry and not close enough for earlobe analysis. With a red carpet out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Photo allegedly showing de Boer, his agent and Les Reed amongst others outside St. Mary's. Very blurry and not close enough for earlobe analysis. At least it's good to see a queue going in at this time. When was the picture taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 With a red carpet out? Les knows how to treat 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 At least it's good to see a queue going in at this time. When was the picture taken? Source of the photo 25 minutes ago roughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 More likely an evening function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 That's just a random selection of people... nothing to suggest FdB or Les are there. Looks more like the end of a fag break at some corporate event. Chap with his sleeves rolled up at the back, younger fella looking at his phone and a few in suits. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Photo allegedly showing de Boer, his agent and Les Reed amongst others outside St. Mary's. Very blurry and not close enough for earlobe analysis. I can't imagine they'd have to form an orderly queue to get into St Mary's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKoeman Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Would love Emery or Pellegrini but realistically I think we'll end up with Howe, Moyes or Mark Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Would love Emery or Pellegrini but realistically I think we'll end up with Howe, Moyes or Mark Hughes. Agree Emery will be out of our league. Not sureif Pellegrini would be interested, he may be as he wants to stay in England. Howe will be in the thoughts you would think but Moyes and Hughes aren't really our style and not sure Hughes would see us a worthwhile step up from Stoke aside from us being in the EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Well, at least we know AVB and Les would share a common dislike of Neil Ashton. (confrontation with Ashton begins at 1:47) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Is that queue our manager shortlist? Told you we'd be attracting all sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Would love Emery or Pellegrini but realistically I think we'll end up with Howe, Moyes or Mark Hughes. Interesting choice of user name you've got there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 What do people see as the attraction with AVB? I think he would be quite a risk. Hasnt been very popular at his other two PL clubs, can rub the media up the wrong way too, plus a bit of a rep for dull football despite getting quite a few points at Spurs the one season. If he wasn't foreign I wonder if people would be as keen. The best thing about Koeman was his calm persona and character and I don't personally see AVB as being in that mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 What do people see as the attraction with AVB? I think he would be quite a risk. Hasnt been very popular at his other two PL clubs, can rub the media up the wrong way too, plus a bit of a rep for dull football despite getting quite a few points at Spurs the one season. If he wasn't foreign I wonder if people would be as keen. Young manager. Forward-thinking, meticulous attention to detail. In many respects I think he would fit in well with the club's hierarchy and values. Hit a rocky patch at Spurs and Levy got trigger finger and then, err, got Sherwood in. When Ronald had a rocky patch, Les stuck by him. Think AVB has quite a long-term approach, I recall him being brought in at Chelsea to freshen things up and then Abramovich binned him off when he tried to move JT towards the exit door and upset Terry and Lampard in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 He's only 38, potential to stay at a club a long time. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Not one of them even looks like De Boer or Reed ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Would love Emery or Pellegrini but realistically I think we'll end up with Howe, Moyes or Mark Hughes. I'd consider suicide if Hughes or Moyes come here. Howe doesn't excite either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 What do people see as the attraction with AVB? I think he would be quite a risk. Hasnt been very popular at his other two PL clubs, can rub the media up the wrong way too, plus a bit of a rep for dull football despite getting quite a few points at Spurs the one season. If he wasn't foreign I wonder if people would be as keen. The best thing about Koeman was his calm persona and character and I don't personally see AVB as being in that mould. Equally... What do people see as the attraction with Pochettino? I think he would be quite a risk. He's never managed in the PL, can rub people up the wrong way and got sacked with his team bottom of La Liga. or... What do people see as the attraction with Koeman? I think he would be quite a risk. Hasn't been successful everywhere he's been, been sacked a couple of times and can rub people up the wrong way. Plays more direct football than Pochettino. Swings and roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 (edited) AVB won stuff at Porto and Zenit, bith big teams that always dominate the leagues they are in. Would expect trophies every year at those clubs. He just always came across as a bit of an aloof character in the PL. Not saying he isnt worth considering, just doesn't immediately seem ideal for us IMO, mostly based on character and his handling of/image in the media, which is quite important I think. Immediately when Koeman joined we got less stick in the media because he was liked and respected. Edited 4 June, 2016 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Think AVB a bit of a yesterday's man where the EPL is concerned. Wouldn't mind Neville or Giggs, perhaps both. Something a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 AVB won stuff at Porto and Zenit, bith big teams that always dominate the leagues they are in. Would expect trophies every year at those clubs. He just always came across as a bit of an aloof character in the PL. You can say exactly the same about Koeman's managerial career as you have in that top line. Only one trophy outside of Holland/Portugal and that was the Spanish Cup with Valencia, who then sacked him because they nearly went down. He hasn't won anything in England yet, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Think AVB a bit of a yesterday's man where the EPL is concerned. Wouldn't mind Neville or Giggs, perhaps both. Something a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 (edited) You can say exactly the same about Koeman's managerial career as you have in that top line. Only one trophy outside of Holland/Portugal and that was the Spanish Cup with Valencia, who then sacked him because they nearly went down. He hasn't won anything in England yet, either. Not really bothered about trophies won though because we arent going to be winning a PL and at those type of clubs in those leagues trophies are a given. Adkins would win domestic trophies with Porto or Zenit most likely. Its the character and approach of AVB that I am not sure of from his time in England. The media savaged him and fans of Chelsea and Spurs didn't like him. Certainly due in part to circumstances at Chelsea especially but worth considering when forming a judgement. Has never stayed anywhere very long either. Edited 4 June, 2016 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 What are peoples obsession with former players who have never managed? (I'm not really taking into account the il-fated 5month stint at Valencia). Let an NPC club give them their english football chance. We can attract proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Not really bothered about trophies won though because we arent going to be winning a PL. Adkins would win trophies with Porto or Zenit most likely. Its the character and approach of AVB that I am not sure of from his time in England. The media savaged him and fans of Chelsea and Spurs didn't like him. Which begs the question, why were you bringing up trophies then? Yes, I think AVB can be a bit *****ly sometimes but I'll leave that up to Les and co to decide. I think he's got a good CV and would be an interesting appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Which begs the question, why were you bringing up trophies then? Yes, I think AVB can be a bit *****ly sometimes but I'll leave that up to Les and co to decide. I think he's got a good CV and would be an interesting appointment. You brought up trophies in the screenshot as a reason he would be an attractive proposition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 You brought up trophies in the screenshot as a reason he would be an attractive proposition! I did. But it was you who dismissed his achievements rather than just taking the approach of 'I don't think trophies matter' from the off. We'll see what happens. I think he's well-suited to us, people learn and he's still not even 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehutchmeister Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I think AVB is the left field option as he doesn't fit the Southampton ethos in some ways.He must be seen as a step up from Koeman though as he has won domestic and European trophies.I think we need to make a hefty statement with this next appointment.We've made a step up each time and need to turn this negative into a positive.I cant say how I know but the board were looking to match the wages until they got a bit rediculous and the new Everton chairman is looking to make a statement.I think we have some money to throw at the next one so that's what we need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I read this article on AVB earlier: http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/07/28/tactical-philosophy-andre-villas-boas/ Worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Bar the cup win at Valencia RK hadn't exactly covered himself in glory though had he, it was only at Feyenoord he did well. I might be wrong though Won the Eredivisie with both PSV and Ajax. Had a good run in the CL with Ajax as well being kicked out of the CL by a last minute Milan goal in the QF. He does have a history of "not being loyal". He walked out of his first job at Vitesse midseason when Ajax came along and left PSV after winning the league because Valencia wanted him. I follow Ajax quite closely as a former season ticket holder and he's a good coach. He's won the league 4 times in a row with Ajax which is a club record. He's done it with mainly homegrown players which will probably appeal to Saints management. I'm not sure he's tactically flexible enough for the PL. Ajax is quite dogmatic about their formation and playing style, at Saints he'd have to be a lot more flexible. My personal favourite is Rudy Garcia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Probably easier to not denigrate current/past managers and look forward to speculating about the next one. Also I could manage Ajax to a league title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Leo beenhakker....Saints like a bit of Dutch! Great name too. In all honesty I don't think anyone has a clue, possibly another leftfield selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 (edited) I did. But it was you who dismissed his achievements rather than just taking the approach of 'I don't think trophies matter' from the off. We'll see what happens. I think he's well-suited to us, people learn and he's still not even 40. He is definitely still young, amazing really that he has that experience for a Manager under 40. Still not sure what makes him especially well suited to us though beyond his age. At the end of the day he has been sacked quite early into his tenure both times he has managed in England, which whilst it happens is a bit of a concern and he has said himself he didn't have a good time in England. It could be better the next time but there isn't much I've seen to suggest his Chelsea and Spurs experiences (especially Spurs) were the exception and that doing well (at big teams in poor leagues) is the norm. If Everton had gone for AVB last week very few on here would have talked it up as a great appointment. Edited 4 June, 2016 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 les reed is very comfortable with the contract negotiations. FdB and him talk for hours every day about the future. Like this very much !!!!! Les is so naive it's frightening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Whatever happens I'm sure the board will get it right. Every managerial appointment has been a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Judging by those comments and his problems with the likes of Ashton and Samuel I'd be surprised if he wanted to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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