FloridaMarlin Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 What has happened to FdB's old backroom staff? Did they resign along with him/be replaced/etc etc? Jaap Stam, who was in charge of the Ajax kids, was appointed Reading boss yesterday. Keep a watching brief on him for a couple of years while he learns his trade.
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Jaap Stam, who was in charge of the Ajax kids, was appointed Reading boss yesterday. Keep a watching brief on him for a couple of years while he learns his trade. Is Bergkamp still at Ajax?
Rut Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Jurgen Klinsmann @ 33/1 is an interesting one. If USA lose to Ecuador in the quarter final of Copa America on Thurs then his time as USA manager could be over. He likes to develop players. Could be a good fit for Saints.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 A kbilly/Guan update would be pretty nice about now.
Matthew Le God Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Hi guys, this is my first post, so please don't burn me... ☺️I've been lurking on the board for a while, and although I don't have any connection with Southampton or UK as such, I've been closely following English football since late 80's... Never had a club that I really supported until couple of years ago, when Southampton continuous rise from the ashes really made me appreciate them. Anyway, enough about me, what I was wondering is what do you guys think about possibility (although it might be highly unlikely) of Ryan Giggs taking over managerial role at Saints? After all, with Mourihno in charge, he's more than likely to leave Manchester United, and although he might not be proven in the role, I don't think that it would be too hard for him to adjust to it. Anyway, just curious what do you guys think about it... Giggs would be a massive risk as he has only been a 1st team (interim) manager for 4 games. I'd be amazed if Southampton appointed him, as I doubt he ticks many of Les Reed's criteria at all for a new manager. We've just finished 6th in the Premier League, in the Europa League group stage next season, will offer a decent salary and have a squad full of internationals; this isn't the time to be the testing ground for potential future Man Utd managers. Giggs needs to look for a job in the Championship. The job at Southampton should really be attractive enough to appeal to a relatively high calibre of manager with a good managerial track record.
Dellman Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Giggs would never put his heart into Southampton, his head would always be somewhere else
Saint Billy Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Giggs would never put his heart into Southampton, his head would always be somewhere else Probably up someone else's mrs.
mynameisthehulk Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I knew I shouldn't have come here. Mongs! Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk
VectisSaint Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Early doors granted, with FDB current favourite at bookies, just wondered if he had moved up our list slightly! Honestly, think this would still be a good move re continuity. Early doors? This has been going on for about 2 weeks or so. Our succession planning is always much lauded, if so we should have had a list of candidates before this all kicked off, and hopefully the top 2 or 3 sounded out and now down to our top target, who should be in place in the next day or so. Then again,not everyone is sucked in by the bull****. I guess we'll see. Sky report just now sounds like we are in no hurry which makes me think it could be a week or so at least before we know anything. Still think de Boer is the right fit, unless Ivan Golac's arrival in the City tomorrow is to finalise his deal
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Giggs would never put his heart into Southampton, his head would always be somewhere else And another body part, I'd imagine.
OttawaSaint Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Giggs would never put his heart into Southampton, his head would always be somewhere else ...and his **** a number of other places. He can't even be loyal to his wife or brother, he'd **** us good and proper. Why is his name even coming up? He's totally unproven. Ask Blackburn how they fared with Brian Kidd. This reply is not aimed at you. Just can't believe some are suggesting Giggs. Made me throw up in my mouth a bit.
cellone Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I knew I shouldn't have come here. Mongs! Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk I just went on twitter for the first time. This place is nothing by comparison. Loads of job knockeys on there. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Winnersaint Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Jaap Stam, who was in charge of the Ajax kids, was appointed Reading boss yesterday. Keep a watching brief on him for a couple of years while he learns his trade. Has gone down like a nasty turd with Reading fans I've spoken to. Predicting them doing a Bolton next season. That'd be funny.
eelpie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I still feel we may go for the cheap option, the Brother and Jan. Apart from the fact that they almost certainly will be joining RK soon, appointing assistant coaches has always been disaster for us.
eelpie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 No chance of Giggs. He needs to learn his trade lower down the pyramid. Also, interesting he gets zero flak whatsoever for being a key member of the coaching team during LVG's tenure. If they had done well he would have been praised so interesting to note it doesn't work both ways. I agree he needs to learn his trade at a club low down the pyramid first, but ManU did do quite well after a poor start, and who's to say that Giggs was not influential in their good late season run?
Manuel Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 De Boer's odds have dropped today, is now ahead of Howe as favourite.
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Lazio close to agreeing to terms with Bielsa: http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/eng/lazio-very-close-to-agreeing-to-terms-with-bielsa-the-latest/
Wurzel Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Jurgen Klinsmann @ 33/1 is an interesting one. If USA lose to Ecuador in the quarter final of Copa America on Thurs then his time as USA manager could be over. He likes to develop players. Could be a good fit for Saints. http://www.espnfc.com/united-states/story/2888187/united-states-results-under-jurgen-klinsmann-now-what-we-hoped-for-says-sunil-gulati Looks like the USA are preparing to part company with Jurgen Klinsmann. Can I be first to nominate him as the mystery man.? Thinking the same a few days ago. And ties in with our American links. 33/1 eh? Worth a punt
Pilchards Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Thinking the same a few days ago. And ties in with our American links. 33/1 eh? Worth a punt Should make it a double that he will be Spurs manager two years later.
diggers Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Thinking the same a few days ago. And ties in with our American links. 33/1 eh? Worth a punt I'd be amazed, he's really settled in California these days, is a US citizen and has two older kids at college here. Cant see him swopping LA to Soton.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I'd be amazed, he's really settled in California these days, is a US citizen and has two older kids at college here. Cant see him swopping LA to Soton. Hopefully not. He is too far American for me now.
Jai27 Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 De Boer's odds have dropped today, is now ahead of Howe as favourite. Pretty sure FdB was confirmed as not being near the top of our list for candidates. I may be remembering incorrectly though!
sotonpride Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 And only ever had international jobs, which are basically part time. No league experience, and if it did go well by some miracle, in a couple of years when Poch leaves Spurs for bigger things, he'd return to his spiritual home and we'd all throw up in our mouths. Isn't this the whole issue though. If our next manager is poached in two years it means we've had a successful two years. I'd take it. If Koeman's reign had been mediocre (low/mid table or worse) in the last two years then we'd probably be on the lookout for a new manager anyway, just for different reasons.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 And only ever had international jobs, which are basically part time. No league experience, and if it did go well by some miracle, in a couple of years when Poch leaves Spurs for bigger things, he'd return to his spiritual home and we'd all throw up in our mouths. Did he not manage Bayern Munich for about 1 season, think he did. That aside it's still a pretty ridiculous idea anyway.
Dellman Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 If FdeB is back to top of thr list..cheers! My first choice, vast experience of managing, top player in his day, well known by our Dutch contingent, continues the Bercelona contact, sign of the club's great ambition but Eddie howe would be several steps down even if he is a nice guy.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 From the well connected Bmth Echo: @amitchellecho: Koeman finally being appointed by Everton changes nothing. Eddie Howe is going nowhere #afcb #utciad https://t.co/rSVgcQzs9V
suewhistle Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Losing Ron feels like you've broken up with an ugly bird... she had her good points, was miserable as f**k in December, recovered that but ultimately she's run her course and the relationship has gone as far as it could. I get it: she kept on saying "notnowcato".
derry Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 It seems maybe two years is a good number provided the new incoming manager continues the progress. It stops complacency creeping in and allows a new impetus on a regular basis. How many times have we seen managers stay too long and taking a club downwards before being sacked and a rescue having to be carried out by somebody else. We may have dodged a bullet.
derry Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 From the well connected Bmth Echo: @amitchellecho: Koeman finally being appointed by Everton changes nothing. Eddie Howe is going nowhere #afcb #utciad https://t.co/rSVgcQzs9V That's a relief.
View From The Top Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 From the well connected Bmth Echo: @amitchellecho: Koeman finally being appointed by Everton changes nothing. Eddie Howe is going nowhere #afcb #utciad https://t.co/rSVgcQzs9V Good, as we don't ant him. Potential but far too inexperienced IMHO.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Good, as we don't ant him. Potential but far too inexperienced IMHO. Our Club might. I'm not overly bothered either way with Howe but if he is hypothetically our no1 then I would hope we at least got the chance to speak to him. Fair play to Howe for being genuinely loyal anyway. When he does leave Bmth it will hurt him.
eelpie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Jurgen Klinsmann @ 33/1 is an interesting one. If USA lose to Ecuador in the quarter final of Copa America on Thurs then his time as USA manager could be over. He likes to develop players. Could be a good fit for Saints. I'm a big Klinsmann fan. He would be a big draw recruiting and keeping international players.
Donatello Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Our Club might. I'm not overly bothered either way with Howe but if he is hypothetically our no1 then I would hope we at least got the chance to speak to him. Fair play to Howe for being genuinely loyal anyway. When he does leave Bmth it will hurt him. Exactly, there clearly is an interest in Howe from the club, so there's no point in us turning our noses up/acting as if he's beneath us if he flat out rejects the idea. Still, I'd be hopeful that we sign someone with a heavier/more influential name in Europe/the World (as good as I'm sure Howe is).
Appy Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Howe said he was staying just before he went to Burnley if I recall correctly.
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Howe said he was staying just before he went to Burnley if I recall correctly. Wasn't there there weird situation where he was thinking about going to Charlton... Thought about it... played squash with Eddie Mitchell, announced he was staying... then Burnley came in and he went there straight away!
BigShadow Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Howe said he was staying just before he went to Burnley if I recall correctly. Bournemouth was a different proposition back then. Howe probably thought the Burnley job was his chance to manage a club in the Premier League - didn't work out - and the Bournemouth he went back to suddenly found some money. Would be very surprised if Howe left - unless of course the Everton job comes up at Christmas.
saintwbu Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Let's not pretend Howe is some pillar of loyalty, he jumped ship and failed and was incredibly lucky that Bournemouth were willing to give him a second chance and he has it about as comfortable as it can get. If I was him I wouldn't be leaving there in a hurry.
Matthew Le God Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 From the well connected Bmth Echo: @amitchellecho: Koeman finally being appointed by Everton changes nothing. Eddie Howe is going nowhere #afcb #utciad https://t.co/rSVgcQzs9V That doesn't really mean much. He had similar stories when going from Bournemouth to Burnley and Burnley to Bournemouth. For example... http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9965252.display/
Bewildered Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Howe said he was staying just before he went to Burnley if I recall correctly. January 11 2011: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bournemouth/9357904.stm Bournemouth have confirmed that manager Eddie Howe will stay at Dean Court. Howe, 33, who has been in the role since 31 December 2008, had been linked with vacancies at Crystal Palace, Burnley and Charlton Athletic. Howe told BBC Radio Solent: "I came close to leaving the club, I'm not going to lie. It was a tough decision. "But it had dragged on long enough and we wanted an end to it. Now there is we can concentrate on the football, which is all that matters." January 16, 2011. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/burnley/9360426.stm Eddie Howe has been confirmed as the new manager of Burnley on a three-and-a-half-year contract. The 33-year-old, who watched Burnley draw with QPR on Saturday, will be joined at the Championship club by his Bournemouth assistant Jason Tindall.
doddisalegend Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 From the well connected Bmth Echo: @amitchellecho: Koeman finally being appointed by Everton changes nothing. Eddie Howe is going nowhere #afcb #utciad https://t.co/rSVgcQzs9V Good
doddisalegend Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 January 11 2011: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bournemouth/9357904.stm January 16, 2011. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/burnley/9360426.stm LOL that makes Koeman look good....
UpweySaint Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Good, as we don't ant him. Potential but far too inexperienced IMHO. Speak for yourself, I would be happy with him. Bookies seem to think we fancy him too they we normally keep these things fairly well under wraps as a club.
Shroppie Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Hi guys, this is my first post, so please don't burn me... ☺️I've been lurking on the board for a while, and although I don't have any connection with Southampton or UK as such, I've been closely following English football since late 80's... Never had a club that I really supported until couple of years ago, when Southampton continuous rise from the ashes really made me appreciate them. Anyway, enough about me, what I was wondering is what do you guys think about possibility (although it might be highly unlikely) of Ryan Giggs taking over managerial role at Saints? After all, with Mourihno in charge, he's more than likely to leave Manchester United, and although he might not be proven in the role, I don't think that it would be too hard for him to adjust to it. Anyway, just curious what do you guys think about it... Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Personally, over my dead body. No, no and no. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
alpine_saint Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I do hope Uncle Les is about to pull a rabbit out of his hat, because I am not too impressed by the quality and quantity of names being bandied about...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I do hope Uncle Les is about to pull a rabbit out of his hat, because I am not too impressed by the quality and quantity of names being bandied about... What names would impress you? Genuine question
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Hurdle cleared. Please choose your words more carefully. For an instant there I read 'Hoddle cleared'. Not good for my heart.
Convict Colony Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 Looks like according to Spanish media Paco will become the next coach of Granada !! https://twitter.com/isaacfouto?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
SuperSAINT Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 The names being banded about are not our real targets. There's been A LOT of names banded about though!
Fan The Flames Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 I do hope Uncle Les is about to pull a rabbit out of his hat, because I am not too impressed by the quality and quantity of names being bandied about... One thing is certain, that whoever we get you will moan about it you miserable ****.
Saint IQ Posted 14 June, 2016 Posted 14 June, 2016 With Erwin and Jan stlll yet to depart, it could a good indication of us about to unveil De Boeuf or another Dutch manager while retaining them both. Worth noting than when Koeman was first announced for us, Erwin and Jan weren't announced till the following day or so.
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