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Who should replace Ronald Koeman?  

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  1. 1. Who should replace Ronald Koeman?


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Saint Charlie

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Howe is an intriguing one. He has done really well with Bournemouth but wasn't successful at Burnley. He has no real experience of dealing with Intl (and some big name) players and his backroom team is quite weak (can't imagine Reed being overly keen on us bringing Jason Tindall in). Also feel he may find it hard to replace the charisma of Koeman, especially at first.

 

That said, his temperament, commitment to passing football and age/profile as a coach is quite a good fit for Saints.

 

I think it might be a little too soon for him and he may feel he has a bit more to get out of Bournemouth before thinking what to do next.

 

Also he is so connected to the Club emotionally over a long timeperiod and he may feel it would ruin his legacy to leave for what they perceive as a local rival.

 

Interested to see howe this develops.

Saint-Armstrong

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Emery held talks with Everton and West Ham recently and is widely-reported as wanting to come to the Prem. Neither of those two could offer guaranteed European football, let alone Europa League group stages with a club with three seasons of top eight finishes.

 

This would be a good chance for him to come into a club that isn't in turmoil, has everything ready to go and European football on offer, and show the 'elite' of the Premier League what he can do, and that he is adaptable to the English game, at close quarters.

 

If The Telegraph are to believed then Emery has been interested before and holds an interest, so let's see what happens.

Ex Lion Tamer

Ex Lion Tamer

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Emery AVB Moyes Howe... It was so funny to see some down-market nationals link us with Martinez! If Pearson hadn't gone to Derby, no doubt he'd have been touted too. :lol:

Shame no De Boer

 

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Bobbyboy

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Its worth noting that The Seville chairman has been quoted saying that Emery has told him he's happy and not in the market for a new job. Of course we've heard that before but feel inclined to believe it.

Sounds like a typical Les Reed soundbite to me. Time to bet the farm on it.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Emery held talks with Everton and West Ham recently and is widely-reported as wanting to come to the Prem. Neither of those two could offer guaranteed European football, let alone Europa League group stages with a club with three seasons of top eight finishes.

 

This would be a good chance for him to come into a club that isn't in turmoil, has everything ready to go and European football on offer, and show the 'elite' of the Premier League what he can do, and that he is adaptable to the English game, at close quarters.

 

If The Telegraph are to believed then Emery has been interested before and holds an interest, so let's see what happens.

Makes perfect sense - I do find it odd that a Manager with the recent success he has had in European competition and also relatively in La Liga would consider any of us, Everton and West Ham as a step up (or even a sideways move). Would seem a backward step to me aside from the idea of proving himself in the PL - and that didnt stop the likes of Mourinho, Pellegrini, Ancelotti, Mancini etc from getting top PL jobs in the past here.

buctootim

buctootim

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Howe is an intriguing one. He has done really well with Bournemouth but wasn't successful at Burnley. He has no real experience of dealing with Intl (and some big name) players and his backroom team is quite weak (can't imagine Reed being overly keen on us bringing Jason Tindall in). Also feel he may find it hard to replace the charisma of Koeman, especially at first.

 

That said, his temperament, commitment to passing football and age/profile as a coach is quite a good fit for Saints.

 

I think it might be a little too soon for him and he may feel he has a bit more to get out of Bournemouth before thinking what to do next.

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I think Howe might be the better manager but Koeman has the kudos. You cant under estimate how much being a Barcelona and Dutch legend helps in getting players to buy into your methods even if they arent technically the best.

Bewildered

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Makes perfect sense - I do find it odd that a Manager with the recent success he has had in European competition and also relatively in La Liga would consider any of us, Everton and West Ham as a step up (or even a sideways move). Would seem a backward step to me aside from the idea of proving himself in the PL - and that didnt stop the likes of Mourinho, Pellegrini, Ancelotti, Mancini etc from getting top PL jobs in the past here.

 

To be fair, most of the names you mention had either a CL victory, a league title in a major league or both to their name when they were hired by PL sides.

 

Mourinho - Won Champions League in consecutive seasons with Porto

Ancelotti - Won Serie A, 2 Champions League trophies with AC Milan

Mancini - Serie A winner 3 times

 

Pellegrini is the exception, but even then he had a spell as Real Madrid manager under his belt and reached the Quarter finals of the Champions League with Malaga, which is further than Emery has taken either Valencia or Sevilla.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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I think Howe might be the better manager but Koeman has the kudos. You cant under estimate how much being a Barcelona and Dutch legend helps in getting players to buy into your methods even if they arent technically the best.

At this stage Koeman is on a different level to Howe as a Manager.

 

Howe has potential but would be a risk, even more so if the squad were to be at all unsettled over the summer.

BlakeySFC

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God I hope we don't get Howe, he's got a lot of potential as a manager, but I don't think he's anywhere near proven at this level yet.

 

He took Bournemouth up, and kept them there, so he's done a good job, but I'll be interested to see how Bournemouth get on next season and if they do well take a punt on him after that, he failed at Burnley and has a special relationship with Bournemouth, so I really don't think he'll be any good for us.

 

I'd bite your hand off for Pellegrini or Emery personally.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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To be fair, most of the names you mention had either a CL victory, a league title in a major league or both to their name when they were hired by PL sides.

 

Mourinho - Won Champions League in consecutive seasons with Porto

Ancelotti - Won Serie A, 2 Champions League trophies with AC Milan

Mancini - Serie A winner 3 times

 

Pellegrini is the exception, but even then he had a spell as Real Madrid manager under his belt and reached the Quarter finals of the Champions League with Malaga, which is further than Emery has taken either Valencia or Sevilla.

All true, they were more established.

 

Just seems a bit odd that 3 x Europa League wins wouldn't get you a better job than Southampton.

 

Is the PL that much of a draw that he would give up CL football for a team that probably has reached their glass ceiling and just lost their Manager to a team who finished with about 15 fewer points the year before?

 

Saints is a good job, but is it *that* good?

Whitey Grandad

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All true, they were more established.

 

Just seems a bit odd that 3 x Europa League wins wouldn't get you a better job than Southampton.

 

Is the PL that much of a draw that he would give up CL football for a team that probably has reached their glass ceiling and just lost their Manager to a team who finished with about 15 fewer points the year before?

 

Saints is a good job, but is it *that* good?

 

Do we know what his salary is at present?

Chalkboy

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All true, they were more established.

 

Just seems a bit odd that 3 x Europa League wins wouldn't get you a better job than Southampton.

 

Is the PL that much of a draw that he would give up CL football for a team that probably has reached their glass ceiling and just lost their Manager to a team who finished with about 15 fewer points the year before?

 

Saints is a good job, but is it *that* good?

 

We're a high class shop window with some very rich customers. We're also very easy to walk away from.

GarrettIvo

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All true, they were more established.

 

Just seems a bit odd that 3 x Europa League wins wouldn't get you a better job than Southampton.

 

Is the PL that much of a draw that he would give up CL football for a team that probably has reached their glass ceiling and just lost their Manager to a team who finished with about 15 fewer points the year before?

 

Saints is a good job, but is it *that* good?

 

I would have thought it's going to be the best job going in England right now surely?

Shance

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Great so that leaves us Howe or Moyes if Guan is to be believed (as AVB has already ruled out a return to the PL)

 

That was just my opinion btw. Lol

Bailey

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Out of the names Guan mentioned, Emery would give us the best possible chance of taking us to the next level. Would he want to come here, though...?

 

Howe, while a very good manager, isn't the 'name' we need to settle and appease the players, and AVB is a risk too given how his stints went at Chelsea and Spurs.

 

I like Moyes, but he's the wrong fit for us at this time. Would be viewed by many as a step backwards and I'd be inclined to agree.

Bailey

Bailey

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If (and its a big if) we were to get Emery, there's a couple of decent Sevilla players I'd like him to bring with him!

 

Agreed - including a very good Wanyama replacement...!

OldNick

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How have Sevilla fared in the Spanish leagues in the tenure of Emery? I know he has done well in Europe but surely his league record is more important

Saints foreva

Saints foreva

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How have Sevilla fared in the Spanish leagues in the tenure of Emery? I know he has done well in Europe but surely his league record is more important

 

7th, 5th and 5th.

 

They also finished 9th under him but he was appointed half way through the season.

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OldNick

OldNick

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7th, 5th and 5th.

 

They also finished 9th under him but he was appointed half way through the season.

Thanks, not world eating stats, considering that it is said that the Spanish league is not as competitive as our own

BILLY

BILLY

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We're a high class shop window with some very rich customers. We're also very easy to walk away from.

 

That's one way of selling the job!

david in sweden

david in sweden

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I'd love to see Pellegrini. He wants to stay in the league right? Where else is there?

 

Me too, adrian....... Eddie Howe is a nice guy, BUT ....after only one season in the bottom end of the Prem. :scared:

 

(Nigel Adkins was sacked and was better than that .....).

Pilchards

Pilchards

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Who do you think the players would prefer?

Me personally Eddie Howe as I've heard he is a players manager and gets on with everyone.

 

This Emery fella could be interesting but you would expect some will not to see eye to eye with him.

Would that be part of Les Reed's decision as we need a happy camp plus continuity for the future generation of players.

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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Thanks, not world eating stats, considering that it is said that the Spanish league is not as competitive as our own

 

Yeah but you have to remember it's at a club who sell on talent to keep the club books balanced and those three positions where achieved while winning the Europa league.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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7th, 5th and 5th.

 

Thanks, not world eating stats, considering that it is said that the Spanish league is not as competitive as our own

 

He had to juggle his squad with the Europa League winning campaigns in all three of those seasons. They also had long runs in the Spanish cups.

Pengi

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Why is Moyes being suggested? People saying Howe needs experience but where would he get it - he could go to another club and be a success and then we regret not appointing him - a gamble worth taking?

Nolan

Nolan

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Why is Moyes being suggested? People saying Howe needs experience but where would he get it - he could go to another club and be a success and then we regret not appointing him - a gamble worth taking?

As a diversion tactic hopefully.

fez

fez

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Whoever we get, let's give him a five-year contract, so that we're not in the same position in two years time with (say) Eddie if he's doing well as we are with Ron now. If it doesn't work out, we'll just have to pay him more compensation to get rid.

CB Fry

CB Fry

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Whoever we get, let's give him a five-year contract, so that we're not in the same position in two years time with (say) Eddie if he's doing well as we are with Ron now. If it doesn't work out, we'll just have to pay him more compensation to get rid.

Pointless. What if Emery will sign for 3 years for us but not 5?

 

I know what I'd take.

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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With Reed dishing out long term contracts to players I doubt he is thinking of a short term manager anymore.

 

Why? since the takeover none of our managers have gone past 2 full seasons and it's done us no harm. Managers have short shelf lives in general if they don't get poached they'll end up sacked.

fez

fez

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Pointless. What if Emery will sign for 3 years for us but not 5?

 

I know what I'd take.

 

Agreed. But try hard for 5, if that's not acceptable go for 3.

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