Mallagroth Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Would be good if we can announce our new manager the day before Everton confirm Koeman. Or this?
Pengi Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I voted Moyes for you guys. Seriously think he'd do a good job keeping you top half. Could even do a Leicester given the chance. Keeping us in the top half would not be good enough for our Board
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I voted Moyes for you guys. Seriously think he'd do a good job keeping you top half. Could even do a Leicester given the chance. I wouldn't mind Moyes tbh. Kept you lot up on a shoe string budget. His sides were always hard to beat.
tajjuk Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Emery as first choice, but I think he'll get snapped up by someone better, then probably I'd edge De Boer but would not complain about AVB or Howe. not Martinez or Moyes or anyone like that though.
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Why do people seem obsessed with having a manager who stays for more than 2 years. It just isn't the modern way. Rather keep changing every 2 years to stay fresh if we continue with results like we are currently getting. Everton are step behind us on the ladder of premier league ascension, they need to catch up, Koeman has proved he can take a mid-table club with average to decent players into top 8. They need him more than we do quite frankly. We need to gamble on getting a better manager and moving to the next stage otherwise whats the point of competing at all... oh yeah money... but you know what I mean. Spot on sir.
Wade Garrett Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Pellegrini. Done a superb job at clubs in La Liga comparable in size to us. Really don't want Flores or AVB.
Chris27687 Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Or this? I would go the day after as it shows we are a much better run and better prepared club - rumour has it that this has been in the offing for the last 2 months and if we can go less than 24 hours without a manager and follow it up with some player signings in the fortnight afterwards it would be a strong showing. I'm only thinking AVB as i feel Emry might be a bit unlikely - one of those 2 or FDB would be good - Howe, Pellegrini & Moyes would be a 2nd tier of manager compare to the first 3. If we get Emry that persistent Ever Banega rumour might finally come true! Would be good to do the davis role.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Emery. Just so we can give him the nickname 'Cloth'. Or, 'D1ck'. ;-)
Polaroid Saint Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Former Porto manager I think?That's the one. Left under a cloud and maybe not enough club experience, but from what I could make out at the time it was a case of managing huge expectations and equally big egos got the better of him - two things that (arguably) not such an issue at Saints. Hugely regarded coach who maybe needs a 'SFC' to rejuvenate his career. Total speculation on my part, but if I were Less I would at least get him over for a chat.
Pancake Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Genuinely excited about getting a new manager in. Didn't think I would be saying that, but I'm not that fussed that RK is going. Weird.
John B Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Genuinely excited about getting a new manager in. Didn't think I would be saying that, but I'm not that fussed that RK is going. Weird. Could not agree more
1576 Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Has no one mentioned Hoddle? Yep, you know who about 10 seconds after the story broke!
Lighthouse Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Or, 'D1ck'. ;-) I wouldn't call him names, he can be quite abrasive. Although hopefully his coaching style will 'rub off' well on the team. Has no one mentioned Hoddle? Not going to happen. He's the obvious choice but the lunatic fringe won't allow it.
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Genuinely excited about getting a new manager in. Didn't think I would be saying that, but I'm not that fussed that RK is going. Weird. Nothing weird about it. I'm looking forward to some real attacking football. I suppose it must be a bit like the Man U fans now that they've got rid of LVG. Oh hang on, they've appointed Mourinho.
Pancake Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Nothing weird about it. I'm looking forward to some real attacking football. I suppose it must be a bit like the Man U fans now that they've got rid of LVG. Oh hang on, they've appointed Mourinho. It's weird as, apart from some tweets in the winter when we were awful which was down to RK, I've been a big big RK fan. But, it seems based on my reaction I didn't like him as much as I liked MP or NA.
trousers Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 (edited) Ignore Bizzaro, he's an Everton troll The Saintsweb Forum doesn't ignore trolls. It plays along with them to give them a false sense of intellectual superiority when in reality they are as thick as mince. Hush, don't give the game away. Edited 6 June, 2016 by trousers
Jai27 Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I managed to get a tenner on AVB at 33/1 Friday afternoon, so... AVB please! That aside, I think Frank de Boer is the obvious choice and seems to fit perfectly in line with the clubs ethos.
Dalek2003 Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I think Fran De Boer would be a step up from Koeman. So he's the one !
Pancake Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I trust Les is combing through the shortlist, trimming the crop of candidates shorter... Interesting barbering bits in there. Interesting...
ErwinK1961 Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Interesting barbering bits in there. Interesting... Barbering.... Barber.... Barber of Seville... right that's it, I'm taking that as a done deal for Emery
sadoldgit Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I wouldn't mind Moyes tbh. Kept you lot up on a shoe string budget. His sides were always hard to beat. And often hard to watch too!
sadoldgit Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I think Fran De Boer would be a step up from Koeman. So he's the one ! Oh come on Dalek, we all know that you really want Hoddle back!!
Red Alert Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I am happier at the managers we haven't got. Just imagine if that list had Brendan Rodgers on it. He would have been salivating all over us by now if he didn't go to Celtic. Monk also could have been in the frame.
S-Clarke Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 I am happier at the managers we haven't got. Just imagine if that list had Brendan Rodgers on it. He would have been salivating all over us by now if he didn't go to Celtic. Monk also could have been in the frame. Not sure he's that qualified tbh, fair enough he was a good ITK back in the day, but I wouldn't go with him. We need proper experience.
Saint Billy Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Barbering.... Barber.... Barber of Seville... right that's it, I'm taking that as a done deal for Emery Or it could be Jurgen Crop!!
scotty Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Not sure he's that qualified tbh, fair enough he was a good ITK back in the day, but I wouldn't go with him. We need proper experience.
pluto Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 No way can it be eddie howe as hes already turned us down in the past. He wouldnt keep players or attract top ones either.
Convict Colony Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Flores has apparently been asked to not committ to Espanyol yet by Sevilla as he was about to sign, looks like Emery is defo off somewhere. http://www.marca.com/futbol/sevilla/2016/06/05/575407b1e2704e1d378b45db.html
CB Fry Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Flores has apparently been asked to not committ to Espanyol yet by Sevilla as he was about to sign, looks like Emery is defo off somewhere. http://www.marca.com/futbol/sevilla/2016/06/05/575407b1e2704e1d378b45db.html I see that mentions us as a destination but no one else (like Milan). Thank god all the papers are lazy lying scumbags otherwise I'd start to get excited.
sotonjoe Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Pellegrini. Done a superb job at clubs in La Liga comparable in size to us. Really don't want Flores or AVB. Are you sure? What would you say was superb about his record at Villarreal and Malaga?
Dig Dig Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Not sure what exactly is within the Saints criteria so it's hard to pick one from the list. Easier to pick one who I don't want in Moyes who does stand out as a bit odd compared broadly to the others.
badgerx16 Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Flores has apparently been asked to not committ to Espanyol yet by Sevilla as he was about to sign, looks like Emery is defo off somewhere. http://www.marca.com/futbol/sevilla/2016/06/05/575407b1e2704e1d378b45db.html "Everton wanted to sign the 44-year-old but they decided to hire former Valencia coach Ronald Koeman instead, who signed for the Liverpool-based club last week." They've kept that quiet.
Professor Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 (edited) Can't deny Emery's recent record in the Europa League but not so impressive in the League. Clearly he would do a good job but another non-English speaker would be a shame as the fans do like to feel that the manager can communicate with them, which probably goes for the players as well. Pochettino didn't use English with the media but he probably did speak English at training. Obviously not the major issue, but my preference anyway is Pellegrini. Not employed, so no compensation and if he could be tempted here he would certainly raise the profile of the club, a factor in attracting top players. As a manager his record is superb. Edited 6 June, 2016 by Professor
pimpin4rizeal Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 For me, it's between 3. I think the club will look for someone with experience in European competition. One of the real regrets from last year was our lack to make a real fist of it, so with 6 games guaranteed this year I'd imagine appointing a manager who has had this sort of exposure is high on the list. So....FdB is highly rated, stock has probably fallen slightly in the last couple of seasons as PSV have pipped Ajax to the post, but he's still done a great job there. 4 consecutive dutch league titles and CL/EL progression isn't something to be sniffed at. I also remember when we played Ajax at a pre-season game a few years ago, possibly when we were in L1? FdB had great things to say about our academy after the game and actually picked out young JWP for specific praise. AVB - I think he was hard done by in England. Chelsea paid Porto something like £15m to get him, and his task was to set about 'dismantling' the old guard - i.e Terry/Lampard/Drogba. That was never going to end well, he was onto a loser as soon as he was instructed to do that to be honest. The 'old' guard played as big a role as getting him out as anyone else. For what it's worth, Romeu played his best Chelsea football under him. He also won the EL with Porto I believe, so has sufficient pedigree in the European competitions. His first season at Spurs was actually record breaking, people seem to forget that. It still is Spurs highest points total and I believe he had the highest % of wins as any manager they've had in that first year. Granted, he had a superstar in Bale, but he still did a good job that year. He was royally stitched up in the summer though. Bale gone, £80m in the bank, Baldini brought into oversea transfers....and then you get what happened. Players the manager didn't clearly have full say in, being shoe-horned into a team and struggling to find a system for all of them (it was a very lopsided squad). It's harsh that he gets tarnished with that, as his first season was better than anything Spurs have had. Emery - For me, the least likely. I think as a club/league, this is an attractive job - but I just feel he'll have bigger fish to fry with the likes of Milan and PSG sniffing, if not now, then in the future. He'd be a terrific appointment, no doubts about that. Personally, I've gone with FdB. I think he's the most likely of the 3 and still a terrific choice. EL experience, winners medals, top level playing career, out of contract...good with young players. He kind of ticks all the boxes of the type we'd look for. I'd obviously be happy with any of those 3 though! Nice analysis. Totally agree and some great points about AVB in particular. Also worth noting that AVB also managed a undefeated season with Porto,only the second time that's been achieved, I'm actually leaning avb personally he's got European experience, fairly big name, good with youngsters, and also has a point to prove in the prem. Maybe he's less likely to get poached also after having failed at Chelsea and Spurs. All that said I'd be happy with emery or de boer also, it's pretty great timing for koeman to leave with so many fantastic options out there right now.
OldNick Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 http://app.football-espana.net/?referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-espana.net%2F58901%2Fsevilla-sound-out-sanchez-flores#article/footballespana-58901 Interesting (if true) that Emery's release clause has dropped recently. Although he must be set for bigger offers you would think than Saints. If you win 3x Europa Leagues and can't make an obvious step up its a bit odd.surely we should look at league records, not Europa league stuff. I have mentioned it before that his team were the only team in Europe not to win away in the league. Surely that is a concern about team formation and mindset, let alone getting a decent league position
Batman Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 surely we should look at league records, not Europa league stuff. I have mentioned it before that his team were the only team in Europe not to win away in the league. Surely that is a concern about team formation and mindset, let alone getting a decent league position working back through the last 3 seasons. he finished. 7th, 5th and 5th winning the Europa League in that time also....3 times sort of pishes all over Koeman despite not winning away in the league last season
Window Cleaner Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Emery is my numero uno I doubt that we'll be number 1 on his list though.
saintwbu Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 surely we should look at league records, not Europa league stuff. I have mentioned it before that his team were the only team in Europe not to win away in the league. Surely that is a concern about team formation and mindset, let alone getting a decent league position Not a problem if you win all your home games, plus saves money on doing away trips when you know we won't win! Would sacrifice our league position for a cup win, as long as we don't get relegated.
stevy777_x Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 working back through the last 3 seasons. he finished. 7th, 5th and 5th winning the Europa League in that time also....3 times sort of pishes all over Koeman despite not winning away in the league last season Now French television is announcing Emery has been chosen by PSG and is in contract talks. This one could be resolved very quickly
Batman Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 Now French television is announcing Emery has been chosen by PSG and is in contract talks. This one could be resolved very quickly Ah well. Next
Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 French TV channel iTelé are reporting that Emery will be the new PSG manager after having talks with the club's board.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 French TV channel iTelé are reporting that Unai Emery will be the new PSG manager after having talks with the club's board. EDIT: Beaten to it but there's the channel's name.
Saint Charlie Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 De Boer or Howe for me. Or someone left field that hasn't been mentioned. Not now, but Mark Warburton will start getting linked with PL jobs if he does well next season.
CB Fry Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 No Emery. Board must go. What a Di ck. Emery will regret this decision.
SuperSAINT Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 French TV channel iTelé are reporting that Emery will be the new PSG manager after having talks with the club's board. See, he was easily the best option - he's been taken before we even got him
stevy777_x Posted 6 June, 2016 Posted 6 June, 2016 French TV channel iTelé are reporting that Unai Emery will be the new PSG manager after having talks with the club's board. EDIT: Beaten to it but there's the channel's name. I had the advantage of being in front of Itele when they announced it ;-)
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