jamesfp1 Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 Marginally better once the creative players came on. So they probably won't play in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 I'd start Lallana next Saturday without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 Renato Sanchez looks one hell of a player. Kyle walker motm - well done glen you ****ing tard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 Yayyyy ....another England win!!! Wallpaper. Paste. Cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 Impossible to read anything into that really, awful game. Fonte played well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 Salvaged a win once Neville told him what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 One principle that should be adhered to is moving the ball quickly and effectively, forward when possible, when the opposition is down to ten. Space will open up somewhere. Instead we get that. I bet he mentions "we were working towards a clean sheet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 That was truly fekin awful. How typical that as a squad we are a really exciting prospect but unfortinately we have a clueless pensioner for a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 We need the wider players but it involves ballsy decisions no England manager ever seems prepared to take. Putting the TEAM first. For me, who could be better to come off the bench if we need a goal than Vardy? Fast form striker against tired defences. Kane alone, Alli off him and two wide players. The natural wide players will be inconsistent by nature, same as tadic and mane for us but it's so much better. Sterling and lallana can do it, I wish Walcott and Chamberlain or even Townsend were there. Even milner wide right is more comfortable. So frustrating seeing Kane and Vardy wasted in stupid roles to accommodate rooney, Alli shoved out of position. My spurs supporting friend loves Alli but said if he's not playing in the no 10 role he shouldn't even be in the spurs team. Most of all though, why are we still so clueless about the team a week before the tournament? Just like last time. How many **** easy qualifiers and friendlies have there been in the last 2 years?! We win every qualifier without much semblance of team and we're still fcking around with it. Still massive debate and confusion over formation, holding midfielders, wide players, strikers, where to fit in Rooney, if Vardy can play wide. Utter madness. I've always thought England would do better if they had far fewer options. You look at teams that do and they have to focus on formations and tactics that get the best out of what they've got, then they get used to it and know their team. Good analysis. Roy just can't beat to leave certain players out. The best player for each position, even if the best players in the squad have to be left out. I'm old enough to remember England winning in 66 with Alf Ramsey having the courage not to play Jimmy Greaves, easily our best striker, because Peters and Hurst were a better combination. And there were no subs then! Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 Sums up watching England these days for me in that l was more interested in how Jose was playing than how England were playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 We need the wider players but it involves ballsy decisions no England manager ever seems prepared to take. Putting the TEAM first. For me, who could be better to come off the bench if we need a goal than Vardy? Fast form striker against tired defences. Kane alone, Alli off him and two wide players. The natural wide players will be inconsistent by nature, same as tadic and mane for us but it's so much better. Sterling and lallana can do it, I wish Walcott and Chamberlain or even Townsend were there. Even milner wide right is more comfortable. So frustrating seeing Kane and Vardy wasted in stupid roles to accommodate rooney, Alli shoved out of position. My spurs supporting friend loves Alli but said if he's not playing in the no 10 role he shouldn't even be in the spurs team. Most of all though, why are we still so clueless about the team a week before the tournament? Just like last time. How many **** easy qualifiers and friendlies have there been in the last 2 years?! We win every qualifier without much semblance of team and we're still fcking around with it. Still massive debate and confusion over formation, holding midfielders, wide players, strikers, where to fit in Rooney, if Vardy can play wide. Utter madness. I've always thought England would do better if they had far fewer options. You look at teams that do and they have to focus on formations and tactics that get the best out of what they've got, then they get used to it and know their team. Completely agree. Surely these games should be for getting the first XI used to playing with each other and the system, swapping the occasional player. Crazy we're still no nearer knowing who starts and what system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 So what's that, 11 wins in a row? Happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 2 June, 2016 Share Posted 2 June, 2016 We will win 1-0 and old owl-face will just talk jibberish Having just seen the interview with Hodgson - can I have the lottery numbers please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1885 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Sums up the problem over the years, focused on results that don't actually matter! We should always qualify, and it's become easier than ever. The time between tournaments should be building a coherent team comfortable playing together in natural positions, developing understanding and team spirit. Instead, we've had an ego trip for Hodgson in winning all the games with little regard for performance and forming a team. Perhaps some disagree, but for me in international football the only thing that actually matters is how you perform in tournaments. Unless you can come away from them thinking 'we did the best with our pool of talent and can come away proud', then you have to look at the manager's performance. That's not about how far you get, in cup football there's always luck involved, and it's not about high expectations. It's just something England managers have failed with time and again. It doesn't help that recruitment has been appalling. Two foreign managers they picked two with no experience of our league and little grasp of our language. You couldn't make it up. Then we have idiots like McClaren and FA yes men like Hodgson. He's just a more boring and less dodgy Redknapp. Germany always look bad in preparation and test matches (just lost 1-3 to Slovakia) and end up in the semi's at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Tournament starts next week and Roy still doesn't know his best team or formation. you sound surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 you sound surprised I'm definitely not surprised. Any passion I once had for the national team is dead. I used to leap out of my chair, scream, shout, feel sick with nerves etc But since the World Cup and Hodgson's continued management I watch matches devoid of any positive emotion. The entire Euro qualifiers I didn't once feel pleased that we won. Maybe I need a therapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 How anyone thinks England are going to get even to the quarter finals is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 England are boring to watch and that is their biggest 'crime'. Football should entertain - when it doesn't, there is no point watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 We need the wider players but it involves ballsy decisions no England manager ever seems prepared to take. Putting the TEAM first. For me, who could be better to come off the bench if we need a goal than Vardy? Fast form striker against tired defences. Kane alone, Alli off him and two wide players. The natural wide players will be inconsistent by nature, same as tadic and mane for us but it's so much better. Sterling and lallana can do it, I wish Walcott and Chamberlain or even Townsend were there. Even milner wide right is more comfortable. So frustrating seeing Kane and Vardy wasted in stupid roles to accommodate rooney, Alli shoved out of position. My spurs supporting friend loves Alli but said if he's not playing in the no 10 role he shouldn't even be in the spurs team. Most of all though, why are we still so clueless about the team a week before the tournament? Just like last time. How many **** easy qualifiers and friendlies have there been in the last 2 years?! We win every qualifier without much semblance of team and we're still fcking around with it. Still massive debate and confusion over formation, holding midfielders, wide players, strikers, where to fit in Rooney, if Vardy can play wide. Utter madness. I've always thought England would do better if they had far fewer options. You look at teams that do and they have to focus on formations and tactics that get the best out of what they've got, then they get used to it and know their team. This. But I for one think we need Rooney. After, if we need a striker, he can play there. If we are lacking a No 10,he can play there, if we need wide men, he can play there, if we need a wing back, he can play there, if we need a centreback, he can play there, if we need a goalie, he can play there, if we need an assistant manager, he can play there, if we need a waterboy, he can play there. Roy has no idea, no passion, and just wants a team he can put Rooney in. It wouldn't suprise me if he gets his team sheet out and Gary Neville and Ray Lewington have to quickly start tipp-exing out names to remind Roy that Gerrard, beckham et al are all retired and he is just left with a sheet with Rooney, Milner and Hart on it and they get him to fill in the blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 (edited) Hodgson is clueless, it was clear from the World Cup. He has no tactical ideas, he puts players in according to which club they play for and how much the media bigs them up. He has no idea how to build a team from the back and play a match on the front or back foot. His idea of formation selection is to pick a system and force it to work no matter the opposition, the flow of the match or who is suited to the system. To top it off he is embarrassingly arrogant, has little sense of how he comes across and fails to inspire any confidence in his media interviews. All he has done since being appointed is blame other circumstances rather than work out how to use what he has got. 'We don't have any strikers in England, not enough good attacking players' was what he blamed for World Cup two years ago... 'We don' t have the defensive players', is this tournaments excuse... 2 years difference and us now having one of the best attacks on paper in Europe suggests to me the talent is there but Roy has been paid a lot of money to travel around picking his England team and has completely failed to find anyone until their put right in front of his nose. Edited 3 June, 2016 by Mallagroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 ....but on the plus side, at least we are entering the competition knowing that we aren't going to do well. Too many times, in the past, have we gone to these tournaments thinking that we have a chance of winning it. Having said that, some in the media are beginning to talk about a young, exciting English team - soon it will be a team capable of winning everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The tactics were truly awful. Why the f*ck is Kane taking corners? There is a chance that our manager is clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The tactics were truly awful. Why the f*ck is Kane taking corners? There is a chance that our manager is clueless. you think lol he got a free pass 4 years ago but the world cup was a disgrace. He thought we played well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I still think it's incredibly hard to read much into last night, it was a weird game. But we do seem to still be shoehorning players into positions they don't play for their clubs, as per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I'm definitely not surprised. Any passion I once had for the national team is dead. I used to leap out of my chair, scream, shout, feel sick with nerves etc But since the World Cup and Hodgson's continued management I watch matches devoid of any positive emotion. The entire Euro qualifiers I didn't once feel pleased that we won. Maybe I need a therapist. You're not alone mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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